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Re: Honda CBR 250R
Friends, have any one of come across this brand varroc? I bought one of their yamaha fz oil filters to install in my cbr 250. Looks like the inner Dia of the rubber seal is bigger than cbr and its not sitting snug. M almost going to replace it for a cbr original basing on a few advises.. any thoughts are welcome. The filter looks decent made though and the shop guy told me it's a Bajaj company.
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varroc is a reputed company as an oem for various automotive companies. for eg it supplies the valves to many oem two wheeler companies.Originally posted by Foose View PostHere s a pic of the varroc oil filter pack. Was also planning to build the oil passage tube dia with Teflon tape, or metal tape to make the filter sit snug. Waiting for some more opinions.. [ATTACH]242389[/ATTACH][ATTACH]242390[/ATTACH]
was this filter that you bought a drop in replacement for the cbr ?
why do u want to add teflon or metal tape? do u want it to break off and possibly clog the oil passage ways ?
If it's a direct replacement and fits normally.. just use as is, or get the original filter.. if not the fz filter is a direct fit.
edit: just noticed on the pic, its a fz compatible filter, so should fit in the cbr. if you notice any abnormality in fitting compared to the stock filter, do not use it.
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The only thing about this varroc filter is that it was not sitting snug enough around that oil passage stem/ receptacle. Anyways I removed it this morning and fixed yamaha original which is again mahle. But it sat a little better. I aligned the filter cover to my best and have started riding.hope the spring wouldn't have sat off center on the cover. The cbr spring is bigger in Dia.Originally posted by s1d View Postvarroc is a reputed company as an oem for various automotive companies. for eg it supplies the valves to many oem two wheeler companies.
was this filter that you bought a drop in replacement for the cbr ?
why do u want to add teflon or metal tape? do u want it to break off and possibly clog the oil passage ways ?
If it's a direct replacement and fits normally.. just use as is, or get the original filter.. if not the fz filter is a direct fit.
edit: just noticed on the pic, its a fz compatible filter, so should fit in the cbr. if you notice any abnormality in fitting compared to the stock filter, do not use it.
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The fins are majorly bent! Pic showing the damage. But the bike surprised me here as well. It just didn't heat during the Pondy trip.Originally posted by theironhorse99 View Post....what do you mean by damaged the raditor in pressure wash.. mine gets pressure washed directly on the raditor every 15 days and been like that for 6 years. did it leak ?
But then, I had a new problem during the Pondy ride. While coming back, stopped for a break and then I noticed the oil spill around the engine guard. My right toe (shoes) was soaked with oil.
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Those bent fins shouldn't affect the cooling much, next time avoid such high pressure water and ask the the guy who scrubs the bike to not rub the radiator.Originally posted by swiftnfurious View PostThe fins are majorly bent! Pic showing the damage. But the bike surprised me here as well. It just didn't heat during the Pondy trip.
But then, I had a new problem during the Pondy ride. While coming back, stopped for a break and then I noticed the oil spill around the engine guard. My right toe (shoes) was soaked with oil.
you could hit it with lower pressure wash from a few feet away and the muck will drop off... regular cleaning will keep the muck from building up and if there is too much muck then it could affect the cooling. but just a few bent fins on a clean radiator should be ok.
And get that oil leak fixed, that's real bad bro.
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Varroc is the leading supplier of injection molded items to many companies, including seats, headlamp assemblies. Fun fact, the seat of the CBR 250R itself is made by Varroc if you remove the seat and observe a stickering. Stories apart, I'd suggest you not to the FZ Byson 150s oil filter as it is direct it at a fraction of the cost. The varroc filter that you have can be tried but at your own risk. Oil filters help circulate the oil and a wrong oil filter can starve oil feed to critical components and cause engine failure.Originally posted by Foose View PostFriends, have any one of come across this brand varroc? I bought one of their yamaha fz oil filters to install in my cbr 250. Looks like the inner Dia of the rubber seal is bigger than cbr and its not sitting snug. M almost going to replace it for a cbr original basing on a few advises.. any thoughts are welcome. The filter looks decent made though and the shop guy told me it's a Bajaj company.
You can either go for FZ 150s oil filter that costs hardly a 100 bucks or the OEM Honda oil filter which costs upwards of 300. The FZ 150 filter is a tried and tested cheaper alternative to the stock.
