You can use 10w40, 15w40, 20w40, 10w50, 15w50, 20w50 JASO MA,MA1,MA2 approved oils in Fazer.
Mobil Delvac I am talking about is basically a diesel engine oil.. extensively used all around the world in wet clutch motorcycles (like ours)

Classified the best petroleum oil (read mineral oil) for wet clutch motorcycles according to this site - Motorcycle Oil and Filters

Losing front tyre's air within a week...no puncture. What all problems and possible solutions? Micro leak? Checked by putting tyre in water too! Plz help!

To start with the FZ ownership thread... let me say i dont own a FZ but i like the bike very much except for the fact that its a 4 stroke. i like the old 2ts..the bygone era bikes and i own a RX135. though i like bikes very much i became a bike owner very late.
So lets come to the point, this is the first time i am reading a complete ownership about a bike.. after reading it i feel like the FZ is full of complaints... or are all the ownership threads like this?
My RX135 was in a pretty bad condition (really)when i bought it, but never ever it let me down, though the engine and clutch was so bad.. i never had a roadside breakdown especially when i think of its condition.
but reading the ownership thread of FZ i think its full of complaints especially people complain a lot about a newly bought bike. Or is it like i am so ignorant about bikes??
reading through the thread i came to a conclusion, (for the past 3 months i have been following this thread) guys like mad mike, lucky luke and shv18 3 guys i really admire, you guys are doing a hell lot of a job in this thread EN LIGHTING people and i find most people out here who are ignorant (including me) just creating hypes against them.(only a person who is continually reading the thread can understand this)
Hats Off to you mad mike , lucky luke, shiv18..
One question i would like to ask to them is whether they will do the same to a teacher who teaches them in a class??? i am sure they wont, they are taking things for granted, thats what i feel after reading through this whole thread.(no offence to any one)
Now my personal questions though its a bike forum i am comparing a bike to a car. my friend has a VolksWagen Vento. the first oil change for it is at 15000kms. why is it so? does it have a running in period.. he says no!!
and the only thing he does is a periodic service and i have never seen him doing anything other than that, its like just plug and play.. buy it ....service it and drive it.. thats all... no pampering nothing and it just runs great.
A bike when comparing to the moving parts and other complex things like power window , power steering of car should give very less problems right??
So where is the difference??
Experts Mad Mike, Lucky Luke, Shv18 please pitch in to answer my queries. help greatly appreciated!!

First of all thank you for your kind words.. but believe me i am no expert .. there are other senior riders like PSR Ji, Abhimanyu31 and a lot of others from whom we have all learnt a about motorcycling and trouble shooting.

If you have just concluded by reading this thread that Yamaha FZ/Fazer is a bike full of problems then mate you have got it all wrong. An ownership thread is a place meant for people to come up with their respective issues and others to help and identify it and solve it for them. One cannot simply conclude that just because there are so many common issues discussed, the product is not good. But one should rather understand that the ownership thread is the place where people share experiences and advices which helps us all understand the bike, troubleshoot common minute niggles and in the process how do we all educate each other to become better trouble shooters ourselves and in general become a more educated rider right from understanding the mechanical aspect and also the safety part of it.

Coming to your question... if i have understood correctly.. a car does get its first service done at 1000 kms and post that based on the engine oil recommended the service intervals for the pump gas based motors is 15,000 kms. The nature of the engine is different.. the machinery and metals used in the engine is different, the power output and load carrying capacity and a lot of variables are different compared to a motorcycle engine.

A Yamaha FZ/Fazer is bike manufactured with price constraints where the manufacture has to provide a product in the market which is affordable, yet stylish and easier to maintain. Secondly, an FZ engine is air cooled and mostly yamaha recommends putting in mineral oil to keep the cost of ownership low for the general public. Thirdly, ask yourself this question, if Yamaha would have manufactured this same bike using exotic materials to increase the service interval to say 10,000 kms and better power output and charged you 1.6 lkhs INR would you have bought it? may be you would have but would the general public in India had bought it.. most likely not. India is a price sensitive market so Yamaha had to provide us everything within a price band acceptable by the general Indian public. As a result we have what we have on our table currently.

So for the price band have a superb chassis and loves to go around corners, the base engine is tuner friendly.. it does lack power at the top end but with the significant grunt in the low and mid end it compensates for city riding which almost accounts to 70-80% of our commuting.

BTW just so you know FZ/Fazer brought back yamaha from almost packing up their bags and leaving india for good. It is their highest selling product if i have got the nos. correct.. So definitely the Japs do know their market better.

