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  • Re: Honda CBR 250R

    Originally posted by leech View Post
    What is the reason behind flooding of the engine?

    Yesterday I think my CBR 250 engine got flooded. I was joining the road, giving throttle to match traffic speed in my lane, when the engine shut off, as soon as I pressed the clutch when braking. I had to push the bike to the side of the road, since it wouldn't start back up. The starter motor just spun uselessly.

    After a couple of tries, I gave throttle while holding the starter, and slowly the engine came to life. After that, no further problems.

    engine was not flooded rather CBR is plagued with random shut down issues worldwide. while de-acceleration the ECU cuts/minimizes the fuel flow to extreme minimal to get more FE however sometimes when we press clutch in the same duration the ECU is not able to adjust with the revs falling rapidly and the engine dies.

    the only solution i have also found is the same to pull the accelerator and then hit the starter.
    it may also have to do with the air filter and mildly clogged injectors.
    use system-g and also keep a check on air filter.
    also if you are done 30k+ then time to check the spark plug too..

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    Originally posted by Jon Niranjan Paul View Post
    All my excitement is on the going to chennai part (since I'm from chennai, and head there every weekend to be with family and friends) coming back to bangalore, is mostly sedate/depressed ride, so there is not much opening the throttle.

    But as s1d suggested, there might be a difference due to the atmospheric pressure, as i experience severe power loss once i hit higher altitudes. I've used my Pulsar AS200 on the same route and found the same results. However on the CBR, once you pull out the terminals of the battery, put it back again and turn on the vehicle, the ecu seems to adjust itself accordingly, and there seems to be no more power loss...

    Will try to get a MAP and obd2 readout if someone can help me source one

    its more to do with the air pressure and cooler air. when you are hitting 80-90 kmph the momentum and inertia is enough for not to drop the FE down unless the incline is more.
    gaining 5000+ asl over 350+ km is negligible. had it been less than 100 km it would have made some difference.
    "A good long ride can clear your mind, restore your faith, and use up a lot of fuel."

    RE Bullet 1977 - Current
    RX-100 1995 - Current
    CBZ Classic 2003 - Current
    Activa 2004 - Current
    CBR 250R 2012 - Current
    Ninja 650 2013 - Current.

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    • Re: Honda CBR 250R

      Originally posted by theironhorse99 View Post
      engine was not flooded rather CBR is plagued with random shut down issues worldwide. while de-acceleration the ECU cuts/minimizes the fuel flow to extreme minimal to get more FE however sometimes when we press clutch in the same duration the ECU is not able to adjust with the revs falling rapidly and the engine dies.

      the only solution i have also found is the same to pull the accelerator and then hit the starter.
      it may also have to do with the air filter and mildly clogged injectors.
      use system-g and also keep a check on air filter.
      also if you are done 30k+ then time to check the spark plug too..

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      its more to do with the air pressure and cooler air. when you are hitting 80-90 kmph the momentum and inertia is enough for not to drop the FE down unless the incline is more.
      gaining 5000+ asl over 350+ km is negligible. had it been less than 100 km it would have made some difference.
      I had the same issue initially, I remember posting about it here too. But it has stopped for the past 4~5 months now. Never happened again.

      This is what I did. Changed the fuel to shell v-power for 5~6 tank fulls. Now use normal for past couple of months. The other thing I did change is the airfilter as you have rightly pointed but airfilter change happened much later. One of the advantages of vpower is that it cleans the injectors, so I guess that what did it for me.

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      • Re: Honda CBR 250R

        Originally posted by theironhorse99 View Post
        its more to do with the air pressure and cooler air. when you are hitting 80-90 kmph the momentum and inertia is enough for not to drop the FE down unless the incline is more.
        gaining 5000+ asl over 350+ km is negligible. had it been less than 100 km it would have made some difference.
        On the leg from Bangalore - Chennai, the bike returns around 35kmpl. This is doing speeds of 100+

        On the return leg, I'm in no hurry to get to bangalore and usually do a max of 95kmph, whereas the FE drops to 30. This is monitored not only in my CBR, but my AS200, a friend's KTM, and a diesel Swift as well. A drop of ~4kmpl is pretty substantial for a 5000+ asl incline spanning over 350kms... Btw, I didn't get your air pressure, cooler air point, can you elaborate a bit?

        EDIT: Just understood the air pressure point. Yep, was thinking along the same lines!
        Last edited by Jon Niranjan Paul; 09-30-2016, 11:09 PM.

