Motoman's technique.. This will screw the ride IMO. Contradictory views in a single statement.This is confusing. Please explain your different views in brief.
@Roystandbz do follow the manual itself till.. Whatever it says. We have done it and the ride says it all. No need to ponder over this topic mate. Tried and tested Yamaha Manual. Controlling your right wrist bravado will pay off later in a smoother ride

Am I Eshan ??

Anyways Bye ! !

As other seniors suggested,follow the manual.
P.S. Do you think people here know more than what Yamaha guys know about R15 ?
If 'Yes'
Shoot any and every question you've
Else
Please read the manual carefully before asking something which is clearly written on manual
End-If


+1 to that

Why are points 1 and 2 are contradicting ?

About the links you've provided, he will be more confused than getting a solution.
The summary of this post:
1. Dont follow the manual blindly as there is controversy.
2. Follow the manual like Bible
3. Follow a method by SP
4. Follow a method by Motoman

Please let us know what a newbie should follow among the 4 mentioned inferences of your post.


Eagerly waiting for this

Very self contradicting indeed. But as usual.

@Roystandbz +1 to that. Unless you have loads of extra money to make some major repairs in future to a potential damage using other than the manual mentioned Run-in procedure; I would suggest leave everything else and follow the manual for your bike. But do read the why and how of run in of a bike. Knowledge never goes waste.

The articles explain pretty elaborated rather than me explaining the whole. I have used it , But you din't else even you would have agreed.

OK lets cut it down here.

Lets have a poll on Engine break in and lets see what views all have.


This will be more clear than you or me saying anything on this topic and making a lengthy posts after posts.

Poll. Oh yeah! That will be a decider now. people here having so called better knowledge than yamaha RnD public can know better. If yes then please go ahead and file some issue with the yamaha guys that the run-in procedure provided by THEM in the manual is not right, Better make amendments to it. See what reply you get from them!
Somen out of 100 sensible riders there'll be hardly 2-3( You included) riders who have used motoman's method.Also I remember you saying that your bike max's' out at 128kmph. Why is that when Motoman assures that great increase on top end.. Start a Poll. I'll Be the first to rate and comment it.
As viper said Unless you have loads of extra money to make some major repairs in future to a potential damage using other than the manual mentioned Run-in procedure.

Let me give to you straight.

The links that you mentioned wont pay if you incur any damage based on their guidelines.

BUT

When you adhere to run-in, oil change and other repairs mentioned in the manual, you have a fair chance of getting those expenses sorted free of cost.

Also, Yamaha Engineers know more about the bike than any other mentioned website link.

Two links you have mentioned -

1) Bike Chronicles - Owner is Payeng, an Xbhp member. He is not Yamaha R15 engine designer. He has extensive knowledge which I respect and has superb experience in regards to motorcycles which I personally Honor. But my friend Somen, you cant go and catch his neck if the engine fails during the prescribed run-in in his blog, can you? Please dont forget to read the disclaimer mentioned on his website.

2) I dont wish to talk about Motoman because his techniques are correct but not mentioned for bikes which are going to be used for day-to-day requirements. The prescribed mentioned run-in schedule is apt for engines used in races, season wise. Once the season finishes the engines head to museum. Neither motoman is going to come and pay for the repairs that might arise if the run-in fails prescribed in his website.

@Somen - I'm i mad to post details after every servicing? Have I gone crazy to collect bills and keep them for future reference? All of this only points out that if the engine fails, I have proof to sort out my way cashless from the repairs. I can surely say, that look - Yamaha has prescribed so and so tasks during servicing and I have abided all of them, the engine is problematic and causing malfunctioning, I cant help so you better repair it, Im not gonna pay a penny, not my concern. Simple.

Check my past servicing and ride details, my bike engine is actually not facing any sort of heavy repairs. Why so? just cz i took the Manual seriously. Its not that I know more, but just because they know better.

I rest my case in this topic.

Court adjourned.
We know what break in we have used and the benefits of it. It's upto the owner of the bike. It's his call entirely
1. Maxed out 148KMPH ( if that really matters)
2. Latest FE on ride to aurangabad. 51kmpl
3. No over heating/no knocking
4. Smooth Gear shifts.
5. No major repair
P.S. 6.5 months and 10500 KM done on the ODO.

