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  • Re: Honda CBR 250R

    Originally posted by theironhorse99 View Post
    i have had numerous instances like this with the cbr in past 20,000 km's...

    headlight switch...
    sudden no electricals..
    no turning on..
    sputtering and then went dead like no fuel and back on as normal as ever before....

    headlight switch is still twitchy.. i tortured it so much thats its back to its normal functionality..

    sometimes the bike would stall midway and would not power-on.. nutin that bugged me...

    answer :: give it a few seconds ... powe off everything.. remove the key.. let the poor lady relax for say 10 seconds.. give it a second shot and viola....

    if you get sudden engine dies and wont start.. pull the accelerater like we used to do in 2 strokers and then gun the starter.. it will bring it back to life withing 3 seconds..


    and yes i have had that same freak case where i rode 30km in dark on High beam with the pass light switch pressed all the way

    Lol...so it is some kind of paranormal activity..eh ? :-P

    Anyway , even i was about to ride with the pass switch pressed, it is when i started doing htat and left the pass switch i found the headlights were working fine..!! :-P

    Cheers
    Ride safe
    Krishna
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    • Re: Honda CBR 250R

      Originally posted by krish2778 View Post
      Lol...so it is some kind of paranormal activity..eh ? :-P

      Anyway , even i was about to ride with the pass switch pressed, it is when i started doing htat and left the pass switch i found the headlights were working fine..!! :-P

      Cheers
      Ride safe
      Krishna

      tie a black thread..
      break a coconut..
      avoid riding n saturday's
      donate a lot of money.
      wear saffron cloth.
      avoid perfume, deo and talcum powder.
      do pooja archana.. ( pooja n archana both .. same time )
      "A good long ride can clear your mind, restore your faith, and use up a lot of fuel."

      RE Bullet 1977 - Current
      RX-100 1995 - Current
      CBZ Classic 2003 - Current
      Activa 2004 - Current
      CBR 250R 2012 - Current
      Ninja 650 2013 - Current.

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      • Re: Honda CBR 250R

        Originally posted by theironhorse99 View Post
        tie a black thread..
        break a coconut..
        avoid riding n saturday's
        donate a lot of money.
        wear saffron cloth.
        avoid perfume, deo and talcum powder.
        do pooja archana.. ( pooja n archana both .. same time )

        Oh my god..!!! So much expenses..!!!:-P I think i'll get another bike..!! :-P

        Cheers
        Ride Safe
        Krishna
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        Run-in Procedure | Power Loss Solutions | Riding Gears 101 | Biking Brotherhood

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        ulsar 220F
        |2013 Honda CBR250R|KTM Duke390|Yamaha R3|Yamaha R1|Triumph Tiger XRX

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        • Re: Honda CBR 250R

          Originally posted by krish2778 View Post
          Lol...so it is some kind of paranormal activity..eh ? :-P

          Anyway , even i was about to ride with the pass switch pressed, it is when i started doing htat and left the pass switch i found the headlights were working fine..!! :-P

          Cheers
          Ride safe
          Krishna
          Sounds like rust deposition inside the terminals of switch gears to me.

          Spray penetrating fluid like WD 40/Zorrik 88 into the switch gears liberally. Give 5 - 10 mins and then while the ignition key is switched off go back and forth with the switches from OFF to ON position many times.. repeat it atleast 10 -20 times. After that ride your bike.. i am sure the problem will be solved.

          Also make sure that you switch between the two key sets provided along with your bike. This will allow even wear between the both.


          Cheers,
          A quote by a toilet, " use me well, keep me clean, i would never tell anybody whatever i have seen.." :P

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          • Re: Honda CBR 250R

