according to honda seil cars
honda city gets a facelift every year and a whole new version of honda city is introduced after every three years.
it will be five years to uni in september 2009 , and there is'nt any complete makeover of the unicorn till date . To some people(including me) , 1st gen uni looks better then latest uni if we exclude the alloys . Performancewise as well not much difference. The moral of the story being : Revamped unicorn soon . . ...

Proof/Any Link ??

Agree with you. Honda does lots of R&D before bringing out a bike and so they last longer. You can consider the ZMA too.

As per the Regional Officer, Bangalore the next new bike of HMSI will be a 100cc machine. So i don't have any hopes that HMSI will bring in revamped Unicorn.
Anyways... Fingers Crossed as you guys are expecting...
So am I...

hey guys i serviced my uni last week, it was d 5th service n has run for 8k miles.
so i tot of usin synthetic oil dis time, i told my mech to put motul 300v 5w40 as 15w40 is not available in motul, even he preferred motul over castrol power 1. but finally he ended up puttin motul 5100 wid out my notice, later he told 15w40 is not available in motul . but d grade he used was 15 w 50! my frnd owns a p200 n 15w50 is used mostly for pulsars n cc's above 150. 5100 jus costs rs 395
where as 300v xw40 costs rs 780. inspite of tellin him to put oil which has grade xw40 ne has put xw50! wen i took it for test drive it seemed smooth n gear shifting was also lot smoother than before, i rode for abt 200 kms n now d engine sound has changed its not so smooth, doesnt rev easily. it no longer feels like synth oil. dunno wat to do, can any one suggest me a remedy?

50 grade oil is a strict no-no for the unicorn.I had,at one time used 300v 15w50 worth 795 rs,but had to drain it of after 100km of running because of the above said reasons.Now,i use that oil to lube my chain.I suggest you drain it of and use a a 40 grade oil.
BTW 5100 is semi synthetic hence 395rs

Are there not any wing riders to answer my questions?

I also experimented with valvoline premium 4t i.e. 20w50 on my unicorn .Due to my ripping kind of riding style ,i am using this oil and i don't have any smothness problem with the oil (actually vibes are less but hard revs and more noisey but smooth as less vibes are there). Am still running this oil quite successfully .You can try warming up your engine before you roll it out .Warm up instructions :
1.Pull the choke full on.
2.start the bike (kick start preffered)
3.notice the rpm(generally 3500 rpm)
4.Leave it like this to gain 1000+ rpm (i.e. 4500 rpm)
now just take it to the ride straightaway(putting choke back off)
The engine would still rev hard but will be smooth and powerful.
do tell me if that makes a difference ?

oh shit , i'l go n blast my mech. i knew it wud be a prob if i use 50 grade oil. any ways thanks dude n ya even i'l use dat oil to lubricate my chain!!! which synth oil is best for uni? castrol or motul?

in d beginning i tot as m using an oil of higher grade it'l take some time to reach d required viscosity for smooth running, but even after riding for abt 10 kms d noise doesn go n it wont rev so easily, m gettin vibrations above 5000rpm, doesn even sound like an unicorn. but d top end has increased marginally, pick up was better initially but after two weeks of ridin in dat oil my bike feels very sluggish, it acts as though m pushin my bike very hard for a
trip. in cold conditions bike doesn start easily, dis all started after using dat oil, so m gonna change it to 40 grade oil. anyways thanks for d reply , might be valvoline oil is of better quality which ur usin!!!

Am using petronas sprinta 5000 full synthetic,better than castrol but wont match motul's performance

See, its like this. The grade of the oil does not indicate the quality. It refers to the viscosity that it attains at 100 degrees. In low revving engines, like in the Unicorn, the engine runs at lower temperature, therefore, a xW40 will attain the required viscosity within that temperature range. High revving engines like those of Pulsars reach much higher temperatures. Therefore, the oil must be able to retain its viscosity at those higher temperatures. In those engines, you need to use xW50 grade oils.

By using incorrect grade oils, like using a lower grade oil in a higher revving engine (the oil will be too runny to maintain the necessary lubrication inside the engine due to the high engine temperature), or a higher grade oil in a lower revving engine (the oil will not reach the necessary viscosity due to the low temperature of the engine and the oil will remain too hard and will cause the sluggish performance), the oils will be off its specific viscosity range and will definitely lead to faster engine wear and tear. The engine will run best and at optimum performance only will the correct engine oil.

I hope I have explained it clearly enough on the importance of the grade of oil to be used. Personally, I have tried Castrol, Veedol Swift and Motul and have found Motul mineral oil to be the best among all.

Prajwal

Well explained..

The oils i have used in past are
Motul Mineral oil 20w40
Was better than stock

Castrol Power 1 (NO GRADE OIL)
Was good till the engine heats up later no words.. Gears were getting hard, noise from engine...

Castrol Power 1 Racing 10w40
Was pretty good.. Had a wonderful experience...

Petronas Sprinta 5000 10w40 (currently using and done less than 100kms so no comments)

Never tried Motul synthetic till date.

Well then i have a doubt here guyz
If i rev(rip) the bike at 8-9 k rpm for say 15-20 kms , the tank of my uni starts to vibrate considerably with the engine.
Is my bike a culprit here ?
This will not happen till 500-800 kms of riding after changing to a new oil .Soon when i have done nearby 1000 kms on the new oil , and try ripping the bike further , the bike becomes sluggish, rough ,vibrational etc.
The 20w40 grade oils gave me vibrations after ~1000 kms of ripping
both honda oil and valvoline champ 4t
But 20w50 never ever allowed my bike(or engine) to produce considerable vibrations.
I have done 1300 kms on this oil and it is still going good(if not very good).
However the bike is making a different noisey sound and revving harder ,but actual acceleration is equally good (neither too good and not at all bad)
i feel Xw45 would suit the unicorn better then both the above grades but it is not available/blended.
Or i need a full synthetic oil for extended drain intervals (atleast 2000 kms).
Will the synthetic oils be able to handle 2wice the ripping as mineral oils? (Due to their much more then double costs)

You need a bigger bike.... if u really need to get to ur destination that much faster, then get a P200 or a P220 or the new Karizma. They should suit ur style of riding better. The Unicorn is a smooth, lazy bike and is not designed for riders who need to get to their destination 5 mins quicker.

Prajwal

i do not rip my bike to get quicker to my destination
however due to ripping ,i do get a whole little quicker to my place.
Unicorn is sufficiently powerfull to burn the roads that i travel through usually.thx 4 the advice neways ! !
i repeat my question in a different way here now
should synthetic oil be any beneficial for me ,especially petronas sprinta 5000 4t , or i should continue changing the oil after evry 1000 km

hey prajwal thanks for ur explanation, i am a mech engg so i knew d theory behind dis n hence i suggested my mechanic to put 40 grade oil,but dat moron used 50 grade oil n told me to experience d ride wid dis oil, i tot he might be having more prctical knwledge rather dan jus knwin d theory.ultimately v xbhpians r correct n dat moron is wrong. m gonna change it to motul 300v in 2 days as many recommend it for better performance.