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**akshay059** · 01-16-2013, 01:57 PM

I want to modify my bike, but I am afraid that it will ruin the looks. I can't even get the tyre hugger cut..

To all those who are worried about quality, in the beginning I was also quite picky on very little vibs and sounds that come out of the bike but till date (7k kms of riding fast, slow and all) no issues none at all (touchwood)... And every other bike that I have ridden felt worse than R15 whether you talk of balance or power or braking...

So just enjoy you bike and ride safe..

**Sushrut** · 01-16-2013, 02:12 PM

Originally posted by akshay059 View Post

I want to modify my bike, but I am afraid that it will ruin the looks. I can't even get the tyre hugger cut..

To all those who are worried about quality, in the beginning I was also quite picky on very little vibs and sounds that come out of the bike but till date (7k kms of riding fast, slow and all) no issues none at all (touchwood)... And every other bike that I have ridden felt worse than R15 whether you talk of balance or power or braking...

So just enjoy you bike and ride safe..

No need to worry about quality. R15 is as reliable as an AK 47

**incipient** · 01-16-2013, 03:05 PM

how much is the oil consumption in your bikes?

its 2k km since my last oil change and the oil level has gone down quite a bit.
the problem is that i am not able to tell if there is sufficient oil left.

the dip-stick has a cross-hatched pattern on one side. when i insert it with the pattern-side facing up & then remove it there's no oil left on the cross-hatch.
when inserted facing down it shows some oil about a quarter of the length above the low level.
so which one's correct?

**Eshan-P180** · 01-16-2013, 03:06 PM

Originally posted by incipient View Post

how much is the oil consumption in your bikes?

its 2k km since my last oil change and the oil level has gone down quite a bit.
the problem is that i am not able to tell if there is sufficient oil left.

the dip-stick has a cross-hatched pattern on one side. when i insert it with the pattern-side facing up & then remove it there's no oil on the pattern.
when inserted facing down it shows some oil about a quarter of the length above the low level.
so which one's correct?

Both the steps are correct but they need to be performed either on the paddock or the main stand when the engine is flat and not tilted.

**incipient** · 01-16-2013, 03:16 PM

Originally posted by akshay059 View Post

I want to modify my bike, but I am afraid that it will ruin the looks. I can't even get the tyre hugger cut..

just get it sawed man. you don't want that dead weight on the swingarm and besides the saree guard looks ugly. only issue is that there's gonna be more mud splattered on the underside of the bike during monsoons, not too bad though.

**incipient** · 01-16-2013, 03:19 PM

Originally posted by Eshan-P180 View Post

Both the steps are correct but they need to be performed either on the paddock or the main stand when the engine is flat and not tilted.

i am doing it using a (temporary) center-stand.
they can't be both right! one is showing there's no oil and the other is showing that there is.

**Eshan-P180** · 01-16-2013, 03:27 PM

Originally posted by incipient View Post

i am doing it using a (temporary) center-stand.
they can't be both right! one is showing there's no oil and the other is showing that there is.

I think you dint get what I said.

Lets try again

1) Early morning when the engine oil is settled and cold pin it on the main stand.

2) Just remove the oil cap.

3) Wipe it and ensure there are no traces of liquids.

4) Now, put the cap all the way inside.

5) Remove the cap and check till what mark there is oil present.

5 easy steps to know the level of oil in your bike engine. The oil level should be present on the mid skid graph of the bike.

Also, i do not know why haven't you referred the manual where correct details are given.

**incipient** · 01-16-2013, 07:32 PM

Originally posted by Eshan-P180 View Post

I think you dint get what I said.

Lets try again

1) Early morning when the engine oil is settled and cold pin it on the main stand.

2) Just remove the oil cap.

3) Wipe it and ensure there are no traces of liquids.

4) Now, put the cap all the way inside.

5) Remove the cap and check till what mark there is oil present.

5 easy steps to know the level of oil in your bike engine. The oil level should be present on the mid skid graph of the bike.

Also, i do not know why haven't you referred the manual where correct details are given.

Ok, first of all i have read the manual ... obviously that's the first place to look isn't it?

Second, i am following the same steps (except 1) where instead of a cool engine, i let the engine warm up and then let the oil settle for a few minutes before taking a reading)
The doubt i had was how to interpret the oil level in step 5. i think the reason is that the dipstick is inserted at an angle therefore the oil level on the two opposite faces is different and since my oil level has gone low its not wetting it on one side at all. i guess me bike needs an oil top-up.

