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**Balgi** · 11-10-2014, 04:41 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by RRB View Post

Hi , I got water inside my fuel tank because the drain hole was clogged with dirt and I was not aware there was a drain hole, it will get clogged and you need to clean it regularly. AFAIK water won't enter through the fuel tank opening if it is closed. It is pretty sealed. I learned a lesson, do not open the fuel tank after a water wash or in case you drenched in rain.

What if you run out of fuel in the rain on the highway and have to fill up fuel at a gas station with no overhead protection against rain. What then? LOL

**RRB** · 11-10-2014, 05:49 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by Balgi View Post

What if you run out of fuel in the rain on the highway and have to fill up fuel at a gas station with no overhead protection against rain. What then? LOL

Haha! Keep the drain hole cleaned always

**s1d** · 11-10-2014, 05:56 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by Balgi View Post

What if you run out of fuel in the rain on the highway and have to fill up fuel at a gas station with no overhead protection against rain. What then? LOL

I'll tell you how..

Remove your helmet, place it over the tank opening, insert the fuel nozzle thru the visor opening, fill up, remove nozzle, shut cap, remove helmet.
If you do not have a helmet on, then refueling should be the last thing on your head.

**Balgi** · 11-10-2014, 06:02 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by s1d View Post

I'll tell you how..

Remove your helmet, place it over the tank opening, insert the fuel nozzle thru the visor opening, fill up, remove nozzle, shut cap, remove helmet.
If you do not have a helmet on, then refueling should be the last thing on your head.

What? Are you MacGyver? :O

Don't worry if you don't get that reference. Many people don't.

**TheArcher84** · 11-10-2014, 06:55 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by Balgi View Post

What? Are you MacGyver? :O

Don't worry if you don't get that reference. Many people don't.

haha..I just googled it..one thing is missing...Swiss army knife :P

**s1d** · 11-11-2014, 08:31 AM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by Balgi View Post

What? Are you MacGyver? :O

Just call me Rajinikanth lol

necessity is the mother of improvisation.

Btw, need some small info guys.. especially with the older lot of duke 200's (lets say 2013 and earlier lots) I'd like to know how many temperature bars come up on your console in heavy stop go city traffic and in regular riding in the city with less traffic.
Mine is less than a month old d200 (done 500km, using motul 7100 right from 4km onwards)and is always two notches below in the first segment in heavy stop go traffic and on normal city running its three notches below on the first segment. The new radiator fan is doing a good job in keeping a considerable amount of heat away from the legs.

**wallpapers123** · 11-11-2014, 08:40 AM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by s1d View Post

Just call me Rajinikanth lol

necessity is the mother of improvisation.

Btw, need some small info guys.. especially with the older lot of duke 200's (lets say 2013 and earlier lots) I'd like to know how many temperature bars come up on your console in heavy stop go city traffic and in regular riding in the city with less traffic.
Mine is less than a month old d200 (done 500km, using motul 7100 right from 4km onwards)and is always two notches below in the first segment in heavy stop go traffic and on normal city running its three notches below on the first segment. The new radiator fan is doing a good job in keeping a considerable amount of heat away from the legs.

Mine is June last year done close to 19K have been using motul 7100 since 1st servicing. I'm yet to change the coolant as it is to changed after 20K kms. I have ridden in excessive traffic with legs almost close to burning. But the temp bars haven't crossed the top big bar and one bar below that.
Touchwood but honestly I've had a couple of issues related to engine oil leaks and such but haven't had any issues with the radiator and other related things.
BTW I've read somewhere with the new added radiator fan cover, it sound like jet fighter or something. Is that true..??[emoji3][emoji3]

**s1d** · 11-11-2014, 08:53 AM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by wallpapers123 View Post

BTW I've read somewhere with the new added radiator fan cover, it sound like jet fighter or something. Is that true..??[emoji3][emoji3]

Yes Sir, it does..and it was me who mentioned it sounding like a small jet engine (albeit heard from a distance). Scares people at long traffic signals

(i haven't been shutting it down at signals) . Maybe that's its own way of saying "get me out of this #$%^ traffic"

And i remember reading people saying the temp bars mostly max out on the first segment in the city traffic, so i just wanted to get some data to see if there is any improvement in the newer lots because mine has always been below the top two notches on the first segment, and mind you this is a new bike still at around 500km.

**wallpapers123** · 11-11-2014, 09:07 AM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by s1d View Post

Yes Sir, it does..and it was me who mentioned it sounding like a small jet engine (albeit heard from a distance). Scares people at long traffic signals

(i haven't been shutting it down at signals) . Maybe that's its own way of saying "get me out of this #$%^ traffic"

Nice!!
I can't wait to get it Installed on my D200. I'm calling the SVC mechs almost everyday to check if the spare parts have arrived.

**Balgi** · 11-11-2014, 10:04 AM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by s1d View Post

Just call me Rajinikanth lol

necessity is the mother of improvisation.

Btw, need some small info guys.. especially with the older lot of duke 200's (lets say 2013 and earlier lots) I'd like to know how many temperature bars come up on your console in heavy stop go city traffic and in regular riding in the city with less traffic.
Mine is less than a month old d200 (done 500km, using motul 7100 right from 4km onwards)and is always two notches below in the first segment in heavy stop go traffic and on normal city running its three notches below on the first segment. The new radiator fan is doing a good job in keeping a considerable amount of heat away from the legs.