And where did i say Manual is wrong ?? please check the statements. Controversial and wrong are two different meaning terms.

There is nothing to fight here.

If you believe on Manual method than it's fine if you don't then too fine.

And I won't get any commission if his engine fries up and goes to SVC.

Yamaha India never said go with K&N filter and Full synthetic oils in R15 or FZ etc... Why people are not following what's written in Manual ??
Why they change it to K&N and Motul etc... ?? Ain't they more expert than RnD teams in Yamaha ?? And suggesting things here on this forum ??

I have used it and I know few people following it also and din't face any issues with small burst run in.

Din't you see Showroom helpers riding R15 or any new bikes like no tomorrow ?? Did those bikes give any issues ??

I too believe Manual procedures are way old. Now a days company develop more better pistons and block of more superior qualities.

"Open eyes are of no use, if Mind is Blind"

Even I would catch hold of SVC for any issues. But this small burst don't hurt engines no where.

Second when you go to SVC will you say "I was doing small burst "?

If you want warranty then you have to keep the bills and follow the company service schedule, but where does small burst method fails your schedule or service?

This is all about ones accepting mate nothing else. And R15 is made of R125 sports bike which is a race bike. So R15 do comes into sports track bike. So we can follow this method. But yes what if this fails and that fails ??

So it's a controversial topic.

And Yes posting your service records helps others do get an idea of parts cost and service things to be taken care.

I re-read the posts. Its again once you said small bursts after 500kms and then later you posted the motoman link. Contradiction is this. So either you used the manual method till 500kms and then ripped it like motoman till 1k ? If this wasn't the case you would not have agrred on both the methods.
Superior quality pistons, heads, blocks, no question about those. The main and important thing we are discussing here is about run-in and about the manual. and not about aftermarket filters or different engine oils. Engine oils again IMO depend on the climate of the region You live in. That's why there are different grades of engine oil.
I dont really care about how the showroom helpers ride the bike. When I get my bike a thorough inspection and then the regular servicing and maintainance is what I really care and follow.
One rider here asked about the run-in we gave our opinions what we feel is right and is developed by yamaha. Although according to you might be old, nothing wrong in that again. But hey old school tricks do good than harm the ride. You gave your opinion, Good. We gave ours Good. We need to see it in person and ride it to experience the real difference in two different methods of running-in the engine. One small doubt. How old is your ride? Just for information because might happen that 128kmph you said was due to lot of mileage on your bike or what I think, it is due to motoman's method. can you please clarify?
" And R15 is made of R125 sports bike which is a race bike. So R15 do comes into sports track bike" > No comments

No comments mates I am out of this discussion! We are heading no where!

If engine is knocking, then should it knock on neutral when the bike is revved hard?? And if engine doesnt knock on neutral then does it mean it wont knock while the bike is running?? What if such difference exists? Can this be termed as knocking or it is known as something else??

Hello All....My R15 has done 400 Kms On ODO...And till now i follow whats given in the Manual ( As Breaking-in Topic is very much controversial ) I think The people who Made the bike Knows better than anybody else :P Manual says "Do Not Drive over 5000 RPM for prolonged duration during First 1000 KMS" This means Drive below 5000 Rpm and Short bursts to Higher RPM are Harmless....
Just My thoughts

Btw I got a doubt... Riding with Pillion does not affect the Engine RPM right?? I feel My engine bit stressed when i Ride with pillion,But still i stick to 5k Rpm Limit... And Mine does 70 KMPH at 5K RPM..SO according to me am sticking to Less than or 5k RPM or less than 70 KMPH..... I drive about half an hour with these limits in mind and varying the RPM constantly in the morning and in the evening about 28 Km (one way)... Am i doing good?? If something wrong please help me correct it

Machining of internal engine parts didnt achieve exact tolerances earlier when technology was not that advanced. Its now different a story altogether, hence even if you ride at say 6000 RPM during run in, it wont be making any harm. Its as simple as that.

Correction bro. Its written, not to drive over 5000rpm for prolonged duration during first 500kms and over 7500rpm during 500 to 1000kms. Short bursts to higher RPMS's are harmless

Yeah true the engine feels a little stressed with pillion onboard, but the rpm remains unaffected.

I have followed the same run-in as mentioned by you and its perfect. No worries. Keep riding.