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  • Re: Honda CBR 250R

    Whole point of having a Honda is lost if we don't have the reliability. Forget long rides, I'm the type of guy who will get mighty pissed if the bike breaks down on the way to the park.

    And the whole p220 vs CBR and ninja vs CBR thing is good only if you're racing. I've had more respect on the road from a Busa rider than a r15. No point boasting that "my bike can beat yours" and "my bike is a lifestyle, heritage - and yours is just a copy" when ₹200 petrol can turn both bikes to scrap.
    [MENTION=25760]theironhorse[/MENTION]99 - yes, sir, for the 5th time I'm stating, I do run 10w30Honda mineral oil with Jaso MA specs, for the past 500kms. It is the grey can. I originally planned the HDEO treatment, but they didn't have the correct grade. Only 15w40. Which reduces mileage and top speed. Thus , I felt Honda mineral would be a better bet, because it cost the same as Shell Rimula , plus it was stock grade. And marked Jaso MA.

    Now, obviously, the new oil would feel butter smooth. Below 3k rpm I feel the engine is switched off. Real test comes after 2k kms.

    [MENTION=79821]Deathwing[/MENTION] - there's many straight stretches in Chennai where visibility is ~250 metres ahead, and there are no junctions or obstructions. However, TN has the highest number of road fatalities, so I guess its not that safe. Every year, some biker I know of dies in Chennai, be it ECR or city roads. In fact the first day I took this bike out on the highway, I saw a CBR which got into an accident. Apparently this poor CBR guy parked his ride side of the road, when some drunk guy on a TVS Star City/Victor rammed into his bike from behind and fell off on the road unconscious. Imagine the feels.
    Last edited by leech; 04-06-2016, 09:45 AM.

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    • Re: Honda CBR 250R

      Originally posted by Deathwing View Post
      @leech I'm curious which stretch do you gradually rev upto 9.5 rpm, that's the stock ecu detune in the 6th gear, Someone told me its detuned for better FE correct me if I'm wrong , and wat about piggyback ecu n customizable maps?
      I have gone through some of posts in earlier pages, all you keep whining about ecu remaps and piggypack and bazzaz and the bike not crossing the 9.5K rpm and several other rants about the detuning in the 6th gear. People have answered a lot that you need to stick to stock engine and the mods on this single pot are not worth the money spent especially when you compare bhp/reliability ratio

      First of all there is no valid proof about the detune as people have clocked 160 clicks an hour which means you are at 10K RPM, how can you say that the bike is detuned. The torque curve flattens out post 8K rpm so you will not have the pulling power and you will sure shot need a downslope and some tail wind to go past 10K rpm.

      NO offense, dude!!! but this is sort of not good to ask again and again and again the same question and criticize that the bike is detuned.

      Cheers,
      Sanjay
      http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/touring-queries-route-planning-itinerary/33587-endurance-ride.html

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        Originally posted by sanjaysangar1990 View Post
        I have gone through some of posts in earlier pages, all you keep whining about ecu remaps and piggypack and bazzaz and the bike not crossing the 9.5K rpm and several other rants about the detuning in the 6th gear. People have answered a lot that you need to stick to stock engine and the mods on this single pot are not worth the money spent especially when you compare bhp/reliability ratio

        First of all there is no valid proof about the detune as people have clocked 160 clicks an hour which means you are at 10K RPM, how can you say that the bike is detuned. The torque curve flattens out post 8K rpm so you will not have the pulling power and you will sure shot need a downslope and some tail wind to go past 10K rpm.

        NO offense, dude!!! but this is sort of not good to ask again and again and again the same question and criticize that the bike is detuned.

        Cheers,
        Sanjay
        Am not criticizing the bike, I'm saying its a fantastic engine with potential, I'm jus looking to unlock a bit of that potential without screwing up the engine, I do the occasional speed runs on the highway, in the cities I'm most between 30-60kmph, I do apologize for posting this but, it kinda keeps bugging me. I ran on a exhaust pipe which increased sound n torque but there was a drop in my HP ,coming to the Rev limiter, I am jus slightly baffled how I'm redlining at 5th gear but not 6th that's all.

