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**ashwinprakas** · 03-03-2013, 11:45 PM

Originally posted by Shubham@bikez View Post

Hi everyone,

I am going to book my baby R sometime in this week. Today I met a friend of mine who owns this fabulous machine but the height of the pillion seat seemed to be considerably lower than the normal V2. When I asked him about this, he told me that his roommate who is his regular pillion is around 95 kgs might be the reason for this reduced height. This came as a shock to me …Moreover; I was not very convinced with this explanation…. Could anyone throw some light on this???? Has anyone else experienced the same??

That could be a valid explanation because when my bike was brand new, I had issues climbing on the pillion seat, I used to stand on the saree guard rest and then climb on, but now after two years, am running on humungous Dunlop Monster Trail at rear and even yet the height of the pillion seat is lower than when it was new, meaning I could just put my leg over it and get on. BTW I weigh 114kg's and my pillions weight anywhere from 75~105 Kg's.

**Shubham@bikez** · 03-03-2013, 11:46 PM

Originally posted by krish2778 View Post

Lol. What a funny explanation. He is having a different suspension setting or he has changed from stock tire to some other option , hence the altered ride height. Or there is something really wrong with his bike.

Cheers
Ride Safe
Krishna

Bro AFAIK R15 V2's Monoshock doesn't have any suspension settings...( I read that once in some ownership review)...Correct me if I am wrong....

**krish2778** · 03-03-2013, 11:52 PM

Originally posted by Shubham@bikez View Post

Bro AFAIK R15 V2's Monoshock doesn't have any suspension settings...( I read that once in some ownership review)...Correct me if I am wrong....

Mono-shocks can be set from Soft to hard right ? i mean all of them ? how come they don't have adjustable one's. Even i am not sure now, i was with the assumption that all mono-shocks can be adjusted with custom settings.

Cheers
Ride Safe
Krishna

**xDa_nightfury** · 03-04-2013, 12:00 AM

Confirm it pls...that can be r15 version 1.0

Matter close.

**Shubham@bikez** · 03-04-2013, 12:11 AM

Originally posted by xDa_nightfury View Post

Confirm it pls...that can be r15 version 1.0

Matter close.

Oh come on!!! I know that much bro.... It's R15 V2....without any doubt....

**abhimanyu31** · 03-04-2013, 01:22 AM

Originally posted by krish2778 View Post

Mono-shocks can be set from Soft to hard right ? i mean all of them ? how come they don't have adjustable one's. Even i am not sure now, i was with the assumption that all mono-shocks can be adjusted with custom settings.

Cheers
Ride Safe
Krishna

What you are talking about is the pre load adjustment for spring. The R15's mono shock has a rising rate linkage which takes care of the pre load sag and varies the dampening rate. The FZ16 and the CBR150 have the mono shock mounted directly on the swing arm and therefore have pre load adjustment for the spring. The R15's setup is superior to FZ16 and CBR150.

**xDa_nightfury** · 03-04-2013, 01:34 AM

Originally posted by Shubham@bikez View Post

Oh come on!!! I know that much bro.... It's R15 V2....without any doubt....

Dude m jst kidding... m keeping my bike simple.i dnt think we should modify any settings...

**krish2778** · 03-04-2013, 05:54 AM

Originally posted by abhimanyu31 View Post

What you are talking about is the pre load adjustment for spring. The R15's mono shock has a rising rate linkage which takes care of the pre load sag and varies the dampening rate. The FZ16 and the CBR150 have the mono shock mounted directly on the swing arm and therefore have pre load adjustment for the spring. The R15's setup is superior to FZ16 and CBR150.

So the setup for the R15 is kind of a dynamic preload adjuster ? Does the adjustment on its own ? While in FZ and CBR150 it can be done by the user ? Did I get that right ? That's great info.

Cheers
Ride Safe
Krishna

**swarajg** · 03-04-2013, 02:37 PM

Joined R15 family today. Long wait comes to an end.

Thundering Green it is.

**abhimanyu31** · 03-04-2013, 04:32 PM

Originally posted by krish2778 View Post

So the setup for the R15 is kind of a dynamic preload adjuster ? Does the adjustment on its own ? While in FZ and CBR150 it can be done by the user ? Did I get that right ? That's great info.

Cheers
Ride Safe
Krishna

In a way yes. Rising rate (also known as progressive rate) linkages are a set of linkages which have precisely calculated ratios to provide progressive compression dampening. Meaning that the shock absorber moves at a different rate than the swing arm based on the ratios of the linkages. This is very different from the directly mounted on the swing arm mono shocks where in the shock absorber moves at the same rate as the swing arm as it is directly connected to the swing arm. The raising rate linkage becomes stiffer as it progresses through its stroke, thus lessening the chance of bottoming out due to big hits or heavy pre load weight.

Another thing to note is that a raising rate linkage is more expensive to make vis-a-vis a direct shock setup (more parts involved).

**incipient** · 03-04-2013, 05:26 PM

Originally posted by krish2778 View Post

So the setup for the R15 is kind of a dynamic preload adjuster ? Does the adjustment on its own ? While in FZ and CBR150 it can be done by the user ? Did I get that right ? That's great info.

Cheers
Ride Safe
Krishna

Thanks to abhimanyu31 for the info.

also, found some info (with images) about it on the yamaha-india site, check it out: Products | India Yamaha Motor Pvt. Ltd.

**incipient** · 03-04-2013, 05:42 PM

Originally posted by abhimanyu31 View Post

In a way yes. Rising rate (also known as progressive rate) linkages are a set of linkages which have precisely calculated ratios to provide progressive compression dampening. Meaning that the shock absorber moves at a different rate than the swing arm based on the ratios of the linkages. This is very different from the directly mounted on the swing arm mono shocks where in the shock absorber moves at the same rate as the swing arm as it is directly connected to the swing arm. The raising rate linkage becomes stiffer as it progresses through its stroke, thus lessening the chance of bottoming out due to big hits or heavy pre load weight.

Another thing to note is that a raising rate linkage is more expensive to make vis-a-vis a direct shock setup (more parts involved).

i think i read somewhere that suspension components on bikes used for racing are linear in action (instead of variable rate). if this is true why is linear travel not suitable for production sport bikes such R15?
(sorry for the OT question.)

**siddharthsure** · 03-04-2013, 06:54 PM

Originally posted by swarajg View Post

Joined R15 family today. Long wait comes to an end.

Thundering Green it is.

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Congrats bro and welcome to the club

Do post some pics

**Roystandbz** · 03-04-2013, 08:18 PM

guys!! can we clean our baby r's chain with diesel and then lube it with chain spray?? plus anyone of you done chain tightening by yourself??? i believe my chain is a little slack :P

**krish2778** · 03-04-2013, 08:23 PM

Originally posted by Roystandbz View Post

guys!! can we clean our baby r's chain with diesel and then lube it with chain spray?? plus anyone of you done chain tightening by yourself??? i believe my chain is a little slack :P

Yes diesel or kerosene or degreaser like wd40 can be used to clean the chain.

Tor chain slack search the d.i.y threads. Most probably you'll find a dedicated thread there.

Cheers
Ride safe
Krishna

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