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**theironhorse99** · 04-22-2014, 03:50 PM

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Originally posted by tensor View Post

I am yet to look at manual, and ask service folks here.

If I may ask, does passing light work when headlamp is already on hight beam?

I don't notice anything. If that's by design I am ok with that. If it's not, I would get it looked at.

Thanks

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pass light is nothing but quick access to High Beam.. so if you already running with high beam so wont notice any change.

Originally posted by saikarthik View Post

Did you get any issues with increasing wattage of the bulb??? i.e, Headlight lens discolouring of softening kind off??

wattage of bulb is not increased with by philips Extreme/diamond vision or by Osram Night Breakers. both are OEM specifications 55/60w.
and infact cheaper than original honda bulb..

Osram NB cost 1050/1100 for a pair..
Philips - not sure
Oem Honda- 7xx each.

Originally posted by sambit View Post

Touched 150 on a newly build flyover. Couldnt click in time though.

good going... uphill or downhill ??

click ?? you sure you wanna do that at 150kmph... we believe you...

**saikarthik** · 04-22-2014, 04:03 PM

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Originally posted by theironhorse99 View Post

wattage of bulb is not increased with by philips Extreme/diamond vision or by Osram Night Breakers. both are OEM specifications 55/60w.
and infact cheaper than original honda bulb..

Osram NB cost 1050/1100 for a pair..
Philips - not sure
Oem Honda- 7xx each.

My bad!!, Sorry was thinking of HS1 bulb instead of H4.. yup wattage doesn't increase.. But there is a life - Lumen balance in bulbs, you get more illumination and you lose life & Vice versa..
So will wait until some one puts up life of night breaker/extreme vision.

**sambit** · 04-22-2014, 04:03 PM

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Originally posted by theironhorse99 View Post

good going... uphill or downhill ??

click ?? you sure you wanna do that at 150kmph... we believe you...

LOL. Uphill!!!
It was straight road actually. Seriously I never expected it to touch 150. Have done it twice, bt impossible to click at the speed. Till 140, you dont need to duck.
One thing I forgot to check, if I was against the wind or with it.
Any ways, whats the Speedo error in CBR? Any idea? And the speedo reading was going like this:141-143-145-147-150. I hate it when speedo misses the numbers. ��

**theironhorse99** · 04-22-2014, 04:07 PM

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Originally posted by saikarthik View Post

My bad!!, Sorry was thinking of HS1 bulb instead of H4.. yup wattage doesn't increase.. But there is a life - Lumen balance in bulbs, you get more illumination and you lose life & Vice versa..
So will wait until some one puts up life of night breaker/extreme vision.

have been using Osram NB since first week i got the bike. no issues yet. 21k+ done and on regular basis half commuting is in Dark.
if it last 2 years as well i dont mind that 550 bucks i spent. beam spread is better than honda OEM.

Originally posted by sambit View Post

LOL. Uphill!!!
It was straight road actually. Seriously I never expected it to touch 150. Have done it twice, bt impossible to click at the speed. Till 140, you dont need to duck.
One thing I forgot to check, if I was against the wind or with it.
Any ways, whats the Speedo error in CBR? Any idea? And the speedo reading was going like this:141-143-145-147-150. I hate it when speedo misses the numbers. ��

said to be 7% speedo error in Asian models while American Mph speedo's are said to be more accurate or say with 2-3% speedo error.
i did speed runs a few times and yes 140 is each. i am 5.11" and 80kg average.beyond 145 in heavy cross winds it took its own sweet time.. but i crossed 150kmph on speedo though never touched 160 as few FM's quoted..

**saikarthik** · 04-22-2014, 04:11 PM

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Originally posted by theironhorse99 View Post

replies in bold..
FE is same or say a little bit more as the dunlop has more rounder profile or maybe my placebo effect but touch wood relieved of those unwanted cracks and fissures coming now and then...

Damn correct, FE is way better in Dunlop compared to shitty conti.. I managed to check 3 times FE while doing a 1000 km run to shimla, i got 30 kmpl avg. on all kinds of roads (Patchy,sandy pot holed haryana roads --> beautiful highways of punjab --> curvy roads(ghats) of shimla )..

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Originally posted by sambit View Post

Any ways, whats the Speedo error in CBR? Any idea? And the speedo reading was going like this:141-143-145-147-150. I hate it when speedo misses the numbers. ��

You could use a GPS App on your phone to calculate error of your speedo.. but you need an accurate app for that.

CAUTION - Do it on open safe roads & around good cruising speeds kept constant.

**techfreak** · 04-22-2014, 04:21 PM

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Originally posted by saikarthik View Post

My bad!!, Sorry was thinking of HS1 bulb instead of H4.. yup wattage doesn't increase.. But there is a life - Lumen balance in bulbs, you get more illumination and you lose life & Vice versa..
So will wait until some one puts up life of night breaker/extreme vision.