            Originally posted by krish2778 View Post
            Guys, yesterday evening about 6.30 I had the weirdest electrical issue I have ever faced on any bike and this is the second only issue I have faced with the CBR.
            So here goes, I started riding at 6pm, all the electrical were fine, the pilot lamps were on, horns and indicators working fine , and no isues at all, the display brightness also was just fine.
            Noe by 6.30 when it got dark, i pushed the button to headlights ON, but the light wouldn't come on, the pilot lamps are working but the headlights wouldn't come on. Tried toggling the high beam switch into high beam mode, it wouldn't work, even the high beam blue indicator on the console wasn't coming on.
            So now i am stuck at night time with no headlights, tricky situation.
            So i press the pass switch and the high beam works fine, even the high beam indicator is working, once i release the pass switch , its back to darkness, mind you the headlight switch is ON all this time.
            Now i just give it a try and press and hold the pass switch for 3-4 seconds and release it, now the high beam is working fine, i double checked to see if it was not the pass switch was stuck or not, it wasn't, now it was really the high beam was working, so i ruled out bulb fusing problem since it was working.

            Now i toggle to low beam , but it doesn't work, toggle back to high beam again its a no show, repeat the pass switch manuvoer for 3-4 seconds, the high beam starts working again.

            So i set for home since at least the high beam is working and i did not want to take risk and get stranded without light.

            Now after some time, I have to stop again, so i try it again, this time also the light are a no-go, the pass switch maneuver manages to get the high beam working, but this time the low beam also worked on toggling the switch , so now i even ruled out low beam being fused out.

            But still the problem is that the headlight switch doesn't activate the lights, instead i need to hold on to the pass switch for a few seconds to activate the light.

            Now then , Next stop I stop the bike for about 15-20 minutes, meeting with a friend, i explained the issue to him and we both are equally puzzled, and now after this break, I tried the headlight switch, but this time is decides to work fine without any issues, just like how it should, did not need the pass switch to activate the lights.

            From that time onwards , i tried stopping multiple times and trying to check if the problem is recurring, but it was working fine every time after that.
            So, now i am left totally stupefied, with no idea what was going on with the electrical s.
            Now all the other electrical functions were working without any problem.

            Now, my question, has anybody faced such a freak occurrence before ? And what do you guys think about it ?

            Wiring harness problem ? or anything similar ?


            Cheers
            Ride Safe
            Krishna
            I am facing the exact same issue for past two days. will take it to honda tomorow to get it checked.
            [email protected]

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            • Re: Honda CBR 250R

              Originally posted by techfreak View Post
              That's really a strange case.
              I had one such freak issue at about 4k on odo. I was going from Bangalore to Coimbatore had taken a break at Salem and started at about 8 30 pm and was about 25km short . All was fine. Suddenly the bike stopped.. The engine just switched off. I was like what the hell. Tried the starter, it used to crank but engine won't come to life. Checked the wires etc for any external damage but nothing amiss. Being night and seeing a line soul struggling with a heavily loaded bike few cars stopped to help but no one knew a thing ABOUT CBR then Aug 2011. Finally I gave up and started calling my office to arrange for alternate transport for me as well as the bike. In between had another gap on the starter and voila the bike started as if nothing had happened. After that there was no more drama and I reached home.
              Next day went to the service center told them the problem but on checking all was fine.


              Sent from my A250 using Tapatalk
              Same thing happened to me some days back, only the indicator was on
              " life is boring. its static, monotonous and depressing. At least up until i flip the switch and press the starter, that's when i go...OH BABY!"

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              • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                Originally posted by pranjal chakraborty View Post
                I am facing the exact same issue for past two days. will take it to honda tomorow to get it checked.
                Originally posted by zaf7ant View Post
                Same thing happened to me some days back, only the indicator was on
                Originally posted by krish2778 View Post
                Oh my god..!!! So much expenses..!!!:-P I think i'll get another bike..!! :-P

                Cheers
                Ride Safe
                Krishna
                Originally posted by krish2778 View Post
                Lol...so it is some kind of paranormal activity..eh ? :-P

                Anyway , even i was about to ride with the pass switch pressed, it is when i started doing htat and left the pass switch i found the headlights were working fine..!! :-P

                Cheers
                Ride safe
                Krishna
                i can assure you its paranormal for sure... whats the point of going to SVC when its caused by something out of the world..
                watch the skies. if you spot any UFO else any banyan tree.. we will have to do a group ride in midnight and pray . this will solve
                all the issue. worst case we might need to do so some sacrifice as a ritual and sprinkle holy water over the bike and make it take rounds of the holy fire
                put a loudspeaker that can make people go deaf and chant mantras all day long.....

                we are in India.. how can we talk logical stuff..
                Last edited by theironhorse99; 04-18-2014, 06:42 PM.
                "A good long ride can clear your mind, restore your faith, and use up a lot of fuel."

