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  • Re: Honda CBR 250R

    Originally posted by war0om View Post
    I recently picked up a used 2011 Honda CBR 250R (STD). All things just seemed smooth, and felt I did get a good deal.

    Now I am planning to get a through service done on it.

    I was reading reviews of few service centers around Delhi, and none actually have any good reviews.

    Is there any recommended service center any one can suggest in around Delhi?
    So, it is a 7 year old bike :P But rides like charm. I am 6 ft, heavy built. Plan to ride the machine as an occasional commuter (1-3 days a week) and highway runs 1-2 times a month.

    After a week of riding, I am more comfortable with the seating posture, and ride is more enjoyable. Due to my height and build I get a quite a lot of wind blast at good speeds, but its fine when i duck low. I was struggling with foot brakes though, as my feet would be pointed downwards, and I have to reach up every time to use the brake lever, thus using front braking more.

    Also this old red machine of mine is still bit of an attention seeker, never thought it would still attract those glares.

    I am planning to switch to different tyre ( mrf's/michelin ), as ridding on those old stock tyre (though it is in a good shape) it doesn't grip well. Hence not riding at higher speeds, sticking to around 50-80kmph at max.

    Originally posted by arvstreetracer View Post
    Malwa Honda
    W10
    Okhla, ND

    There is a mech, Ramesh and a supervisor, Shyam. Both are trained personnels.
    Thanks @arvstreetracer for the recommendation.

    I stay in Dwarka, and visitng the service centre at Okhla was worth the effort. A day before I called them, if any slot booking is to be done, they said it is done on Mondays to Fridays, and on weekends no slotting is done, so he asked me to drop by at around 9am, I reached at around 10am.

    I gave the bike for service, had to wait around for 1 hrs, before my bike reached the working bay. I approached the mech. working on it, and told the story this is a second hand bike I bought recently, and really clueless of its real condition, also asked him to work on side indicator, informed him that led of the instrument cluster was not working, and finally about braking. The mech. was a nice guy, he said the bike is in good shape, and regular service would be fine, with no extra work to be done. He asked my how much did I buy it for? He said that this bike is worth about 50K. (yes i paid more than that)

    Only parts changed was 1 of the rear indicator, air filter , few other stuff (fuel filer was OOS) , and he said I will have to replace the whole instrument cluster (Costs about Rs 5.5K), since current cluster is broken and their maybe shorting from inside it (also instrument cluster was OOS). In regards to braking he said, the brakes are just fine, and said tyre were the culprit, which I agreed to

    Overall service experience was good, and spent less than 3k, and was back home by 2pm.

    Originally posted by nomad_sachin View Post
    Tommorow I will be visiting Malwa honda, Okhla for service(odo 46000). I have a few queries

    (1) sometime back I mentioned that my bike is consuming excessive oil. I tried various remedies as mentioned by fellows here but the oil consumption is still same. piston ring replacement seems the only solution but I discussed this with a few mechanics and all of them told that entire cylinder kit is to be replaced. Is it really so, replacing only rings isn't sufficient ?

    (2) Do I need to replace spark plug considering the odo reading?

    (3) Since past 35k km I have been using shell and motul FS oils. I don't know wheather svc will be putting a mineral or synthetic oil. Is it fine to switch to mineral oil at this point as I will again be putting shell FS on next oil change ?
    I did visit today as well, did spot another red CBR, maybe that was you
    Last edited by war0om; 03-10-2018, 05:02 PM.

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    • Re: Honda CBR 250R

      Originally posted by nomad_sachin View Post
      Tommorow I will be visiting Malwa honda, Okhla for service(odo 46000). I have a few queries

      (1) sometime back I mentioned that my bike is consuming excessive oil. I tried various remedies as mentioned by fellows here but the oil consumption is still same. piston ring replacement seems the only solution but I discussed this with a few mechanics and all of them told that entire cylinder kit is to be replaced. Is it really so, replacing only rings isn't sufficient ?

      (2) Do I need to replace spark plug considering the odo reading?