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        • Re: The story so far.. My Honda CBR 250R

          Originally posted by jammbuster View Post
          What will be the second price lf std tri color cbr 250cc , year 2013, completed only 4500/- owner is asking for 1,09,000/-
          Moved to the general thread so that you get more responses.
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          • Re: Honda CBR 250R

            Originally posted by Jon Niranjan Paul View Post
            On the leg from Bangalore - Chennai, the bike returns around 35kmpl. This is doing speeds of 100+

            On the return leg, I'm in no hurry to get to bangalore and usually do a max of 95kmph, whereas the FE drops to 30. This is monitored not only in my CBR, but my AS200, a friend's KTM, and a diesel Swift as well. A drop of ~4kmpl is pretty substantial for a 5000+ asl incline spanning over 350kms... Btw, I didn't get your air pressure, cooler air point, can you elaborate a bit?

            EDIT: Just understood the air pressure point. Yep, was thinking along the same lines!

            i just meant to say air would be denser at sea level hence healthy amount of oxygen and engine would make power as expected with the change is air pressure ( thinner air as you increase the altitude) would also reduce the density of oxygen and the ECU will have to compensate for the same. this might be one of the reason of diffrent FE as i assume.
            "A good long ride can clear your mind, restore your faith, and use up a lot of fuel."

            RE Bullet 1977 - Current
            RX-100 1995 - Current
            CBZ Classic 2003 - Current
            Activa 2004 - Current
            CBR 250R 2012 - Current
            Ninja 650 2013 - Current.

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            • Re: The story so far.. My Honda CBR 250R

              Originally posted by jammbuster View Post
              What will be the second price lf std tri color cbr 250cc , year 2013, completed only 4500/- owner is asking for 1,09,000/-
              Assuming it hasn't had any accident damage/engine repairs and If every word of the above line is true, then that's a very fair price.

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              • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                The ironhorse99, this shut off was different, in that I was wasn't able to turn the bike on immediately. Other shut offs had the peculiar feature wherein the bike would start right back within a second of pressing the starter, albeit with unstable idle.

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                • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                  Originally posted by leech View Post
                  What is the reason behind flooding of the engine?

                  Yesterday I think my CBR 250 engine got flooded. I was joining the road, giving throttle to match traffic speed in my lane, when the engine shut off, as soon as I pressed the clutch when braking. I had to push the bike to the side of the road, since it wouldn't start back up. The starter motor just spun uselessly.

                  After a couple of tries, I gave throttle while holding the starter, and slowly the engine came to life. After that, no further problems.
                  I have faced this same situation once with my bike and it was scary as hell. I was doing the speeds of 140+ and all of a sudden engine died and i realized it after about 3 4 seconds when bike started a bit of fishtailing due to sudden braking generated by lifeless engine. I nearly missed a scooter by inches. I immediatly pulled in clutch and released it several times, nothing happened. Gave multiple starters, nothing happened. Somehow i managed to control the bike and brought it to halt on roadside since it was highway. All this happened within few seconds and was very scary experience for me.. After halting i cranked engine multiple times but it felt like fuel supply has been cut off. Switched ignition on/off and again cranked, nothing budged but as soon as I gave it a bit of throttle it started but picked up rpms very gradually and felt like it will die again if i fail to give more throttle.

                  From there i continued my journey without any problem but i avoided revving much all through the way.

                  Next day on inspection i found neutral light flickering on revving bike. When i contacted ASC they advised me to change the battery and suspected the battery only for that higway incident too.

                  Now it has been around an year since i changed battery and that problem never occured again. Though i faced random shutdowns a couple of times when i depressed clutch but nothing that sort of which i faced earlier.

                  Hope my experience will help u to some extent..
                  Sorry for being a bit long . 😝😌
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                  it would be fun, they said

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                  • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                    Hello all

                    I've been silent observer and follower of this thread and to be honest I've came to learn a lot about bikes through yoy guys. Now since I've been planning to buy a new bike for the last 2 years coz my 1st bike (hero honda ambition 2002 model) has started to show its age, I need help from you guys. Earlier I had my eyes on 150r but then for 35k more 250r has much more to offer. but my question is, is it right to go for 250r in early 2017 I mean this late coz it came out in 2011 since then there are no mechanical updates and as I'm looking to keep this bike for at least 7 years will spares availability an issue?

                    Pleasd guide

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                    • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                      Originally posted by leech View Post
                      The ironhorse99, this shut off was different, in that I was wasn't able to turn the bike on immediately. Other shut offs had the peculiar feature wherein the bike would start right back within a second of pressing the starter, albeit with unstable idle.
                      After reading a few posts on such issues, my take on this is that it could be a bad ignition coil (or the wires from/to it) or the spark plug wire & boot.
                      If the ignition coil doesn't supply power to the spark plug, the plug will not fire which in turn obviously doesn't ignite the fuel and hence the shut down & starting trouble. In such a situation, when you thumb the starter, the fuel is being injected in to the cylinder but due to a missing spark, it is not being ignited and hence the cylinder ends up flooded with fuel due to the cranking.
                      Do a google to get some info on how to do a basic test on an ignition coil.