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        • Re: Honda CBR 250R

          Originally posted by Deathwing View Post
          Am not criticizing the bike, I'm saying its a fantastic engine with potential, I'm jus looking to unlock a bit of that potential without screwing up the engine, I do the occasional speed runs on the highway, in the cities I'm most between 30-60kmph, I do apologize for posting this but, it kinda keeps bugging me. I ran on a exhaust pipe which increased sound n torque but there was a drop in my HP ,coming to the Rev limiter, I am jus slightly baffled how I'm redlining at 5th gear but not 6th that's all.
          to extract more hp and power, reliability is at stake and if you want to go beyond 10K, look for tailwind and downslope and I am sure you will definitely cross 10K.

          To extract 26HP with almost vibe free engine and a reliable package, I think Honda has done a commendable job. If more power could be extracted HONDA would have themselves done that in first place.

          If more power is the agenda, go for higher capacities.

          Cheers,
          Sanjay
          http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/touring-queries-route-planning-itinerary/33587-endurance-ride.html

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          • Re: Honda CBR 250R

            6th gear was intentionally kept long to enable stress free touring. If you want slightly more top speed/acceleration you can play around with the sprockets.
            Last edited by leech; 04-06-2016, 12:12 PM.

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            • Re: Honda CBR 250R

              Originally posted by sanjaysangar1990 View Post
              to extract more hp and power, reliability is at stake and if you want to go beyond 10K, look for tailwind and downslope and I am sure you will definitely cross 10K.

              To extract 26HP with almost vibe free engine and a reliable package, I think Honda has done a commendable job. If more power could be extracted HONDA would have themselves done that in first place.

              If more power is the agenda, go for higher capacities.

              Cheers,
              Sanjay
              Been told countless times that, when I can't afford a higher capacity bike why not slightly improve what u have ?

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              • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                If you can't afford a higher capacity bike, its a double foolishness to mod your existing one. Not only you lose the CBR, you also will be setback financially, when you have to buy a new bike due to reliability problems on the modded bike.
                Last edited by leech; 04-06-2016, 12:25 PM.

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                • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                  Perhaps the Honda HRC kit can be looked into. In Bangalore I heard the whole kit is around 5,00,000 INR if imported from Japan.

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                  • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                    I posted about brake pads before n a few ppl suggested rear pulsar 220 brake pads as a cheaper and more long lasting alternate, anyone can shed more light on this? Similarly someone said something about rs 200 front brake pads being a fit, the Honda brake pads cost about 800 whereas the pulsar 220 ones cost about 200-300 and have more bite n longer lasting?

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                    • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                      This is the third time you are posting a question and the replies to same question. What is the point of answering your queries if you don't read the replies?
                      Last edited by leech; 04-07-2016, 09:42 PM.

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                      • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                        Originally posted by leech View Post
                        This is the third time you are posting a question and the replies to same question. What is the point of answering your queries if you don't read the replies?
                        I'm asking cause someone mentioned before I jus had a doubt about the brake pads cause I'll be changing them soon , Honda brake pads cost 900 ,whereas p220 cost about 200-300 n someone said it offered better bite and lasted longer, I'm jus confirming that and another person said rs 200 front brake pads might be a fit, I'm jus reaffirming that's all and I was not sure how to search for older posts, got it only now...
                        Last edited by Deathwing; 04-07-2016, 10:19 PM.

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                        • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                          Originally posted by sanjaysangar1990 View Post
                          to extract more hp and power, reliability is at stake and if you want to go beyond 10K, look for tailwind and downslope and I am sure you will definitely cross 10K.

                          To extract 26HP with almost vibe free engine and a reliable package, I think Honda has done a commendable job. If more power could be extracted HONDA would have themselves done that in first place.

                          If more power is the agenda, go for higher capacities.

                          Cheers,
                          Sanjay
                          Honda has done that actually. It's the cbr300r, just a bigger version of 250r. 286cc- single cylinder- 30.4bhp. Just a few changes in the body work.