      (3) Since past 35k km I have been using shell and motul FS oils. I don't know wheather svc will be putting a mineral or synthetic oil. Is it fine to switch to mineral oil at this point as I will again be putting shell FS on next oil change ?
      Changing rings will do the job if cylinder is in good condition. Problem is changing rings would require experienced hands and these new mechs don't want to mess with it hence they suggest changing entire kit which is plug and play kind of job. Good news is that CBR cylinder price is dropped to almost half of what it was few years ago. Earlier it was close to 10k INR, but it's of 6K or less nowadays.

      As per manual, spark plug life is 48k km. Let the mech decide on this part.

      Most of SVCs sell Honda throttle FS 10w30 and so the Malwa. They won't put mineral in CBR.
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      • Re: Honda CBR 250R

        Originally posted by arvstreetracer View Post
        Changing rings will do the job if cylinder is in good condition. Problem is changing rings would require experienced hands and these new mechs don't want to mess with it hence they suggest changing entire kit which is plug and play kind of job. Good news is that CBR cylinder price is dropped to almost half of what it was few years ago. Earlier it was close to 10k INR, but it's of 6K or less nowadays.

        As per manual, spark plug life is 48k km. Let the mech decide on this part.

        Most of SVCs sell Honda throttle FS 10w30 and so the Malwa. They won't put mineral in CBR.
        Is the quality of the cylinder kit also reduced along with price?

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        • Re: Honda CBR 250R

          Originally posted by leech View Post
          Is the quality of the cylinder kit also reduced along with price?
          Not sure about any reduction in quality, but price is cut by half.
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          • Re: Honda CBR 250R

            Hello everyone. Its almost time for my oil change now and I am currently thinking to try out the New Valvoline 4 Tech Ultimate FS racing oil. Has anybody used it earlier? Maybe having a feedback on it would be better.

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            • Re: Honda CBR 250R

              Originally posted by Ave2592 View Post
              Hello everyone. Its almost time for my oil change now and I am currently thinking to try out the New Valvoline 4 Tech Ultimate FS racing oil. Has anybody used it earlier? Maybe having a feedback on it would be better.
              Whats your research on it say?

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              • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                Unable to find much. Looks like a new product. Seems it has the highest API specifications and it also has JASO- MA2.

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                • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                  Originally posted by leech View Post
                  Whats your research on it say?
                  If you can also look into it and put in some suggestions then it might be helpful.

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                  • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                    Originally posted by Ave2592 View Post
                    If you can also look into it and put in some suggestions then it might be helpful.
                    Afaik it comes in 10w40 and has API SN. The same API rating that Hindustan Petroleum claims their wonderful Racer Synth 10w30 oil contains. What synthetic compounds they can put in an oil that costs ₹265/litre on Amazon (400 MRP) is beyond my understanding, however my cbr250 hasn't exploded yet, and the gear shifts are smooth. Perhaps some engineer had a barianwave after scraping the cruds out of the bottom of the HP refineries, and decided to inform management about it. Voila, Racer Synth.

                    What is the cost of the Valvoline at your dealers?

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                    • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                      Originally posted by leech View Post
                      Afaik it comes in 10w40 and has API SN. The same API rating that Hindustan Petroleum claims their wonderful Racer Synth 10w30 oil contains. What synthetic compounds they can put in an oil that costs ₹265/litre on Amazon (400 MRP) is beyond my understanding, however my cbr250 hasn't exploded yet, and the gear shifts are smooth. Perhaps some engineer had a barianwave after scraping the cruds out of the bottom of the HP refineries, and decided to inform management about it. Voila, Racer Synth.

                      What is the cost of the Valvoline at your dealers?
                      Haven't visited the dealer yet. Just searched online. Will be contacting the dealer tomorrow and find out the price.

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                      • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                        [MENTION=83373]nomad_sachin[/MENTION] - the air filter is oiled type I think. To attract more dirt. My bike drinks oil too, but as long as there is not much soot on exhaust tip, no smoke on startup, and other engine health parameters are stable, I just ignore it. Check the oil every week, top it up. Extend the oil drain interval since you are pouring a bit of new oil every now and then.

                        I personally wouldn't waste 10k on a new piston kit just because my bike is drinking oil.