                RE Bullet 1977 - Current
                RX-100 1995 - Current
                CBZ Classic 2003 - Current
                Activa 2004 - Current
                CBR 250R 2012 - Current
                Ninja 650 2013 - Current.

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                • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                  Originally posted by shv18 View Post
                  Sounds like rust deposition inside the terminals of switch gears to me.

                  Spray penetrating fluid like WD 40/Zorrik 88 into the switch gears liberally. Give 5 - 10 mins and then while the ignition key is switched off go back and forth with the switches from OFF to ON position many times.. repeat it atleast 10 -20 times. After that ride your bike.. i am sure the problem will be solved.

                  Also make sure that you switch between the two key sets provided along with your bike. This will allow even wear between the both.


                  Cheers,
                  WD40, yes, i have ran out of it. Seems it is time to get a new bottle.

                  Shiv, tell me one thing, does it make any difference ? Using the other key or not ?



                  Originally posted by theironhorse99 View Post
                  i can assure you its paranormal for sure... whats the point of going to SVC when its caused by something out of the world..
                  watch the skies. if you spot any UFO else any banyan tree.. we will have to do a group ride in midnight and pray . this will solve
                  all the issue. worst case we might need to do so some sacrifice as a ritual and sprinkle holy water over the bike and make it take rounds of the holy fire
                  put a loudspeaker that can make people go deaf and chant mantras all day long.....

                  we are in India.. how can we talk logical stuff..

                  Lol, this is getting fun..!!

                  Logic ? what do you mean ? never heard of that intriguing word..!! Surely it must be evil..!!

                  Cheers
                  Ride Safe
                  Krishna
                  --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

                  Run-in Procedure | Power Loss Solutions | Riding Gears 101 | Biking Brotherhood

                  P
                  ulsar 220F
                  |2013 Honda CBR250R|KTM Duke390|Yamaha R3|Yamaha R1|Triumph Tiger XRX

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                  • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                    Originally posted by krish2778 View Post
                    WD40, yes, i have ran out of it. Seems it is time to get a new bottle.

                    Shiv, tell me one thing, does it make any difference ? Using the other key or not ?

                    using both keys will keep the lock also intact for longer duration. while we might loose or render the first key useless the new key gets issues being back to original shape
                    as the lock and the first key both get worn out over the time. using both keys time to time will extend this period. nutin serious but can be done..
                    yes its oxidation over the copper contacts and with rains coming i am sure some moisture did the trick..



                    Lol, this is getting fun..!!

                    Logic ? what do you mean ? never heard of that intriguing word..!! Surely it must be evil..!!

                    it was pun intended about going to SVC as being logical the correct step is to get it checked from the correct guy
                    like for illness we go see a doc however being india someone might even suggest some "baba" for " buri nazar"
                    however how bout buying" nazar suraksha kawach"

                    slogging all day at work.. some fun is mandatory..


                    Cheers
                    Ride Safe
                    Krishna
                    replies in bold
                    "A good long ride can clear your mind, restore your faith, and use up a lot of fuel."

                    RE Bullet 1977 - Current
                    RX-100 1995 - Current
                    CBZ Classic 2003 - Current
                    Activa 2004 - Current
                    CBR 250R 2012 - Current
                    Ninja 650 2013 - Current.

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                    • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                      Originally posted by theironhorse99 View Post
                      sometimes the bike would stall midway and would not power-on.. nutin that bugged me...

                      answer :: give it a few seconds ... powe off everything.. remove the key.. let the poor lady relax for say 10 seconds.. give it a second shot and viola....
                      It happens to me occasionally: She refuses to start in gear when I pull in the clutch and thumb the starter - especially when I stop at signals and turn off the ignition when the bike is in gear.
                      Answer: Release the clutch. Gently half-pull the clutch - not more than a couple of millimeters. Now thumb the starter. Off you go!

