Re: Honda CBR 250R

Hi Raminder,

I have not had any engine work done by him, but have seen him working on CBRs. Though he is again an illiterate mechanic, but an experienced one and works better than others in Noida. In my case, I rarely visit ASCs and that too for spares only -- I prefer to work on my rides by myself. Malwa Honda in Okhla has also good reviews if you want to go there.

I listened those audio clips again. It felt more of slapping noise to me which I told you earlier. When main bearings go kaput or the big end bearing fails, the thud sound is kind of more sharp which I did not find in your audio clips; however, it does not warrant if that is the real case. The main cause of main bearing fail is scarcity of oil supply or no oil. I would suggest to start with head and block first before going ahead opening up the crankcase. If there is any visible fault (scored cylinder wall/piston/rings), would be dealt without opening up the engine. If some faults at crankshaft or con-rod big end, it definitely would need to be opened.

I am used to listen such slapping noises in my 2-strokes rides when bore clearance goes out of specs and it needs re-boring. I would also advise to consult a Honda Engineer and get the work done under his supervision.

Thank you,

Re: Honda CBR 250R

OK, I've changed that mileage sucking, fat ass castrol 15w40 to the boring old Honda 10w30 mineral. Since my usage is just high speed commuter, I suppose this goo should do the job for at least 2k kms. Gonna check mileage again tonight. Last night I got just 44, with the 15w40 SS.

Re: Honda CBR 250R

@sman999 : The front brakes are made by Bybre , and there is a pretty good chance that the same pads may be used for other bikes as well. Honda does charge a premium for its spares. Why shell out more ponies when you get the same stuff cheaper . That said , I am pretty satisfied with the CBR's brakes and with the NON ABS version you don't have many choices (as far as I know). I have read about members though upgrading the front brake pads of ABS version with EBC HH rated pads , If memory servers me well these riders sourced them from USA.

Any way I went ahead and got the Honda Genuine brake pads (RS 886 / ByBre make) as I could not wait

@ Deathwing : Will post a pic of the Brake Pad , probably we can compare them with other brakes pads of Pulsar series and might find a cheaper match (fingers crossed)

Disclaimer : I would request anyone changing cheaper brake pads to check for the ratting of the brakes pads. One may do this at his/her own risk

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Could you please tell me the way I can contact a Honda engineer? I think that's what I need now because I don't trust Honda ASCs anymore. So far I have visited 5-6 ASCs and all of them have their own recommendations- some think cylinder is faulty, some say engine head, some went further and blamed the Honda engineering as its an Aluminum engine so not reliable :P
I too think that it should be checked from head first as the sound is more from the Head and not the crank side and you are right, its a metal slapping noise. I'll talk to the mechanic and ask him to check the head first instead of replacing cylinder kit directly.
Thanks!

Re: Honda CBR 250R

You already know what's available. Btb if I'm not wrong(not sure though, remember reading some where) those sintered brake pads are available for non abs too in India with some dealer(pune I guess). Please Google for more details. It costs around 1800rs. Pulsars front brake pads dint fit the cbr. Since you don't wanna shell out more, the best bet is the Honda's brake pads for the front. Also rather than brake pads If you want more feedback you can upgrade to steel braided lines.

My policy is don't mess with anything until you have a real good reason to deal with that

Re: Honda CBR 250R

[MENTION=58594]leech[/MENTION]
By 44 you mean 44kmpl?
Isn't that great mileage figure. In my previous post, i said that i was confused between tnt25 nd cbr250. But as you said, the mileage is 44kmpl (i guess on highway) then i would definitely go for cbr.

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Benelli is a great bike too. Good sales, I've heard. In comparison, the CBR is an ageing, unexciting bike. But it does what its made for. And it will last longer than the KTMs and have cheaper spares than the Benelli.

OK, tonight's test results

- Full tank, tyre pressure at 40 psi front and back, running contigos.

-Vehicle was run at 70~76 kmph for 90% of the time. Bad roads, mild traffic, and 8 stops in the journey made the rest 10%.

- Fuel used HP ordinary, from reliable Bunk.

- Engine oil 10w30 Honda mineral.

Fuel economy : 327.2/7.1 litres.

Rider weight : 85kg

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[MENTION=58594]leech[/MENTION] , sir you have goy awesome figures in FE. 46kmpl is great one.
I agree, TNT25 looks awesome, but as you said, spares are costly. I will be buying around diwali, so i have ample amount of time to study both bikes and decide.
This forum have been very helpful and informative.
I would like to thank all the seniors for the same.

Re: Honda CBR 250R

I have a buddy called Subhash he is in OMR.


also search for Dhana stickers on facebook they both are good.

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Thats some big figures u got, both in fuel economy and the tyre pressure .

You must be having a good control over your wrist to keep the speeds around 75 :thumbup:

Coming to engine oil, are you sure you are using honda mineral oil?? Or you referring to Honda Throttle oil

Ram

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Re: Honda CBR 250R

[MENTION=5571]ram[/MENTION] - no, sir, I filled up with 10w30 mineral, that grey can. I couldn't find any other 10w30 oil on Sunday. Honda throttle I've used for 18k kms. Nothing special.

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This oil dillemma is really confusing... I used company oil for 3000-3500km n changed to motul semi synth oil for the next 3000-3500km for service at the centre.I just changed the oil like about 1000km back ,noticed a more smoothness , maybe cause I haven't redlined the bike since oil change, should try that once n see how the engine is.

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You will always notice more smoothness whenever you put in a new oil. For example, the castrol power 1 15w40 felt nice and smooth for the first 500 kms. After 4k kms, it felt like I was riding a tractor rather than a Honda. I ditched that oil when I found out it reduced mileage.

Now, this 10w30 mineral was used by the SVC in the initial days of CBR 250. By the time I bought the bike, Honda Throttle was recommended. Now the company recommends Honda Throttle for all Honda bikes.

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using 10w30 mineral was taking a toll on my engine..
at least i felt so when i hit highway for a 200 km ride.

reason for using that oil was stupid asc who were not having honda throttle at that time.

with a pillion anything above 120km/hr was giving me the feeling of riding something else..

after returning back from the trip i sourced Motul 7100 10w40 from lucknow and this was the first time i was going for something other than what svc used.

difference was immediate.. bike felt a lot more eager and slightly smoother.
also i noticed that engine was revving more freely.

although i was not happy by the clutch function. dont know if mechanic altered it or its the oil that isnt going well.

overall i can recommend that oil if you want something better than Honda throttle

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A couple of people claimed the pulsar rear brake pads lasted longer n provided a better bite apparently, I gotta try n see, n the pads cost 260rs compared to the 800 of Honda.