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                        • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                          Originally posted by s1d View Post
                          Most of the mechanics will ask you to change the entire bore kit and maybe even get the valve kit replaced. They don't bother to find the root cause of the oil consumption. Only on properly inspecting the bore, would it be possible to ascertain if it needs to be replaced. If it isn't scored (i.e vertical scratches that are visible to naked eye) or glazed (shiny areas) , and the bore is not oval you might get away by simply replacing the rings, or rings+new piston. Ideally you should notice the cross hatch pattern at 45 deg angle on the bore surface.

                          Sometimes the cause of oil consumption might even be leaky valve seals.

                          This mentality sometimes is again due to the labor involved.. its the same either if you want to change just the rings or the entire kit. So mechanics/svc don't want to take a chance and also probably want to make a few more bucks by making you replace more parts than really required.

                          Can't say for sure without inspecting the block/piston.

                          Considering the ODO, go ahead and plonk in a new plug.
                          You can use the honda throttle fs oil, or the regular honda engine oil.. no issues. Just do a careful run in for the first 1000km, by not redlining and keeping the rpm under 7000 most of the times. A rebuild might not be close to a new engine, so be more careful with the run in.
                          Thanks for your response.
                          I would like to know the exact cause of oil consumption before changing rings/valves/cylinder kit. I have thoroughly checked for leakage but there isn't any. there is no smoke from exhaust. now I doubt that it might be a case of 'blow by'.
                          on last oil change I noticed that crankcase breather pipe was lying open from the air filter side so I cleaned it and fitted.
                          Since then I have ridden 4700km and today I noticed that the dirt on air filter is not dry rather greasy. I am attaching the picture of filter and breather pipe below

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                          Originally posted by war0om View Post

                          I did visit today as well, did spot another red CBR, maybe that was you
                          I cancelled my visit at the last moment, will go there in a week or two.

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                          Originally posted by arvstreetracer View Post
                          Changing rings will do the job if cylinder is in good condition. Problem is changing rings would require experienced hands and these new mechs don't want to mess with it hence they suggest changing entire kit which is plug and play kind of job. Good news is that CBR cylinder price is dropped to almost half of what it was few years ago. Earlier it was close to 10k INR, but it's of 6K or less nowadays.

                          As per manual, spark plug life is 48k km. Let the mech decide on this part.

                          Most of SVCs sell Honda throttle FS 10w30 and so the Malwa. They won't put mineral in CBR.\
                          can you confirm on the cylinder kit price part ?
                          I called 2 svc and both of them quoted 8970/-
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                          • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                            Originally posted by nomad_sachin View Post
                            Thanks for your response.
                            I would like to know the exact cause of oil consumption before changing rings/valves/cylinder kit. I have thoroughly checked for leakage but there isn't any. there is no smoke from exhaust. now I doubt that it might be a case of 'blow by'.
                            on last oil change I noticed that crankcase breather pipe was lying open from the air filter side so I cleaned it and fitted.
                            Since then I have ridden 4700km and today I noticed that the dirt on air filter is not dry rather greasy. I am attaching the picture of filter and breather pipe below
                            Good that you noticed this. You are right, the air filter shouldn't normally be damp from oil (unless it's the viscous type oil filter).. if its blowby it will be excessively oily, and the filter box itself will have a layer of oil/dirt on it.
                            clean the air filter box with a damp cloth or with a cloth wet with petrol so that all the oil residue can be wiped out clean.
                            Make sure the breather pipes are routed properly.
                            replace the air filter with a new one.
                            Change your oil and oil filter.. ensure you don't over fill the oil. Rather say start off by adding 50-100ml lesser, than the recommended.

                            Now ride your bike around normally for a couple of weeks and keep an eye on the oil level and air filter every couple of days, and also if you are seeing any smoke especially on cold starts.
                            Last edited by s1d; 03-12-2018, 04:30 PM.

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                            • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                              Got this few weeks back at a steal price


                              Rear will too get SDs soon, will post when its done
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                              • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                                Originally posted by prateek2210 View Post
                                Got this few weeks back at a steal price


                                Rear will too get SDs soon, will post when its done
                                How much did you get it for ?
                                I remember i got it for 4800 for a pair from karol bagh . Had completed 8000kms on them .
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