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Thanks a lot for penning down your suggestions... [emoji4]Originally posted by ashwinprakas View PostMy thoughts:
1. YouTube videos are crap, plus with the Internet being dirt cheap in India the number of people posting bullshit is on the rise, the viewers are no better, which is why idiots like Rachamalla and Nikhil have many folds the number of views than someone like Ari Henning, the funny part about this being that Ari can build a CBR250R from scratch whereas the manliest thing you might see the formerly mentioned idiots do is to connect an Aliexpress sourced OBD sensor to their motorcycles.
2. Reliability is a subjective term, as far as my needs i.e touring go anything with pricey spares that are hard to source is less reliable, because of the potential downtime the issue poses. As far as components used in motorcycles Honda and Hero Honda use the most expensive components in general but that doesn't mean that their motorcycles are trouble-free, as every part has a service limit after which it should be serviced/replaced and this depends on the way a motorcycle is set up, anything aggressive as the Pulsar's, Duke's and RTR's and you observe a shorter change interval compared to the lazily tuned motorcycles such as the Unicorn's etc, this doesn't mean that one is more reliable than the other it just means that it is built a particular way that's all. Not leaving that aside there are some components that uniformly face wear i.e the fueling components, control cables, clutch, suspensions components etc, and for anyone who is into touring should change these periodically to avoid an unexpected mishap en route so in that front a Bajaj is practically more reliable than any other motorcycle offered in the market if the intended purpose is reliably covering miles.
3. Pillion comfort is more or less the same on all modern motorcycles, and believe it or not for a veteran motorcyclist, the overall ergonomics is a matter of concern rather than seat foam density. so you could try researching on means to improve the above as per your tastes.
4. Both motorcycles being single cylinders and one being choked leaves no doubts as far as refinement goes, but considering the distance you do it won't make a difference at all, if it does then you need to rework on your mounting skills. What you should be bothered about for a fact as I've mentioned earlier is ergonomics and usable torque, the Dominar offers more useable torque but at the cost of some buzz, and if you've not already noticed, the CBR250R lacks decent oomph down low which is noticeable when you are climbing an incline from standstill with a pillion.
5. 110kmph is not a matter of concern for anything that has over 200cc's irrespective if the state of tune or gearing. As far as stress is concerned I would have advised against anything that has clip ons' but since your travel range is around the 500 km's a day mark it won't make much of a difference.
6. For 2L you could get yourself a Dominar, but for a little more you could get the CBR250R because;
a. Its an International machine meaning the workshop manuals are easily available online, same goes for aftermarket spares.
b. The motor is designed to be robust and has contingencies in place for a few weak spots common to liquid cooled motorcycles, so if something goes bad then you can at least limp back home.
c. The state of tune, being subtle you won't have to be bothered about replacing the head gasket as frequent as you might on the Dominar, and given the right amount of motivation she's got a lot of oomph up top for fun, though periodic replacements are a pain as Honda spares are pricey and harder to source in comparison, and contrary to popular belief there is no difference in quality.
7. Fact be told, tubeless tires are a mere convenience but as far as reliability goes nothing beats tubes and spokes considering Indian road conditions.
8. Consistency matters more than power on paper, presuming that you ride 500 km's a day taking average speed to be 60kmph you would be riding for about 6 hours, so make sure to choose a motorcycle you would be fine with riding for 6 hours at a stretch.
So do think a fair bit before commiting and ride safe!
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I periodically change my tubes and carry 2 spare tubes along with me. The advantage of owning a CT100B is that you can use the same tube for both front and rear tire.Originally posted by leech View PostDo you often carry spare tubes and tools to fix punctures on your tours?
My pleasure mate, happy riding!Originally posted by navin01 View PostThanks a lot for penning down your suggestions... [emoji4]Motorcycling Experience:
2000 ~ 2017 Y2K Kinetic Zoom (Disposed at 15k)
2011 ~ 2015 Hero Honda Karizma R (Sold at 56.5k)
2013 ~ 2014 Bajaj Discover 100 4G (Sold at 16.5k)
2015 ~ 2017 TVS Wego (Totaled at 18k)
2015 - Bajaj Pulsar 220F (Currently 31k) < Garage Queen!
2017 - Bajaj CT100B (Currently 21k) < 'Golden Quadrilateral' Runner!
The Ride was Good, but Life is short, spend it Wisely!
Adios Comrades!