Originally posted by swiftnfurious View PostThe fins are majorly bent! Pic showing the damage. But the bike surprised me here as well. It just didn't heat during the Pondy trip.
But then, I had a new problem during the Pondy ride. While coming back, stopped for a break and then I noticed the oil spill around the engine guard. My right toe (shoes) was soaked with oil.
The radiator is in pretty bad shape, at least according to motorcycle thesis. Though the cooling will be done satisfactorily, over time, it can reduce the effectiveness of the coolant itself and fan kicking in frequently. I'd suggest start your hunt for a used CBR radiator or you can perhaps get a new radiator for peace of mind.
The leak that you are observing can be possibly from oil filter cover. If the bolts that hold the oil filter cover are loose, you have oil leak which in turn leads to lower oil level which in turn will lead to vibrations and possible engine seizure if the oil level drops dangerously low. Secondly, it can also be due to failed water pump seal which is leaking oil. Start off with cleaning the muck, and inspecting the oil filter cover, and O rings and bolts for proper torque. Replace O rings and if you haven't change your engine oil, now is the time to do so along with oil filter, oil filter O ring. Keep your observations posted.
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Originally posted by s1d View Post...And get that oil leak fixed, that's real bad bro.Thank you. Planning to take the bike to Didar Honda, Egmore - Chennai next week to get the oil spill fixed. I am in two minds on radiator, I may take the plunge of spending 6K on the new radiator.Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post...The radiator is in pretty bad shape... Start off with cleaning the muck, and inspecting the oil filter cover, and O rings and bolts for proper torque. Replace O rings and if you haven't change your engine oil, now is the time to do so along with oil filter, oil filter O ring. Keep your observations posted...
Didar Honda is stating atleast 2 days for normal service due to backlogs - so I may have to plan it. Earlier the better I know.
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Don't waste money on the radiator as yet,it just a few bent fins and you say that you aren't facing issue's.Originally posted by swiftnfurious View PostThank you. Planning to take the bike to Didar Honda, Egmore - Chennai next week to get the oil spill fixed. I am in two minds on radiator, I may take the plunge of spending 6K on the new radiator.
Didar Honda is stating atleast 2 days for normal service due to backlogs - so I may have to plan it. Earlier the better I know.
Just keep it clean with a weekly rinse with water.
If u have the patience sit n carefully straighten the fins using a thin flat blunt object.
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the radiator looks fine to me and can be used . the fins are just bent and not broken.Originally posted by swiftnfurious View PostThe fins are majorly bent! Pic showing the damage. But the bike surprised me here as well. It just didn't heat during the Pondy trip.
But then, I had a new problem during the Pondy ride. While coming back, stopped for a break and then I noticed the oil spill around the engine guard. My right toe (shoes) was soaked with oil.
also the oil spill is just the OIL seal leaking.
FZ filter does have a big rubber diameter hence remove the rubber ring from OEM filter and replace on this and it works just fine."A good long ride can clear your mind, restore your faith, and use up a lot of fuel."
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In my personal preference, my CBR is currently rocking on Motul 7100 10W-40, which I feel is best suited for my riding manners. Its butter smooth, almost 0 vibratons if compared to Honda stock oil when it higher speeds. I usually am a "Late Lateef" kinda guy who needs to reach quick and hence my riding is quick too. I know it's unsafe but old habits die hard. [emoji14]Originally posted by yathi View PostHello experts, need a small guidance. I know this topic has been discussed a lot here but still I would like to add my personal experience there. Next month I am due for service and need to replace engine oil. After my last service with Honda synthetic oil, the bike was good up to 3k, later I was seeing very black color oil and slightly higher engine noise. Later I have changed the oil with a local garage with motul 20-40 synthetic oil, I didn't get right grade. Later bike was way better than Honda oil, engine was smooth, I can see more torque. With Honda oil, I can use 6th gear only once I reach 59+ speed but with motul around 53+ km speed bike was gaining enough power, I mean no stress to engine. Now it is close to 3.5k on motul, very recently noted a slightly higher engine noise and roughness from engine.
During next service I am planning to change to motul synthetic 10w-40 or I am not sure whether motul has 10-30 synthetic oil. I always read that shell ultra helix will go very good with Cbr but the local car garage, I heard like shell is not doing great these days and I trust those guys.