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                      • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                        New For Honda CBR250R CBR 250R ABS 2011 2012 2013 11 12 13 CNC bike motorcycle motorbike brake

                        (from AliExpress Android)

                        Guys just wanted to know. Has anyone tried this, does this fit without any jugaad??

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                        • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                          Hey guys as I've posted earlier, I had a accident on my ceeber, its repaired, the SVC told me my front tyre was punctured n its weak, ok now I'm in a dillema, I can't just change my front tyre, rather change the set into a brand new set of Michelins. Coming to the front tyre I have a hardly used spare 100-80-17 tyre lying around, can, it won't cost me a rupee as I've said before I own a factory. I won't to know if the profile can be fitted on, I know it will affect my handling but to what extent? Note I need to change only if my front mrf gives way again, I just want to know what are the issues if I change to the 100-80-17 profile tyre. Rather buy a set all together and change in 4 months or soo.

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                          • second hand honda cbr250r ABS

                            Hi Guys,

                            This is my first post on this website, though I am being reading xbhp forums since as long ago as I can remember.
                            I am a bike enthusiast and I have been riding pulsar 220 f from past 3 years.
                            But now I got a deal from my friend and bought a Honda CBR250R ABS from him. He bought this bike in march 2016 and got only 2800 kms on the odo.
                            Along with the bike he also gave me the following accessories:

                            MT blade helmet
                            Sena 10s bluetooth
                            Riders jacket
                            Protection gloves
                            Knee pads
                            Saddle bag
                            K&n filter (already fitted in the bike)
                            And also, He has taken 4 years extended warranty in the bike. This whole deal costed me around 1.7 lakhs
                            I have been riding for long but I am still not a expert. I would like to know from my fellow experienced bikers if this was a fair deal or could I have gone for even less.
                            P.S.Will post the pics soon of my new CBR.

                            Thanks

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                            • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                              Originally posted by kannanmr16 View Post
                              New For Honda CBR250R CBR 250R ABS 2011 2012 2013 11 12 13 CNC bike motorcycle motorbike brake
                              New For Honda CBR250R CBR 250R ABS 2011 2012 2013 11 12 13 CNC bike motorcycle motorbike brake&Clutch Levers Orange Top quality-in Levers, Ropes & Cables from Automobiles & Motorcycles on Aliexpress.com | Alibaba Group
                              (from AliExpress Android)

                              Guys just wanted to know. Has anyone tried this, does this fit without any jugaad??
                              you get these for same price locally as well.. exact same price.
                              they are a direct fit for ABS model however for NON-ABS you would need to do some filing.which is not really difficult.
                              "A good long ride can clear your mind, restore your faith, and use up a lot of fuel."

                              RE Bullet 1977 - Current
                              RX-100 1995 - Current
                              CBZ Classic 2003 - Current
                              Activa 2004 - Current
                              CBR 250R 2012 - Current
                              Ninja 650 2013 - Current.

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                              • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                                Originally posted by Deathwing View Post
                                Hey guys as I've posted earlier, I had a accident on my ceeber, its repaired, the SVC told me my front tyre was punctured n its weak, ok now I'm in a dillema, I can't just change my front tyre, rather change the set into a brand new set of Michelins. Coming to the front tyre I have a hardly used spare 100-80-17 tyre lying around, can, it won't cost me a rupee as I've said before I own a factory. I won't to know if the profile can be fitted on, I know it will affect my handling but to what extent? Note I need to change only if my front mrf gives way again, I just want to know what are the issues if I change to the 100-80-17 profile tyre. Rather buy a set all together and change in 4 months or soo.
                                I don't see a problem using the tire. But, here are a few "buts"

                                But with the lax of front end feedback. Your contact patch reduces, so the front end is easy to steer to an extent, and your grip levels when you lean would go for a toss (the infamous lean twitch) your ride height increases slightly. Increased sidewall provides good cushioning but if it's a bias ply you'd feel every single feedback on your bars, the ride does translate to a slightly bumpy ride. I hope you don't ride the ABS version.

                                I would suggest you use this tire as a temporary option, if handling and feedback are your priorities. Radials are comparatively heavier than bias ply, so that means slight reduction in unsprung weight slightly reduces.

                                Cheers!
                                VJ
                                Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
                                The girl said, 'NO!'


                                And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


                                THE END

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