Re: Honda CBR 250R

This caught my attention.
Can you please let us know the reason, why for a basic part as simple as an Oil seal you have to wait for months? Without oil seal replacement how you were riding your bike in that period?

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Initially I did shortlist the RR310. Here are the 3 major problems which makes it a big no no for me. As I wrote in my post, QC/ Refinement/ Reliability / Build Quality and Smoothness is a big thing for me, and there are complaints of vibrations and tight gear shifts with the RR310. The story doesn't end here. The only dealership dealing with the RR 310 in Kolkata is "Shubh Auto" in Andul which has a really bad reputation -- They don't give test rides, they are very rude, and they have reputation to neglect following up with the RTO and giving you a Temporary Registration number after months, let alone a permanent registration (See here : https://www.facebook.com/groups/2061...9441749898758/ ) . I don't know which idiot in TVS had the brilliant idea of taking the Mojo route with "Exclusives" instead of adding the RR 310 to the regular TVS Network of Dealers and Servicing which have a good record. In all of West Bengal "not just in Kolkata" there are only 2 RR 310 dealerships if you believe it. Then comes a big scarcity of spare parts availability with the RR 310.

Coming back to the CBR250R. I really love the reliability of the Japs (Yamaha, Honda, Kawasaki, Suzuki in that order). I already own the GSX-150/F and I can tell I am very satisfied with the quality. I need a bike I can rely on in the long-term. The CBR250R is the best for that. I was just keeping my options open if some other bike matched / outran the CBR250R in terms of the requirements that I have posted.

The only issue I have with the CBR after using the GSX's loaded IC (the best in its segment) is the oudated IC. Specially the lack of a Gear Shift Indicator (I know people say, you don't need a shift indicator if you are experienced and all that, which I strongly disagree with, so let's not go there). I am not a big fan of Slipper Clutches as I find it to be best suited for Track Uses where you can't let Engine Braking ruin your shifts. I really need the Engine Braking in City Traffic and Regular uses and a Slipper Clutch would just do away with it. Besides I am not a big fan of "Assists" and love a bike to be in its barebones as much as possible except the FI and the ABS being the only exceptions.

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Your opinion/requirement in the first couple of lines and the last line seem a bit contradictory

Things apart, the CBR is a wonderful machine.. forget the folks that say it is 'old' blah blah blah.. It is a pretty much all round bike that would be a good upgrade for you considering most of your requirements.
Spares are reasonably priced and getting them in major cities should be fine maybe a bit of a wait time for some uncommon spares.

Assuming you ride around 1000km a month, you could safely get it serviced once in 5 months, with fresh oil+filter and an air-filter change every other service. Use honda's fs oil, or better if you can a FS oil from a brand like Shell in w40 grade.. these will easily last 5k km.

Re: Honda CBR 250R

"Display Information" and "Assists" are in no way contradictory in my interpretation. Coming to the "its getting old" rhetoric. I find it to be mostly propagated by the likes of Bajaj and others to sell their new launches. If the CBR250R is old, what does that make those Royal Enfields then? Rhetoric doesn't apply to those? That's BS. The bike is just perfect for the segment it attracts and tries to cater. I mean lets just take the FZ/Fazer 25 against the CBR250R for a moment. Sure, its unfair to compare these as they cater to very different purposes (having a fairing doesn't make a bike a Sport Tourer ; that way the GSX I have is a sport tourer too contrary to what I've felt :P . But what is there with the FZ/Fazer 250 that makes it updated "except the IC" that the CBR250R does not? The FZ/ Fazer 250 is outdated too then? Just cause the CBR250R is almost there for 6 years doesn't make it outdated. I would say, it was way ahead of its time back then.

Re: Honda CBR 250R

The fz25 engine is outdated compared to the CBR. It's a two valve oil/air cooled engine compared to 4 valved liquid cooled engine of CBR. I suggest you buy the CBR 250 or the Apache 310 after a bit, giving time for TVS to resolve vibes. However if vibes are there in new bikes, then I dread to think about 5+ years of ownership.

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Oil seal might sound like a basic part. But a coolant pump oil seal is not something that needs replacement very often. So far I haven’t heard of any cases of failure of that oil seal except mine.
Even on this thread, no such issues have been reported earlier as far as I remember.

Now coming on to the riding part. There is a minor leakage of oil through a seep hole that has been purposefully provided between two seals so that in case of a failure of any of them, user comes to know about it and more importantly immediate mixing of engine oil and coolant could be avoided to save the engine which has been a big cause of seizure of ktm 390 engines since, no seep hole has been given there unlike Honda . There is a very informative video on this. You can search it. Meanwhile i kept a constant check on engine oil level and topped it up whenever i felt the need to do so.