**incipient** · 01-16-2013, 07:39 PM

guys, what's the odo error on the R15?

what's the cutoff RPM (real not odo) for the ECU on R15 V2? (sorry for asking it here but the folks at the R15 V2 thread are already busy with teflon coatings and pretty angel eyes so i don't want to bother 'em)

**Vishwas Bharadwaj** · 01-16-2013, 08:39 PM

Originally posted by incipient View Post

guys, what's the odo error on the R15?

what's the cutoff RPM (real not odo) for the ECU on R15 V2? (sorry for asking it here but the folks at the R15 V2 thread are already busy with teflon coatings and pretty angel eyes so i don't want to bother 'em)

Just a heads-up,but this is the R-15 Version 2 thread.
1)What do you mean by 'odo error'?
2)The engine in the R-15 cuts off at 10500 RPM.............really.
You can notice this if you look at the Tachometer and not the Odometer.

**incipient** · 01-16-2013, 09:08 PM

Originally posted by Vishwas Bharadwaj View Post

Just a heads-up,but this is the R-15 Version 2 thread.
1)What do you mean by 'odo error'?
2)The engine in the R-15 cuts off at 10500 RPM.............really.
You can notice this if you look at the Tachometer and not the Odometer.

Oh shoot! i thought i was on the v1 thread. :-P thanks for pointing it out. :-)

I meant the error in the rpm meter (oops typo). just like there's an speedo error in the r15 i was wondering by how much the tachometer is off.
because according to specs the max torque is produced @7500 but i kinda felt that the pull is strongest near 8k on the tach (hence the suspicion about tach error)..

**Ron Syl** · 01-17-2013, 12:34 AM

Originally posted by incipient View Post

guys, what's the odo error on the R15?

what's the cutoff RPM (real not odo) for the ECU on R15 V2? (sorry for asking it here but the folks at the R15 V2 thread are already busy with teflon coatings and pretty angel eyes so i don't want to bother 'em)

hmmm. pretty pisd off at that sentence.

Originally posted by incipient View Post

Oh shoot! i thought i was on the v1 thread. :-P thanks for pointing it out. :-)

I meant the error in the rpm meter (oops typo). just like there's an speedo error in the r15 i was wondering by how much the tachometer is off.
because according to specs the max torque is produced @7500 but i kinda felt that the pull is strongest near 8k on the tach (hence the suspicion about tach error)..

yes there is error in the odo as well as the rpm meter. it kept that way so that the 'user' may not take the bike to its extremes everytime. if the r15 is supposed to cut off power at 10k rmp then the rpm meter will show 10.5k on the meter. this one i came to know from race dynamics guys while testing the racedynamics ecu. their ecu shows the correct reading.

**incipient** · 01-17-2013, 03:27 AM

Originally posted by Ron Syl View Post

hmmm. pretty pisd off at that sentence.

not you man. :-)
but you have got to admit that the general quality of the discussion on this thread is somewhat pedestrian.

**R-series** · 01-17-2013, 06:43 AM

Originally posted by incipient View Post

Oh shoot! i thought i was on the v1 thread. :-P thanks for pointing it out. :-)

I meant the error in the rpm meter (oops typo). just like there's an speedo error in the r15 i was wondering by how much the tachometer is off.
because according to specs the max torque is produced @7500 but i kinda felt that the pull is strongest near 8k on the tach (hence the suspicion about tach error)..

Honestly speaking, an a difference of 500rpm is very small to be observed when your somewhere between 7 and 8k rpm. It might be the tacho error, it can be human error (in observation), it can be mechanical error as well. I would personally not give attention to the difference of 500rpm till the time your riding on streets and not measuring your lap time cos with the time of ownership of any vehicel it develops the character of it's rider/driver...so after a while no 2 vehicles perform exactly the same.

**nastrofaction** · 01-17-2013, 08:48 AM

Originally posted by incipient View Post

not you man. :-)
but you have got to admit that the general quality of the discussion on this thread is somewhat pedestrian.

If there will be queries, there will be answers. Either your rpm cut-over queries or the let there be light queries.
Forums are there to help all level of experience, general or moto. If you wish us to start hurling abuses at whoever comes to the thread with a query that might be not that intellect in nature, that destroys the very basic nature of having a discussion forum. I hope none of the senior members on this thread believe in this. Clear their queries and help them being informed on more advanced issues is what we are trying to achieve here. v1 is an old thread with experienced fellows having all these things, being there and done there. Hope that helps.

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