I am using Osram Night Breaker since last two years on my CBR.
Illumination is better than stock but not by a great margin.
If you want good light you got to change over to bixenon projector set up.
In fact I am planning to do so myself as soon as I get time.

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**saikarthik** · 04-22-2014, 04:22 PM

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Originally posted by techfreak View Post

set up.
In fact I am planning to do so myself as soon as I get time.

Bro, not legal !!!

**techfreak** · 04-22-2014, 04:25 PM

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Originally posted by saikarthik View Post

Bro, not legal !!!

No, using HID without a projector may be illegal but I think there is no embargo on using a projector set up with HID lamp.
There are bikes which come factory fitted with projector lamps.. Pulsar 220 for example.

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**saikarthik** · 04-22-2014, 04:28 PM

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Originally posted by techfreak View Post

No, using HID without a projector may be illegal but I think there is no embargo on using a projector set up with HID lamp.

bro, My job is lighting development in a OE company (see my profile), & regulations strictly prohibits change of even bulb/construction or any mod, without approval..

**prateek2210** · 04-22-2014, 04:30 PM

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Originally posted by techfreak View Post

No, using HID without a projector may be.........

Anything above 4300k (Kelvin) is illegal.

**techfreak** · 04-22-2014, 04:33 PM

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Originally posted by saikarthik View Post

bro, My job is lighting development in a OE company (see my profile), & regulations strictly prohibits change of even bulb/construction or any mod, without approval..

Yes you are right on that buddy.
Modifying anything from stock is illegal as per rule.
But I do feel light to be inadequate on highway at night. So planning this change.
If a Pulsar with projector is not stopped by cops then I am sure they will let me ride with the mod.
As such I plan to go for a 4200k bulb not the white kind of show light meant for bling factor.
But I do agree going off from stock without approval is illegal.

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**saikarthik** · 04-22-2014, 04:39 PM

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Originally posted by techfreak View Post

If a Pulsar with projector is not stopped by cops then I am sure they will let me ride with the mod.

You can for better illumination, cops don't know much of rules in 1st place..
Also always they know only one rule, Stop-->attend-->go!

Also take care when choosing bulb, color temperature (above 4000k), light goes bluish ang eyes will feel more fatigue on long rides..

**sambit** · 04-22-2014, 04:49 PM

Re: Honda CBR 250R

Originally posted by theironhorse99 View Post

said to be 7% speedo error in Asian models while American Mph speedo's are said to be more accurate or say with 2-3% speedo error.
i did speed runs a few times and yes 140 is each. i am 5.11" and 80kg average.beyond 145 in heavy cross winds it took its own sweet time.. but i crossed 150kmph on speedo though never touched 160 as few FM's quoted..

Originally posted by saikarthik View Post

Damn correct, FE is way better in Dunlop...

You could use a GPS App on your phone to calculate error of your speedo.. but you need an accurate app for that.

CAUTION - Do it on open safe roads & around good cruising speeds kept constant.

Had checked my RTR with Nokia Lumia GPS. RTR's 130kmph speedo=125 GPS.
Don't know how reliable is that GPS though.
Talking about FE, my bike's worst FE is 30 kmpl. Stays around 33-34 kmpl in normal riding. I top up the tank weekly and measure regularly.

**Mail2vasant** · 04-22-2014, 05:09 PM

Re: Honda CBR 250R

I recorded 150kmph on gps when speedo was showing 151kmph. I am not sure how accurate both are??

**tensor** · 04-22-2014, 08:06 PM

Thanks. It makes sense.

Looks like my unicorn worked differently. Even on high beam, passing light switch would make hand-lamp brighter.

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Originally posted by theironhorse99 View Post

pass light is nothing but quick access to High Beam.. so if you already running with high beam so wont notice any change.

wattage of bulb is not increased with by philips Extreme/diamond vision or by Osram Night Breakers. both are OEM specifications 55/60w.
and infact cheaper than original honda bulb..

Osram NB cost 1050/1100 for a pair..
Philips - not sure
Oem Honda- 7xx each.

good going... uphill or downhill ??

click ?? you sure you wanna do that at 150kmph... we believe you...

Makes sense. Looks like my unicorn has been doing it differently. Even on high beam, passing light switch would make headlamp brighter. I got used to of that, and started expecting the same with cbr.

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Originally posted by krish2778 View Post

The pass light is just a pull in switch which activates the high beam.
When you are already riding in high beam, it does not make any difference. In such cases, toggle between the high and low beam lights.

Cheers
Ride Safe
Krishna

Thanks. It makes sense. Got used of a bug in unicorn where even high beam would turn brighter on pressing passing light switch.

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