Hope this clears your doubt.

PS: Always been a fanatic fan of the RX 100 and RD 350 30bhp model.


Cheers,

300V but which one? FS oil or SS oil?? If it is FS oil, then with double ester; it lasts around 5000 kms. to know more go to google type shv18+motul 300v+xbhp.. you will get the history of ownership report i have posted on this thread about 300V FS if conventional search seems to be a pain.

Cheers,

My brother has a Volks. Polo and first oil change is at 10,000 kms/ 1 yr.. these cars comes with Factory filled synthetic oils..

By the way what is your definition of bike with lots of problems?

I tell you what this forum does to guys looking to buy a bike -
I was searching for a bike and came across this thread. Read each and every post in the thread. Left reading for sometime and then again read most of the pages again and again.. making a point in my diary. There were posts like the tyres are puncturing a lot etc etc.. But there were also posts from owners that they dont have any problem.
After going through the forum I was so confident about the bike that booked the bike without even a test ride! I was so confident about the performance of the bike that from 2nd service didnt go for even free services (the reason was poor SVC, no oil filter available, yamalube oil was freaking rough etc etc.) But it takes guts to let the warranty go from 3rd month of ownership. At that time (Feb-March2011) I was very thankful to ppl like Nand15 for typing their experiences here. It gave me confidence to take the bike.
Now I will discuss hypes against them!! - I dont know what you mean by that. I dont think anyone has said anything against shv18 anytime.
There is a constant effort from ppl who want to give back the help they have got to other new users. I have noted it n number of times that there are queries from new users pending for a day or two and when ppl like Jonahmano tries to answere them.. he is being pounced upon. Though I agree that wrong information should not be given but everyone is giving away information in good faith!
Some ppl may know a lot.. but that a lot comes out when you want to prove other wrong. Go back in time.. its all documented.. how many times senior members (except Shv18) tries to answer basic questions!
I would appreciate replies to questions, rather than replies to replies to a question!
You (rxdude) have become a member from May 12 (5 months). How many times have you helped other forum members in some very very small requests?? You have been reading around and then one fine day you come up with this idea of appreciating some members.. you try solving some minor issues of fellow YAMAHA owners and the moment you go away from the book, there is an army just waiting to pounce upon you!!
Looking forward to seeing you helping some users...

Nothing more, I just fell in love again with XBHP, words of these people are simply mesmerizing.
Proud to be a part & member of this community

Here comes my Black Stallion

Thank you... I'll definitely take very good care of her. ..Will be posting pictures shortly.

have you removed the rear mudguard or its coming like this in chennai...??? I mean FZ-2012 is coming with long rear fender i guess...

Pics of my new bike

Pics of my new bike-

Yes of course they come with looooonnnngggg rear fender and saree guard, i removed them immediately after the Registration.
Reason being, it gives my stallion The Sporty Look and reason for the saree guard is i dont have a Girl friend

Wowwww, the Night Fury.... awesome pic(k)....

Thanks man, I also bought FZ-16 after going through the ownership experiences here and I also didn't do any test ride and If I had done surely I'd wouldn't bought it and having said that I'm only disappointed in pickup department which I will be fixing in few counting days and rest all I'm very much satisfied with my bike.

I have seen senior guys like you and Shv here were very much noobs (just turn back the pages), I have seen people even worse than me but they have reached to a place where people marvel at and it's all because of their humility and hardwork. It is all about learning and teaching and it has to be done with humility, generosity and freewill.

Hope this forum will be all about bikes and not persons and all about learning and teaching and not criticizing.

Mate aren't you going away from the recommended specifications by the manufacturer?? Do report your ownership experience post 5000 kms. 2000 kms is not exactly the benchmark to use this oil; just my personal opinion. Sounds more like the GT oil & Nulon additives phenomenon if you know what i am saying...

Cheers,

Yes and No..
Yes, The oil is API SJ rated.. and manual recommends API SG or higher. It meets this standard as SJ is higher spec oil than SG. (API ratings increase alphabetically)
No, as manual also specifies JASO MA.. which this oil does not meet.
If you are using any oil.. even Motul 15w50 300v racing oil and your clutch starts slipping, just avoid them. Same here.. this oil can be used in gasoline engine and does not lead to clutch slippage(ppl are using it extensively on wet clutch bikes in the west).

Have waited 1100 kms / 2 months before recommending to FZ owners as I was myself worried about clutch slippage. But there is none (atleast in our 153 cc bikes)
My usage is low.. will consume another six months to give you 5000 km update. (2500km on this oil + 2500km on new oil)