A.P. 2018
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That's not an option for the CBR. However, a broken alloy can't be fixed, so in terms of ruggedness, spokes win. But having to change tubes is a bummer, not to mention the loss of control at high speeds in case of a puncture in a tubed tyre. Many people would gladly choose alloys and tubeless vs spokes and tubes.Originally posted by ashwinprakas View PostI periodically change my tubes and carry 2 spare tubes along with me. The advantage of owning a CT100B is that you can use the same tube for both front and rear tire.
My pleasure mate, happy riding!
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Personal preferences depend on the type of use, for someone who runs a usual circuit a Tubeless Tire would do just fine, but for someone who tours interstate and prefers to maintain an average speed, slowing down for every undulation is strictly out of the question because even if we oversee the risk of having someone ram us from behind there is still a slower average speed to make up for, hence why a good number of tourers prefer to not brake or slow down for potholes or similar undulations and doing so on a tubeless though won't be much of an issue as far as the alloy breaking but would definitely result in considerable air loss or leaking which is something that just cannot be fixed on the side of the road, whereas with Tubes, the possibility of air leak is absolutely ruled out unless you've been a bit lazy with your pre-ride inspections or periodic replacements.Originally posted by leech View PostThat's not an option for the CBR. However, a broken alloy can't be fixed, so in terms of ruggedness, spokes win. But having to change tubes is a bummer, not to mention the loss of control at high speeds in case of a puncture in a tubed tyre. Many people would gladly choose alloys and tubeless vs spokes and tubes.
Now as far as removing and putting on tires/tubes go, it is a skill that gets better with practice, plus using a couple of zip-ties helps get the job done in a matter of minutes. Plus in the event of a puncture, it is easier to find and mend the area of damage and swap tubes, compared to the trial and error you have to do with a tubeless tire, trust me when I say that there are certain cases where in spite of plugging the suspected hole the tire would still lose air at a gradual pace.
Contrary to popular belief a sizeable puncture affects both tubed and tubeless motorcycles alike at speed, with tubeless tires you run the additional risk of the tire blowing out on you which is near impossible to recover from.
Again the P220 runs tubeless and I do ride her just as hard as I ride the CT100B and there is some amounts of air loss faced when riding hard through broken roads;
The video is in slow motion, but observing my front tire would give you an idea of the type of impact we're talking about, I'm the guy who overtakes the vlogger from the right at speed.
But on extended rides say where I'd be riding unknown territories solo, I'd prefer to be on my CT100B over the P220 because all things considered, plugging a tubeless tire is still a temporary fix to get you to the nearest shop whereas a tube replacement is a different case.Motorcycling Experience:
2000 ~ 2017 Y2K Kinetic Zoom (Disposed at 15k)
2011 ~ 2015 Hero Honda Karizma R (Sold at 56.5k)
2013 ~ 2014 Bajaj Discover 100 4G (Sold at 16.5k)
2015 ~ 2017 TVS Wego (Totaled at 18k)
2015 - Bajaj Pulsar 220F (Currently 31k) < Garage Queen!
2017 - Bajaj CT100B (Currently 21k) < 'Golden Quadrilateral' Runner!
The Ride was Good, but Life is short, spend it Wisely!
Adios Comrades!
A.P. 2018
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If one rides with a bit of common sense (correct tire pressures and slowing down during craters and bumps) , and the terrain is the usual roads/highways then a tubeless on an alloy is a non issue. And i agree on the puncture part too, it's a tad bit safer for small/regular punctures compared to a tube counterpart.Originally posted by leech View PostThat's not an option for the CBR. However, a broken alloy can't be fixed, so in terms of ruggedness, spokes win. But having to change tubes is a bummer, not to mention the loss of control at high speeds in case of a puncture in a tubed tyre. Many people would gladly choose alloys and tubeless vs spokes and tubes.
I've ridden along with a few guys (including some from this forum like [MENTION=51754]theironhorse99[/MENTION]) on different bikes (alloys and spokes) along one of the most speed breaker prone roads in KA along the way to Goa from Hyderabad and none of the bikes had an issue with their tires or wheels.
A couple of times have come across flats on an alloy wheel, and the bike could be ridden to the nearest puncture shop a few km away.. of-course slowly. And a tube can also be plonked into a tubeless if required.. and fixing a tubeless puncture is easier with minimal tools.. so i think it's benefits for most folks make it a win.
The other type of tube i have used is the tuff-up tube on my dio from mrf that used to come on the old activa's and dio.. It does seal up small punctures easily.
But hey, when the shit hits the fan you never know, tube or tubeless you might be stranded and need external help
, though it doesn't happen everyday!
So exercise more caution and common sense when out on touring.
