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**krish2778** · 06-09-2016, 05:39 PM

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Originally posted by theironhorse99 View Post

fan does not kick in anymore. was stuck into jam for over 40 minutes and saw 6 bars on heat first time in 4 years....

turned off the bike. got it back to normal . took and alternate route and reached office.

coolant levels are good. looks like fan has conked off else the switch that engages the fan... fuses good.
hope its not big thing that failed..

am going for a change tomorrow. will keep you posted. my fan failed just an hour back and am suspecting relay...

Originally posted by Iam_Hoodi_CBR View Post

Sorry that you had to see 6 bars of temp in your CBR. I suspect that the fan is at fault here. When the relay failed in my bike, the fan was running nonstop until the power(battery) is disconnected.

Quoting the below post from @krish2778, which shows that fan should kick in if anything fails except the power line. Hope yours is a similar issue below and nothing big.

Well, for me it was the loose connection at less than 1k on the odo. Never happened since then. [MENTION=51754]theironhorse99[/MENTION], might help to check that too.

Originally posted by theironhorse99 View Post

woo. lets see what coming for me tomorrow morning.

Honda being Honda, spare prices will give the most ugly bite.

Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post

@theironhorse99 what Arvind said. But what I am surprised is the location and the ease with which water and dust can spoil these fuses. Talk about irony, I mean, Honda provided cover for fuses which are under the seat, and have provided spare fuses, good in fact. But they've omitted the cover for those two fuses which are exposed and which are critical for the fuel pump and the fan. What even more ironic, is they have a transparent rubber boot under the same relay box, but not over it, kinda funny if you ask me.

Cheers!
VJ

C'mon Vijay, they do need to get their profits from somewhere.

Cheers
Ride Safe
Krishna

**theironhorse99** · 06-09-2016, 07:35 PM

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Originally posted by krish2778 View Post

Well, for me it was the loose connection at less than 1k on the odo. Never happened since then. @theironhorse99, might help to check that too.

Honda being Honda, spare prices will give the most ugly bite.

C'mon Vijay, they do need to get their profits from somewhere.

Cheers
Ride Safe
Krishna

Originally posted by sman999 View Post

Rs.66? Vs Rs.300 I was definitely robbed. I will take it up to them.

Share the break up if possible. Thanks.

I was aware of one relay but not the second one. I didn't get the faulty relays since I was more than Ohk that they surprisingly gave my bike back in short period. Here in my town they don't have any spares for the 250r. Usually they take weeks to change any parts. They don't even have throttle oil with them. pathetic! I procure spares either from Madurai or chennai.

Good news is I'm riding to chennai this weekend for a full service. So I'll get everything checked. The fairing is cracked due to a fall so I have to change that as well.

Thanks for the info.

Originally posted by arvstreetracer View Post

Just tore apart a relay to see the mechanism down there. It's the same type as stated above. Attaching some pictures.

Originally posted by arvstreetracer View Post

Relay has a movable armature mechanically hinged at one point. There is a fixed contact point. In a layman's language, when free end of armature touches the fixed contact point, the circuit gets completed and fan kicks on. In your case when your relay got kaput, the armature failed to retract to its position, got into contact with fixed contact point and hence completing the electrical circuit and your fan was continuously on. However, in most of cases the armature fails to do its job when relay goes kaput - breaking the circuit permanently.

went to the SVC. it was indeed the relay. 15 mins job...
i went ahead and changed both the relays and kep the fule pump old relay which is working as a spare.
work done details.

Fan relay changed - 145 bucks
Fuel Pump relay changed - 145 Bucks.
Chain - scrubbed - cleaned - lubed - slack adjusted- free.
Coolant topped up 150 ml - Free.
2 x Relay change _ labour charge - 70 bucks.

total bill 380 including taxes etc.

got a spare relay and chain all set for next 1000 km
4 years and 42,000+ km. good life for a relay which has seen some serious beating.. crazy trips and HYD traffic.

