Re: Honda CBR 250R

No sir please, am not that knowledged and that wise.

I had a liking to automatic chain oiler and this is just a tool to increase my laziness .

Ram

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Uphill, yes, I understand your struggle, and it's purely because of this bike's gearing. Unlike most bikes, you don't have torque low down, you gotta rev that motor to get that torque you really need and keep it on the boil, the moment the RPM drops, the bike starts to bog down, yes I understand your dilemma, in that case, try shifting to second gear and then go beyond 6k, this way, you can use the other gears to give you more rolling speed, but ultimately you gotta dance around the gear lever a bit. Part and parcel of the bike, unfortunately.

You have gravity based oiling systems like and motorized oil systems Scottoiler, these are expensive and some may have advantages and some may find disadvantages. Here is a desi one, where you can buy, and you can do your mods according to your need.

Gravity Chain Oiling System for Motorcycles, Universal fit oiler

This website is run by one my friend, Aditya. Pretty much good stuff.

Plus 1. Grease is in fact a fantastic friction reducer, using grease I can vouch for the smoothness, but it's all sunshine as long as the sun is high above, the moment you start you riding in rain, slush or sand ridden, areas, the grease is a dust magnet, and particularly has good affinity for sand particles, and sand with rolling metal is a deadly combination which basically grinds the chain rollers and thus sooner than expected chain wear.

This is why those case enclosed chains are so good and last long even if they are not lubed periodically, because they are protected from the crud by the case. Unlike our open chain, no matter how you clean, how much you lube, when the road conditions go bad, they do in fact demand a toll on the chain.

And you might ask why is there a plastic protector or chain guard over the chain you see on our bikes aren't they supposed to protect the chain? Well not exactly, those plastic thing you see above the chain is there to prevent the lube throw over the pillion's legs. Just say you don't want to look like you pooped appearing for an interview.

Cheers!
VJ

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The problem with oil is that it spoils the rear rim badly. It's hard to get the dirt of it. That's why I started using dry type chain lube from Tribocor. It really lasts long for 500+ kms. It doesn't attract dirt too. In the rains I lube it again after 200kms for my satisfaction.

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With a pillion or single? It usually happens with pillion and sometimes on very steep hill. But 7000rpm on the first gear is too much of stress if prolonged. Try to play with the clutch in the second gear. That's the trick.

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Clutch will get fried if we try to half clutch, it happened to other vehicles. I was riding solo, and the bike couldn't pull in second gear to maintain speeds < 30 kmph.


About the rims getting dirty :




Three and a half years of ownership. Never even thought of cleaning them. Rim cleaning is just aesthetics. I respect those guys who laboriously work to make their rides spanking new, but I simply don't have the time. Besides, the dirt is a camo. Like the snipers ghillie suit. Keeps annoying kids and selfies posers away.

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I have a similar setup done by me, I have a oil storage container(Rs. 10) a transparent tube brought from aquarium shop for oil to flow from the container to rear chain/sprocket. Bent a cloth hanger type metal to keep the tube in position to point the dispense the oil to the correct spot. Right now the oil in the container is kept a minimum level as I have no stopper/control value to control the flow.

Things planned
1. Need to find the nozzle to fit properly at the end for perfect positioning/dispense.2. Introduce a dc solenoid to stop/control the oil flow.3. Forced oil dispensing mechanism.
But point 3 is on later stages if the current setup goes as expected.

Ram

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no oil is going to be as tacky as a chain spray, you could though try experimenting with a ep 140 gear oil instead of the ep90 gear oil.
you could also give the gravity chain oiling system which VJ posted a try. though in the pics, the lubricating point seems to be positioned such that only the outer links get the oil.. i think it would be better if it was centered towards the top or bottom of chain such that the oil spreads onto both ends of the chain link.

personally, i wouldn't keep such a system always running.. maybe just fill oil and turn it on every 500km to lube and not have oil dripping every time i ride.

for those apprehensive of the grease spray, if used in the right amount it wont cause accelerated wear as long as one is sensible enough clean the chain using a solvent (chain cleaner, diesel, kerosene) at regular intervals. There are more expensive chain wax's , pastes etc that are just as sticky as this grease.. so more than what product you use, one should stick to a clean-lube cycle depending on the usage and muck on the chain.

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Yes I have a similar system currently with the bike, and few enhancements are planned which will address the problem you have mentioned.

Will try to source ep140 oil and update this thread on this tool.

Ram

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My radiator fan failed recently and it was found that the relay has failed. I got robed for a radiator fan relay change today. The SVC Ppl said that there are 2 relays and they changed both. I have no idea about it though. Including a waterwash the bill was 763Rs.

Any insight abt the fan relay? Could help in future and may be to other xbhpians.

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Thanks [MENTION=6133]MAVERICK_m21[/MENTION]I, stay in Vadgaon Sheri, will try a test ride this weekend there.

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Have you been to Ooty recently.?

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No. Where I've been is adyampara waterfalls, nilambur, kerala.

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Hi Guys,
Have anyone changed stock clip on to large pipe handle bar or clipon risers. My bike clocked over 40k kms, now recently I'm diagnosed with Spondylosis which gives more lower back pain.
Last year, I have done Saddlesore endurance ride too and now with my current health condition, I cant ride CBR as the posture makes things even worse.
Anyone here have changed handle bar to make upright riding position, Please share your thoughts.

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You can refer the below post for relay position and cost. For me the labor charge is Rs.66 for changing the relays, so the amount looks fair considering they usually charge more for water wash than outside shops.


Ram

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Very sorry to hear that hope you can get back to normal again. Coming to bike as far as I know you cant really change the bikes handle bar because if you raise the handle bar it will touch the windscreen while in parking position more over the balancing also has to be considered it should not add too much weight or too little weight or bike will wobble.
Even if you make them longer it will be very difficult to turn the bike I mean the more your hands go away from center of the bike the stiffer it becomes to turn.
You can try few things but its better keep your bike parked till you get better.