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Wire crimping is a common practice. From what I see in the photo, it can be crimped in situ without any dismantling.Originally posted by RedWingRider View PostHello everyone.
Me and my bike are going through their bad times probably.
Previous issues haven’t been sorted out completely and now today i got another shocker.
Just like anyday i turned the key on today. Everything worked but neutral light didnt come on.
Thinking that it is in gear i pulled in the clutch and cranked it but to my surprise she refused to start.
After cranking 2 3 times i got down to inspect what is wrong and then came a nasty surprise for me.
The wire coming out of stator cover has been chewed off (probably by rats).
Initially i thought of rejoining them on the basis of color codes but later on i found that out of those 6 wires 3 are of black color only which makes it literally impossible to reconnect right wires.
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Now, my concern is that do i have to change the whole stator which isn’t going to be a cheap affair or is there any workaround possible.
Also i have this thing somewhere in my mind that ours is a 3 phase stator and since those 3 wires are color coded similarly they can be connected either way.
Plz help me out
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idiotsOriginally posted by alliwanted View PostVery unfortunate time for me. Someone has poked in a stick into the lock set and a piece of it is inside and I am not able to unlock the bike. Please help.
punch them if you find out who did it
see if you can get some tweezers and pull it out. otherwise check out these two videos that show a similar fix.
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Right now I am watching the same video. Thanks.Originally posted by s1d View Post
I feel that by removing the lock set casing I will be able to remove that piece of wood. I will bring my mechanic in morning and hopefully everything goes well.Its not the Bike that makes a Biker perfect, its a Biker who makes his Bike perfect :)
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Originally posted by alliwanted View PostVery unfortunate time for me. Someone has poked in a stick into the lock set and a piece of it is inside and I am not able to unlock the bike.
Please help.
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put a clip from the side so that the key cover moves down and spray some wd40 and gently try to pull the stick out. Also try to twist it clock wise or anti clockwise slowly and gently so it doesnt get stuck inside. it shall come out easy.
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brake pads usually last 18 Km.Originally posted by jatints View PostSomeone help me please?
dont worry about the rubber hood thing. it sometimes dangles. just get it tucked inside on next service....
Originally posted by RedWingRider View PostHello everyone.
Me and my bike are going through their bad times probably.
Previous issues haven’t been sorted out completely and now today i got another shocker.
Now, my concern is that do i have to change the whole stator which isn’t going to be a cheap affair or is there any workaround possible.
Also i have this thing somewhere in my mind that ours is a 3 phase stator and since those 3 wires are color coded similarly they can be connected either way.
Plz help me out
the difficult part is to tow it to the service center post which they can refer to the service manual. open the stator cover and add some wire in it. tape it back and buy some heat shrinks and so you can pack it properly.
if there is a chance take a longer wire so the joints are somewhere tucked under the frame or under thick rubber sheilding."A good long ride can clear your mind, restore your faith, and use up a lot of fuel."
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Such fringe lunatics, ever so present everywhere. Unfortunately. Though, it can be take to a locksmith to get the things done. Purely on a give it a try basis, if you have sharp tweezers, they can be used to eek out the small stuck wood piece. Usually, the broken piece is a solid piece. Though some dexterity might be required, if you can get hold of a tweezer pointed enough with good surface area, you can easily eek it out. I'd suggest you give this method a try.Originally posted by alliwanted View PostVery unfortunate time for me. Someone has poked in a stick into the lock set and a piece of it is inside and I am not able to unlock the bike.
Please help.
Do keep your observations posted.
Cheers!
VJ
Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
The girl said, 'NO!'
And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.
THE END
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Can anyone tell me, what's the status of the shim issue that the CBR riders used to face? Is it rectified in the recent iterations of the CBR? And are there any such significant niggles / issues that I need to know before I finalise the bike?
Also, can anyone share the pdf of the Indian CBR250R user manual? I searched and the one I got seems to be the service manual. Would be great the more up to date it is. Want to go through it before I decide on the CBRLast edited by icarious; 08-15-2018, 04:43 AM.Suzuki Gixxer SF Rear Disc + Carburettor Red (28th October, 2016-Present),
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Rosy has repaired thanks to Dr. He bought a dilutant which made the piece of wood thin and then using a sharp teeth stick we took it out. Still the lock is not totally free but it's working and I am able to lock and unlock.
I was afraid of removing the entire lockset if things wouldn't have gone right. But a Dr. is a Dr.
One thing I wanted to ask is why cbr250r lockset is so expensive?Its not the Bike that makes a Biker perfect, its a Biker who makes his Bike perfect :)
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