**B7ACKTHORN** · 06-09-2016, 08:27 PM

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Originally posted by theironhorse99 View Post

Fan relay changed - 145 bucks
Fuel Pump relay changed - 145 Bucks.
Chain - scrubbed - cleaned - lubed - slack adjusted- free.
Coolant topped up 150 ml - Free.
2 x Relay change _ labour charge - 70 bucks.

total bill 380 including taxes etc.

got a spare relay and chain all set for next 1000 km
4 years and 42,000+ km. good life for a relay which has seen some serious beating.. crazy trips and HYD traffic.

Glad to know the issue resolved, so, indeed it was the relay. Keeping the old one as a spare can come in handy. Panasonic fan just doesn't give up, as I always say, the cooling system of the CBR is by far the best in the Indian scene.

Cheers!
VJ

**theironhorse99** · 06-09-2016, 09:01 PM

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post

Glad to know the issue resolved, so, indeed it was the relay. Keeping the old one as a spare can come in handy. Panasonic fan just doesn't give up, as I always say, the cooling system of the CBR is by far the best in the Indian scene.

Cheers!
VJ

i could happily ride without the fan running at speeds of 20-40 in 3-4th gear before i reached the SVC and temp bar never kicked to 4th.
only in extreme traffic jam while i was in 1st gear only for over 45 minutes the bar started kicking in.

as soon as bike reached 20+ it again went to 3. this speaks a lot about the basic designing and r&d done. how robust the system is even if the fan fails you can still ride at normal speeds.

**sman999** · 06-10-2016, 02:39 PM

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Went back to the SVC today. Questioned the mechanic why did he change the fuel pump relay while the issue was with the radiator fan relay. He couldn't answer and blaberred some non sense. Also asked why was I charged 300₹ while other SVC's only charge 66₹. He said the bike was there for three days(excluding sat & sun) and they worked on it for almost a day and a half. I told them it's a matter of 15 mins and it was delayed as they didn't have the part available. He kept mum for that also. Finally after the argument they agreed to get the labour charge discounted on a future service and apologized for what happened.

Thanks for everyone who helped me out with their inputs. 🤗 [emoji120]🏻

**krish2778** · 06-10-2016, 03:33 PM

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Originally posted by theironhorse99 View Post

went to the SVC. it was indeed the relay. 15 mins job...
i went ahead and changed both the relays and kep the fule pump old relay which is working as a spare.
work done details.

Fan relay changed - 145 bucks
Fuel Pump relay changed - 145 Bucks.
Chain - scrubbed - cleaned - lubed - slack adjusted- free.
Coolant topped up 150 ml - Free.
2 x Relay change _ labour charge - 70 bucks.

total bill 380 including taxes etc.

got a spare relay and chain all set for next 1000 km
4 years and 42,000+ km. good life for a relay which has seen some serious beating.. crazy trips and HYD traffic.

That's impressive..!!

They always charge me 200 for chain cleaning, lubing, tightening. I think I might have got it done for free once, can't really remember though.
Have had coolant topped up free multiple times.

Anyways, it's awesome that the issue got sorted out pretty quick.

Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post

Glad to know the issue resolved, so, indeed it was the relay. Keeping the old one as a spare can come in handy. Panasonic fan just doesn't give up, as I always say, the cooling system of the CBR is by far the best in the Indian scene.

Cheers!
VJ

Amen to that man..!! The Cooling system is indeed pure the most versatile. Never jumped above 3 even in the shittiest of Bangalore rush hour traffic. That's a pretty hard litmus test to pass.

Cheers
Ride Safe
Krishna

**satheez_7** · 06-10-2016, 04:25 PM

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Originally posted by Dandamudi Mohan Krishna View Post

Very sorry to hear that hope you can get back to normal again. Coming to bike as far as I know you cant really change the bikes handle bar because if you raise the handle bar it will touch the windscreen while in parking position more over the balancing also has to be considered it should not add too much weight or too little weight or bike will wobble.
Even if you make them longer it will be very difficult to turn the bike I mean the more your hands go away from center of the bike the stiffer it becomes to turn.
You can try few things but its better keep your bike parked till you get better.

