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  • Re: Honda CBR 250R

    Originally posted by Sid85 View Post
    My bike's engine oil is leaking. I just got an engine oil change 2000kms ago. It happened before as well. Is there any permanent soulution to this issue?
    Is it a leak from the engine head ? or from the drain bolt nut area or some other place ? Head leaks are mainly caused by busted gaskets, can be solved by replacing the gaskets, for a more permanent fix gasket sealants can be used, but then removing the head for any work can get a bit tough and messy.

    For drain bolt area, try changing the drain bolt washer and check if the leak is plugged, if not, might be because of thread slipping and you might have to get some work done there.

    Cheers
    Ride Safe
    Krishna
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    • Re: Honda CBR 250R

      Originally posted by Sid85 View Post
      My bike's engine oil is leaking. I just got an engine oil change 2000kms ago. It happened before as well. Is there any permanent soulution to this issue?
      Could be a gasket leak. I face the same problem after my 2nd servicing.

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      • Re: Honda CBR 250R

        Originally posted by krish2778 View Post
        Well then, if color is not a such deciding factor, you can go ahead with the tri-color edition.

        Cheers
        Ride Safe
        Krishna
        They've asked for time till Wednesday to arrange the bike, have no choice but to wait.

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        • Re: Honda CBR 250R

          Originally posted by krish2778 View Post
          Why was the oil filter not changed ? The oil filter should be changed with each oil change, especially the first oil change.
          I would suggest you go back and make them change the oil filter.

          Did they talk you out of changing it ? Then they have tricked you.


          Cheers
          Ride Safe
          Krishna
          no it was changed last time. He said, its all right, we will change next time. They even have it in stock. I dont understand why. Anyways, I will chance it soon. Wont it be a problem, replacing the filter, with engine oil still in the engine? Or they need to drain?
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          • Honda CBR 250R

            Originally posted by sambit View Post
            no it was changed last time. He said, its all right, we will change next time. They even have it in stock. I dont understand why. Anyways, I will chance it soon. Wont it be a problem, replacing the filter, with engine oil still in the engine? Or they need to drain?
            Oil filter needs to be changed every alternative oil change starting from 1st service. If it was changed last time, u need not get it changed again. Owners manual clearly states so. U can change the oil filter without fully draining the oil by tilting you bike to it's left while changing the filter.


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            • Re: Honda CBR 250R

              Originally posted by krish2778 View Post
              Is it a leak from the engine head ? or from the drain bolt nut area or some other place ? Head leaks are mainly caused by busted gaskets, can be solved by replacing the gaskets, for a more permanent fix gasket sealants can be used, but then removing the head for any work can get a bit tough and messy.

              For drain bolt area, try changing the drain bolt washer and check if the leak is plugged, if not, might be because of thread slipping and you might have to get some work done there.

              Cheers
              Ride Safe
              Krishna
              I think it the drain bolt issue. The cowl below the engine is oiled. No oil on the crankcase though. Will visit svc tommorow.
              Siddhartha
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              CBR250R(2012)....


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              • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                Originally posted by sambit View Post
                no it was changed last time. He said, its all right, we will change next time. They even have it in stock. I dont understand why. Anyways, I will chance it soon. Wont it be a problem, replacing the filter, with engine oil still in the engine? Or they need to drain?
                Originally posted by samarth14feb View Post
                Oil filter needs to be changed every alternative oil change starting from 1st service. If it was changed last time, u need not get it changed again. Owners manual clearly states so. U can change the oil filter without fully draining the oil by tilting you bike to it's left while changing the filter.


                I make it a point to change the filter each time, think about it , once you use the new oil for 6k kms the oil is dirty and the filter has done its job quite well for the 6k kms and then you change the oil, about 200ml of oil is still there in the filter part, which is this dirty oil, now when you pout new oill without changing the old filter, the new oil is just getting contaminated with the gunk that is there in the old filter and the supposedly fresh oil which is to run for the next 6k kms is already dirty.