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                          • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                            Originally posted by Deathwing View Post
                            Am not criticizing the bike, I'm saying its a fantastic engine with potential, I'm jus looking to unlock a bit of that potential without screwing up the engine, I do the occasional speed runs on the highway, in the cities I'm most between 30-60kmph, I do apologize for posting this but, it kinda keeps bugging me. I ran on a exhaust pipe which increased sound n torque but there was a drop in my HP ,coming to the Rev limiter, I am jus slightly baffled how I'm redlining at 5th gear but not 6th that's all.
                            you are redlining at 5th due to shorter gear ratio hence building RPM's rapidly. 6th is taller gear for cruising and machine doe snot make ample power to get it to hit the rev limiter at 6th and to be honest. even many superbikes never hit the ECU limiter in top gear coz its designed that way. if its able to hit rev limiter in top gear then the whole ratio setup needs a rework else you are wasting precious power which can be used to hit few more KMPH rather than ECU cutting it off and hence the increased gear ratio.

                            also keep in mind the FE gains with a taller ratio and less need of gear shifts..
                            "A good long ride can clear your mind, restore your faith, and use up a lot of fuel."

                            RE Bullet 1977 - Current
                            RX-100 1995 - Current
                            CBZ Classic 2003 - Current
                            Activa 2004 - Current
                            CBR 250R 2012 - Current
                            Ninja 650 2013 - Current.

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                            • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                              Hi guys,

                              I had finished 6th paid service by wednesday, and must say that this is one of the most satisfied service that I have done so far.

                              I waited and got the bike back in 3 hrs and I could hang around when the work started on the bike initially. And the technician Rajesh answered many of my small questions with patience and smile without any hesitation.

                              I initially thought to change all fluids in the bike so expected a big bill, but he assured me that all are in good condition to be used further until next service. So the following are the works carried in my bike.

                              1. Chain and sprocket set change along with the rubber bush that sits between the rear sprocket rear wheel.
                              2. Changed the oil with shell ultra FS.
                              3. Changed the relay of fuel pump and radiator fan. These relay are located on right side of the bike and can be viewed with faring on. He said that these relay will not fail easily and if it does, it may be due to water entering inside. As these relay are located very close and they play very important role he will usually replace both even if any one fails for any odd reason..
                              4. Inspected and said all other fluids like brake, radiator coolent are intact and does not need replacement.
                              5. Have informed him about small works like the radiator is not seated properly in it's place and few bolts and clips are missing. And it was all done very quickly.
                              6. After all works are done he informed me that the side stand is little bent and as stock is not available he is unable to change it. When asked him about a DIY, he explained me the procedure to change the stand and added few points to make that a simple one.

                              Once these are done i had small general chat with him for few mins before paying the bill and left the ASC.

                              The total amount is around Rs. 2000. He was kind enough to replace the accelerator cables and clutch cable without any labour charge .

                              As the work was completed very sooner than expected, I returned home and thought to try out a task that I was intended to do for past 2 months.
                              As most of my parking(except for past 6 months in office and at times in home) will be under direct sunlight with very little protection from the heat and sun light. So the black color has became very dull. Brought this Wurth paint restoration cream from shell outlet.

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                              I worked on small areas and the outcome is much better than I expected. Although I do not have a exact before and after picture the following image shows how much it had made the difference.

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                              I still have some areas to work on. Once done i need to have a wax coating applied.

                              Can anyone suggest me a good hard wax from online where i can buy. I heard waxpol is good but the sample I found in this forum are atleast an year old. I need some pointers and links if possible.

                              Ram

                              Sent from my C1904 using xBhp Connect mobile app

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                              • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                                Originally posted by Iam_Hoodi_CBR View Post
                                Hi guys,

                                I had finished 6th paid service by wednesday, and must say that this is one of the most satisfied service that I have done so far.

                                I waited and got the bike back in 3 hrs and I could hang around when the work started on the bike initially. And the technician Rajesh answered many of my small questions with patience and smile without any hesitation.

                                I initially thought to change all fluids in the bike so expected a big bill, but he assured me that all are in good condition to be used further until next service. So the following are the works carried in

                                Ram

                                Sent from my C1904 using xBhp Connect mobile app
                                Sir, what is the cost of the relay? Is it user replaceable?

                                How much kms did your current chain and sprocket last?



                                I've changed my front tyre to same Contigo at 25000 kms
                                . Never had a problem with them, since I never corner at speed, nor will this bike ever see the inside of a track.
                                Last edited by leech; 04-08-2016, 03:07 PM.

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