So what's you suggestion, do I need to stick to 10w-30 grade. With motul 20w-40 grade, I saw like low end torque is higher but bike high speed performance was not good. I mean once I reach 100+, I feel like I have reached very high speed.
My common observation is, bike engine showing roughness once oil reached 3.5k range. So if I am going with Honda, I am planning to collect a seperate bottle so that I can change oil at later point.
How's yours experience with engine oil? Are you using up to 6k range? Is there anyone who still using shell ultra helix? Motul 10-40, will it suit Cbr?
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My friend. There is no specific good rpm gear change. You change gears according to your riding conditions. Once you get used to the bike, gear changes automatically becomes smoother because in those times you understand your bike and when she wants the gear change.Originally posted by Foose View PostHelloo friends,
First request is not be mad at me for repeating this oil topic.
After a lot of research and ground work,test rides, on choosing a motorcycle to rejuvenate my riding skills, i shortlisted the cbr250 r.I was almost close to booking the new one, when a casual look in one of the sites grabbed my attention on a used CBR-2013 dec model ,clocked just 15000kms on the odo. Quickly connected with the seller, found that everything with the cbr was genuine, and yes i loved that honda ''whine''. The bike was like ''new'', waiting for me.Without thinking much, i grabbed the bike and here iam with a few questions.
1. Oil has been changed just last month by seller and run close to 800 kms after that.He has no idea what grade but i believe it should be 10w30.
The manual does say the grade as 10w30 and MA spec, but not whether the oil should be mineral or semi synth or full synth.
The honda website shows the fully synth(throttle oil) which is API Sl and JASO MA.
Now, there is a servo 4T synth 10w30 oil - a synthetic blend-API SM,JASO MA2(higher than honda-but still synth blend). As far as i know, the honda fully synth is definitely not a PAO base or an Ester base(ie-not group 4 or 5).It would be a group 3 oil, which actually are not pure synthetics.Basing on this fact and the manual's information,can i use the servo 4T synth??
2. Just a day before i downloaded the manual from honda site, i happen to get a link of cbr 250r manual in which there are 2 grades(10w30 and 10w40) specified,out of which you can choose the one as per your location's ambient temperature. The one i got from honda site has only 10w30, but the arrow extends beyond the 30 degree range if one would have noted.The lower limit also crosses well below zero!! for a 10w oil.
So, has anyone tried the 10w30 servo 4t synth? I mean is it really worth trying?
3.What is a good shift rpm for the cbr 250r? i Generally try to keep the engine around 5 to 5.5k. If it down below that, it seems like individual struggling strokes.At 5k and above, the engine sounds like a hum and is able to take the next higher load.
4.Above what rpm is rapid throttle opening recommended?
Appreciate your expert suggestions..
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No comment on the radiator part but I am using k&n oil filter purchased from flybhp at much cheaper rate than of amazon or any other. And this oil filter works like charm and personally I feel the acceleration has improved by just a bit of margin.Originally posted by Foose View PostDear friends,
1.Is there any alternate oil filter for the CBR 250R?- not the k&N ones, but ones that fits on other indian bikes of similar capacity.
2. Iam planning for an upgrade on the radiator.It is generally thought of as a bigger one, but i plan for an add on radiator of similar size of the existing one with manual selector valves(meaning that you can decide whether to put the 2nd radiator into action or not).
Any thoughts regarding pump capacity,space,fan,elec load, innovative positioning,extra nrv etc are highly appreciated.
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Use rimula with fz oil filter (filter cost less than 50 bucks) for 2 oil changes and then back to FS. The rimula cleans the engine completely. I have the seen the engine in person of my friend's , (Shivang) CBR when he came to SVC. I was amazed. Planning to do the same for my next oil change.Originally posted by ashwinprakas View PostGive Shell Rimula R4 a shot, a few users here are using it on their Honda's and Kawasaki's. Its is a HDEO engine oil and is not recommended for motorcycle use per say, but ownership experiences say otherwise, plus it makes sense to spend 300/liter on this and change at 2k intervals than to invest a premium on so called Fully Synthetic oils and change at extended intervals which as a matter of fact is counter productive considering that combustion blow by and clutch residue gets mixed with the engine oil.
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