It took so much time because honda guys here were failing to analyse the reason for that leakage and were suggesting me stupid ideas like stuffing up something in that hole, using m seal or some paste kind of thing to seal it permanently. They were not even aware of its existence and suspected that i had hit the engine somewhere which made a hole[emoji23]. Thankfully, i am technically sound so i didn’t listen to them.

Finally a couple of great people on this forum helped me to know the real culprit for this trouble but problems have not ended yet. I reached out to various asc here but they were totally clueless about any such seal. It was when i gave them part no. Stated by VJ previously, they gave me eureka expressions. Anyway thanks to VJ for that.

So that was long story. [emoji28]

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Thanks for your explanation RedWingRider . I had already seen the video which you suggested. It's really amusing that mechanics were unaware on why that hole is provided and the reason for oil leak.

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Agreed! To a lot extend the dash is outdated but nevertheless the bike. If someone says CBR is outdated then RE has died a long back. And yes I found one thing very annoying in CBR dash, i.e. auto reset of tripmeter at 1K, that means even if you are on a trip of 1000kms or more you can't record the total distance at a single shot. Bottom line is if you can wait till something close to CBR is launched or you find something better according to your taste in some different segment you should continue to ride your Gxsr.

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Yes, the IC and the Stock Contigo tyres are the only complaints I have. I really wish Honda gave the 2018 Re-launched CBR with updated IC with more information like "not self resetting" 2 Trip Meters and Shift Indicator and came with MRF Tyres, that's all. The stock tyres I heard are so bad that someone went on to claim "its like giving Bata shoes to 100 metre race athletes". Coming back to waiting for something to launch. My options have always been limited as I have always stayed out considering any Indian manufacturer. The "speculated" GSX-250 from Suzuki might turn out to be a premium 250CC commuter like the FZ/Fazer250, something on the lines of the Gixxer SF rather than something that could be used as a sport tourer. That apart, I don't really see a "worthy" successor of the CBR250R anytime soon. I really feel now this is the bike to buy for me as long as it stays in the market for sometime and spare parts issues don't pop up. I really have a good feeling about this bike. There was a time when I considered the Hero Honda Karizma R, but it was way beyond my budget back then. This seems like the spiritual successor. Not just a bike that comes and passes randomly but an era defining bike.

I am planning to sell my Gixxer SF (which has clocked around 12k kms and has been serviced and maintained properly) around Oct-Nov and book/ get the CBR by Feb-March. Will be coming back right before that for PDI tips (points to look for in the CBR), any relevant info.

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Hello everyone, has anyone tried R15 V3 mirrors on CBR? Will they fit? I wanted to install one cause V3 mirrors are small and look quite beefy, would surely enhance the appeal of CBR. If anyone has tried please let us know if they fit perfectly or not.

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Someone help me please?

Re: Honda CBR 250R

1 ) I am not sure if its for the wiring itself, or for the wiring to not touch the engine directly. Get it checked at svc. They can fix it.
2 ) Depends on your usage.
3 ) Normal.
4 ) Looks good, could be better.
5 ) Price list did you mean ?


Please go through this thread, use search option and go to page 1 of this thread(if you haven't already). The answers to your questions are already here.

Honda CBR 250R

Hello everyone.
Me and my bike are going through their bad times probably.

Previous issues haven’t been sorted out completely and now today i got another shocker.

Just like anyday i turned the key on today. Everything worked but neutral light didnt come on.
Thinking that it is in gear i pulled in the clutch and cranked it but to my surprise she refused to start.
After cranking 2 3 times i got down to inspect what is wrong and then came a nasty surprise for me.
The wire coming out of stator cover has been chewed off (probably by rats).

Initially i thought of rejoining them on the basis of color codes but later on i found that out of those 6 wires 3 are of black color only which makes it literally impossible to reconnect right wires.

Here is the photo




Now, my concern is that do i have to change the whole stator which isn’t going to be a cheap affair or is there any workaround possible.

Also i have this thing somewhere in my mind that ours is a 3 phase stator and since those 3 wires are color coded similarly they can be connected either way.
Plz help me out

Re: Honda CBR 250R

The wires with the same color code can be connected either way as they are the AC output wires. If you have a multimeter handy you could test continuity, i.e if the black wires are A,B,C then you should be getting continuity between A-B, B-C and A-C.



Thats me checking for continuity between the stator AC wires, I've got only 2 since mines a 2 phase stator.

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Thanks for prompt reply. Yes i have multimeter with me and i tested the continuity between them. All three black wires are having continuity in them. I think it clearly means that those are the alternator output wires coming directly from the stator windings.
Plz correct me if i am wrong on this point.

Earlier i assumed the same thing but was not confident enough to join any of the black wire to another one because any miscalculation might lead to a disaster.