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                Originally posted by Sid85 View Post
                I think it the drain bolt issue. The cowl below the engine is oiled. No oil on the crankcase though. Will visit svc tommorow.
                Drain bolt leaks are nasty, if a washer change cannot plug it then it gets to be a pain in the arse.

                P.s: 3rd free service over, replaced the air filter, oil, oil filter. I had this problem of oil leaking from the dip stick area, because of the oil seal getting damaged, changed that as well..

                Now she is done 12k in 6 months, last few months seeing almost very less riding.

                Cheers
                Ride Safe
                Krishna
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                • Honda CBR 250R

                  Originally posted by krish2778 View Post
                  make it a point to change the filter each time, think about it , once you use the new oil for 6k kms the oil is dirty and the filter has done its job quite well for the 6k kms and then you change the oil, about 200ml of oil is still there in the filter part, which is this dirty oil, now when you pout new oill without changing the old filter, the new oil is just getting contaminated with the gunk that is there in the old filter and the supposedly fresh oil which is to run for the next 6k kms is already dirty.

                  Cheers
                  Ride Safe
                  Krishna
                  You are theoretically correct. But I trust the R&D capabilities of honda. I am sure they would never do anything that would harm the life of an engine. Yes old oil filter does contain used oil and some metal particals , but it is designed in such a way that they don't enter back Into the oil. Now v think of it , there are vehicles without oil filters which are doing well too ! Like the zma.



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                  CBR250r :) <11/2011 to 2017> Sold
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                  Bajaj Pulsar 180 UG3 <2007 to 09> Sold
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                  • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                    Originally posted by samarth14feb View Post
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                    Oy, where did my comment go ??


                    Ok, so here is what i had written for that tag.

                    I make it a point to replace the oil filter each time because, after 6k kms the filter has done its job it has all the gunk and dust or dirt particles that it has filtered, and also when you do not change the oil filter close to 150ml or so of old oil is also left behind. Now when you pour the new oil in which is to live for another 6k kms, what happens is that the new oil gets mixed up with this old 6k kms oil which is near to 150 ml and it gets contaminated, and now this new oil is to be filtered by the same old oil filter which has done its job nicely for the last 6k kms and has all the gunk and dust particles in them, so basically what happens is when you try to filter the oil, it is actually just getting mixed with the old dust and gunk.

                    This is why i always insist the svc guys to change the filter each time i change the oil.

                    Cheers
                    Ride Safe
                    Krishna
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                    ulsar 220F
                    |2013 Honda CBR250R|KTM Duke390|Yamaha R3|Yamaha R1|Triumph Tiger XRX

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                    • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                      HI

                      yes sure ZMA has a mesh type 'Filter' but still that also needs to be cleaned periodically. other wise the new oil will need to dissolve the particle on the Mesh filter and new dirt also. on a filter type if not replaced then old filter 1st is oil will get bypassed by the filter and keep collecting dust till it saturates earlier than usual.


                      Also try a vehicle with old oil filter and new oil see the range and how bike feels to ride, then try the same with new oil and oil filter. there is a big difference in overall performance. the Mechanic is the one telling us no need since it is a easy fix for him/her to complete the days service out put quota.

                      See the Manual it will state replace place oil and Oil filter for every oil replacement service.



                      Originally posted by samarth14feb View Post
                      You are theoretically correct. But I trust the R&D capabilities of honda. I am sure they would never do anything that would harm the life of an engine. Yes old oil filter does contain used oil and some metal particals , but it is designed in such a way that they don't enter back Into the oil. Now v think of it , there are vehicles without oil filters which are doing well too ! Like the zma.



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                      • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                        Just a query from above post. Do you change oil only after 6K or top up at certain intervals.
                        One FZ guy out here changes engine oil after 4/5K and top up oil after each 1K or so. Is it correct for CBR too ?

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                        • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                          Originally posted by krish2778 View Post
                          Oy, where did my comment go ??