                      Biking is not about how many Km/h you put on your Speedo. It's about how many miles you put on your Odo. Ride Safe, Ride Long!

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                      • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                        Originally posted by bbsrailfan View Post
                        It happens to me occasionally: She refuses to start in gear when I pull in the clutch and thumb the starter - especially when I stop at signals and turn off the ignition when the bike is in gear.
                        Answer: Release the clutch. Gently half-pull the clutch - not more than a couple of millimeters. Now thumb the starter. Off you go!
                        Are you trying to say that sometimes the vehicle doesn't start while in gear and then you apply this method? If so then i feel the clutch switch needs to be inspected and replaced if necessary. The same issues have been witnessed by a lot of KTM owners and this is the simplest solution for the same.
                        [MENTION=35815]krish2778[/MENTION] yep ironhorse is right switching between the keysets increases the life of all the mentioned parts and lesser hassle for you in the long run.


                        Cheers,
                        A quote by a toilet, " use me well, keep me clean, i would never tell anybody whatever i have seen.." :P

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                        • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                          Have never faced the issue of bike not starting with a single crank, except once, where I had to switch the engine kill switch off and on again.
                          Ok, for the first time I reached 150 kmph speedo. Though don't know what percent of speedo error is present in CBR. But it was rock stable all the way.
                          HH Dawn - TVS Star City - Yamaha Gladiator - TVS RTR 180 - Honda CBR 250R - Yamaha R3

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                          • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                            Originally posted by theironhorse99 View Post
                            replies in bold
                            Haha..!! Why not..!! Indeed we all need some humor daily to vent off the office pressure..!! :-D

                            Originally posted by shv18 View Post
                            Are you trying to say that sometimes the vehicle doesn't start while in gear and then you apply this method? If so then i feel the clutch switch needs to be inspected and replaced if necessary. The same issues have been witnessed by a lot of KTM owners and this is the simplest solution for the same.
                            @krish2778 yep ironhorse is right switching between the keysets increases the life of all the mentioned parts and lesser hassle for you in the long run.


                            Cheers,

                            Shiv, yes, i read his reply, and will swap keys and use , just in case, I haven't used the second key till now.

                            Cheers
                            Ride Safe
                            Krishna
                            --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

                            Run-in Procedure | Power Loss Solutions | Riding Gears 101 | Biking Brotherhood

                            P
                            ulsar 220F
                            |2013 Honda CBR250R|KTM Duke390|Yamaha R3|Yamaha R1|Triumph Tiger XRX

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                            • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                              Originally posted by bbsrailfan View Post
                              It happens to me occasionally: She refuses to start in gear when I pull in the clutch and thumb the starter - especially when I stop at signals and turn off the ignition when the bike is in gear.
                              Answer: Release the clutch. Gently half-pull the clutch - not more than a couple of millimeters. Now thumb the starter. Off you go!

                              I dont think its the clutch switch. With the clutch switch gone it doesnt even crank whether it is half clutch or you press it full.

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                              • Re: Honda CBR 250R

                                @bbsrailfan: The same issue has been also spotted in the international CBR 250R forum: Bike refuses to start in gear with clutch lever pressed - Honda CBR250R Forum : Honda CBR 250 Forums

                                Based on the feedback of users there the only possible culprit is clutch switch. All the symptoms mentioned by you looks to be pointing towards it.

                                Sometimes when the clutch switch is loose, at times it gets engaged and at times it doesn't get pressed fully. As a result, the vehicle doesn't start when in gear. This may become more prominent if one uses aftermarket adjustable levers and the clutch switch is not positioned correctly.

                                The "Juggad" technique you mentioned is correct where if one faces this issue, priming the clutch once or twice and then trying to start will work most of the times. I feel since, clutch switch is an inexpensive item, you may get it checked once. It might just need a slight re-alignment that's all.

                                Hope this helps

                                Cheers
                                Last edited by shv18; 04-18-2014, 10:20 PM. Reason: corrections
                                A quote by a toilet, " use me well, keep me clean, i would never tell anybody whatever i have seen.." :P

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