Hello dude, Thanks for your advice. Yeah I will try to have a break till I get well.

**theironhorse99** · 06-10-2016, 08:02 PM

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Originally posted by satheez_7 View Post

Hello dude, Thanks for your advice. Yeah I will try to have a break till I get well.

you can always mod things and sorry to hear about your lower back.
i had 2 discs gone bad in 2013 and still i did ladakh trip in 2014 and continue to ride and even cycling these days.
give your body few months of rest with mild exercises.
stop smoking if you do as smoking eats of bones too.

start with walking and mild exercises and eat more green leafy food. gradually it will get better.

**Neel08** · 06-10-2016, 08:31 PM

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Hello respected CBR Owners and Knowledgeable members, I have a query though it is pretty unusual :-

Is it possible to get 12 Amp current from the Battery Terminal with Engine Running / Ideling ;

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Can I hook up Electric Air Pump to fill up two tyres which require 12 Amp current rating with out damaging Bike's Electrical Components ?

**leech** · 06-10-2016, 09:00 PM

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Originally posted by Neel08 View Post

Hello respected CBR Owners and Knowledgeable members, I have a query though it is pretty unusual :-

Is it possible to get 12 Amp current from the Battery Terminal with Engine Running / Ideling ;

Got Alligator Clamp To Cig Lighter Cable here : 30A CAR Battery Clip Clamp Alligator Clips TO Cigarette Lighter Charger Cable | eBay

Can I hook up Electric Air Pump to fill up two tyres which require 12 Amp current rating with out damaging Bike's Electrical Components ?

The CBR battery is rated at 7 ah. That means if you attach a 12 amp load to it, your battery will get damaged. As per my knowledge, the charging current to the battery is probably less than 1 ah, and thus running the engine has very little effect.

It's better to get one of those imported cycle hand pumps which have a thick nozzle for bikes. It takes just 10-15 minutes to fill both tyres.

**arvstreetracer** · 06-10-2016, 09:24 PM

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Originally posted by Neel08 View Post

Hello respected CBR Owners and Knowledgeable members, I have a query though it is pretty unusual :-

Is it possible to get 12 Amp current from the Battery Terminal with Engine Running / Ideling ;

Got Alligator Clamp To Cig Lighter Cable here : 30A CAR Battery Clip Clamp Alligator Clips TO Cigarette Lighter Charger Cable | eBay

Can I hook up Electric Air Pump to fill up two tyres which require 12 Amp current rating with out damaging Bike's Electrical Components ?

Yes, it is possible. Make sure your pump is 12v. The only drawback is battery would drain faster as it is 12 volts 6 Ah in CBR. Better to connect the pump when ignition is off.

**leech** · 06-10-2016, 09:42 PM

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Originally posted by arvstreetracer View Post

Yes, it is possible. Make sure your pump is 12v. The only drawback is battery would drain faster as it is 12 volts 6 Ah in CBR. Better to connect the pump when ignition is off.

Have you tried it? Based on my current knowledge a 12 volt 12 amp load on a 12v 7ah battery is not recommended.

**Deathwing** · 06-10-2016, 11:14 PM

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Guys what is the duration of coolant change? I gave my bike to a friend's new service center , don't think the coolant was changed, my cost was 2519, good job but I felt heat at 2500-3000rpm in traffic which I not felt before but it wasnt like molten hot n temp was always at 3 bars, also guys if you from Chennai , do check out service plus, they are a multibrand service center that services all100-500cc bikes and scooters where u can watch your bike getting serviced from the lounge, the app is on android, service costed me 2519 with a rear bulb change, OK I'll also attach below my radiator pics,

**Deathwing** · 06-10-2016, 11:15 PM

Re: Honda CBR 250R

This is my radiator, fins look a bit bent, do I need a change?

**Deathwing** · 06-10-2016, 11:17 PM

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Sorry for the Earlier msges, mods please assist me how to merge into one post, my phone is tripping out

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