                          Ok, so here is what i had written for that tag.

                          I make it a point to replace the oil filter each time because, after 6k kms the filter has done its job it has all the gunk and dust or dirt particles that it has filtered, and also when you do not change the oil filter close to 150ml or so of old oil is also left behind. Now when you pour the new oil in which is to live for another 6k kms, what happens is that the new oil gets mixed up with this old 6k kms oil which is near to 150 ml and it gets contaminated, and now this new oil is to be filtered by the same old oil filter which has done its job nicely for the last 6k kms and has all the gunk and dust particles in them, so basically what happens is when you try to filter the oil, it is actually just getting mixed with the old dust and gunk.

                          This is why i always insist the svc guys to change the filter each time i change the oil.

                          Cheers
                          Ride Safe
                          Krishna
                          In that case you surely must have got the oil filter screen cleaned, how clogged was it?
                          Last edited by nsengg; 04-14-2014, 05:26 PM.

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                          • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                            Originally posted by samarth14feb View Post
                            You are theoretically correct. But I trust the R&D capabilities of honda. I am sure they would never do anything that would harm the life of an engine. Yes old oil filter does contain used oil and some metal particals , but it is designed in such a way that they don't enter back Into the oil. Now v think of it , there are vehicles without oil filters which are doing well too ! Like the zma.



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                            The svc mechs saying no need to replace is a different story, it is less work for them and also stock of spares stays intact. Even about written in the manual, the proper way of doing is this. The filter gets dirty, then it's filtering efficiency is lowered considerably, no the filter is designed not to let the dirt out or not. If you have a filter doing overtime work you know it is bound to get nasty, just take into consideration the water filters materials, would you take the risk of maintaining the same filter just because company says so , or would you change it when you feel it has done enough filtering with the current one and it's efficiency has gone for a toss.

                            And about vehicles without oil filter , take the pulsars for example, it has a centrifugal oil filter and not exactly a "filter" element, so naturally the manual says nothing about cleaning it, but during periodic services, people who know about it get the clutch assembly area opened and get the filtering area thoroughly cleaned.

                            Originally posted by hypheni View Post
                            Just a query from above post. Do you change oil only after 6K or top up at certain intervals.
                            One FZ guy out here changes engine oil after 4/5K and top up oil after each 1K or so. Is it correct for CBR too ?
                            Mate, about refilling, it all depends, if you find a small drop in the level of oil you may refill. Depending on the running conditions the fully synthetic oil tends to "disappear" in many cases like heavy traffic riding conditions , so on and so forth. So keeping an eye on the oil level and topping up when necessary is a good thing.

                            Originally posted by nsengg View Post
                            In that case you surely must have got the oil filter screen cleaned, how clogged was it?
                            Not sure what you meant by oil filter screen, but let me just take a guess, if it is the oil stained in the drain bolt area, then yes, it was removed and cleaned thoroughly, and so was the whole area of the oil filter, the oil was drained, the filter area was opened, cleaned out, filter replaces, the filter cap seals replaced and filter cap cleaned and new filter dipped in fresh oil and put back in.
                            I never take chances and never let it get clogged, as i make it a point that all these things are done every 5k kms (Yes, i get it changed every 5k kms.)

                            Cheers
                            Ride Safe
                            Krishna
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                            |2013 Honda CBR250R|KTM Duke390|Yamaha R3|Yamaha R1|Triumph Tiger XRX

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                            • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                              Is there truth to the fact that the red ABS model only comes in the red-silver colour combination? The dealer is telling me that the full red colour is only available in the STD model and that honda only makes the red-silver colour in ABS.

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                              • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                                Originally posted by rbhasin11 View Post
                                Is there truth to the fact that the red ABS model only comes in the red-silver colour combination? The dealer is telling me that the full red colour is only available in the STD model and that honda only makes the red-silver colour in ABS.

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                                The honda website lists both abs and non-abs for the full red bike.
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