The radiator fan (as I was told by the svc) comes on only when the core temperature reaches 96*C and turns off when it gets down to 80*C in all dukes be it 200 or 390.
The duke 200 runs hotter than the 390 as the engine is smaller and gearing is shorter but if you get temp gauge readings like you're getting now, there's no reason for concern at all. Also since there's a fan shroud on the new duke radiators the heat dissipation, although better, will be slower than usual thanks to the obstructive nature of the fan shroud and thus the high readings.

**s1d** · 11-11-2014, 10:20 AM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by Balgi View Post

The radiator fan (as I was told by the svc) comes on only when the core temperature reaches 96*C and turns off when it gets down to 80*C in all dukes be it 200 or 390.
The duke 200 runs hotter than the 390 as the engine is smaller and gearing is shorter but if you get temp gauge readings like you're getting now, there's no reason for concern at all. Also since there's a fan shroud on the new duke radiators the heat dissipation, although better, will be slower than usual thanks to the obstructive nature of the fan shroud and thus the high readings.

On the D200 (i can only confirm for the newer lots because i have seen it myself), the radiator fan comes on at precisely 89.5 C and stays on till the temp falls below 89.5 -- This was shown to me during the PDI of my bike with their diagnostic tool connected.
The next time you visit the svc, do ask them to connect the diagnostic tool and do let us know what are the numbers you see on your 390.

I am not at all worried about my bike, i was just asking to gather information to understand how much the new design is helping. And the readings are in fact lower on my bike compared to what i have been reading on the older d200's.
And the 390 runs way hotter than a 200, i have no idea why you feel the opposite. My legs were literally on fire after i rode a 390 for a few minutes, but the 200 was more bearable (both these were the older lots with older fan design)

**Balgi** · 11-11-2014, 10:37 AM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by s1d View Post

On the D200, the radiator fan comes on at precisely 89.5 C and stays on till the temp falls below 89.5 -- This was shown to me during the PDI of my bike with their diagnostic tool connected.
I am not at all worried about my bike, i was just asking to gather information to understand how much the new design is helping. And the readings are in fact lower on my bike compared to what i have been reading on the older d200's.
And the 390 runs way hotter than a 200, i have no idea why you feel the opposite. My legs were literally on fire after i rode a 390 for a few minutes, but the 200 was more bearable (both these were the older lots with older fan design)

Hmmm...... Yes the temp figures I gave are not accurate to the last decimal point bro but it was to give you an idea. But since you already know it you should have mentioned that.
The duke 390 runs hotter in comparison to duke 200 but not by much and you do have to take into consideration the extra 175cc's and almost double the hp. But the rpms are lower per gear meaning if the duke 200 was given the extra 175cc's but made to run the same 200 short gearbox it would run way hotter. But if the 200 was given the 390's taller gearing it would run way cooler.
And speaking of the diagnostics tool, it displays the same temp reading for both 200 and 390 but the 200 heats up much faster than the 390 and 390 stays hot for longer after the engine is turned off coz of the big displacement.

**s1d** · 11-11-2014, 10:55 AM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by Balgi View Post

Hmmm...... Yes the temp figures I gave are not accurate to the last decimal point bro but it was to give you an idea. But since you already know it you should have mentioned that.
The duke 390 runs hotter in comparison to duke 200 but not by much and you do have to take into consideration the extra 175cc's and almost double the hp. But the rpms are lower per gear meaning if the duke 200 was given the extra 175cc's but made to run the same 200 short gearbox it would run way hotter. But if the 200 was given the 390's taller gearing it would run way cooler.
And speaking of the diagnostics tool, it displays the same temp reading for both 200 and 390 but the 200 heats up much faster than the 390 and 390 stays hot for longer after the engine is turned off coz of the big displacement.

I do not know what is the reading/cut off for a 390. As i mentioned, it would be great if you can get it checked. I'd rather see numbers than hear ppl give out those numbers from hearsay. (when you said 96 and 80 C in your prev post, you see those values were way out of the actual for the 200.)
You are confusing yourself. There is no point in us discussing/assuming and interchanging the cc's and gearing amongst the two bikes. They are what they are.
And IMO the 390 runs hotter and gets hotter faster than a d200 (under similar riding conditions of course). you are the first person i've heard who says otherwise.
The 390 running more relaxed (engine stress, rpm's etc..) due to its capacity/gearing is another topic to discuss. But when it comes to pure heat, I stand by my above statement.

**Balgi** · 11-11-2014, 03:45 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by s1d View Post

I do not know what is the reading/cut off for a 390. As i mentioned, it would be great if you can get it checked. I'd rather see numbers than hear ppl give out those numbers from hearsay. (when you said 96 and 80 C in your prev post, you see those values were way out of the actual for the 200.)
You are confusing yourself. There is no point in us discussing/assuming and interchanging the cc's and gearing amongst the two bikes. They are what they are.
And IMO the 390 runs hotter and gets hotter faster than a d200 (under similar riding conditions of course). you are the first person i've heard who says otherwise.
The 390 running more relaxed (engine stress, rpm's etc..) due to its capacity/gearing is another topic to discuss. But when it comes to pure heat, I stand by my above statement.

As I said in an earlier post, I do not speculate, I observe and then present my observations. But nothing says your observations and experience cannot be right if they are different from mine nor does my observations and experience become wrong if they are different from yours.

But I stand by my statement as well.

The readings and cut off for radiator heat is the same for both bikes and I just gave a general range not exact figures. And I run my bike in the city, for me it takes time to heat up and then stays hot longer as opposed to my friend's d200 which heats up faster and cools down quickly.

But as I said experiences can differ based on N number of factors. So you're right, there's no need to go into it. As to your original query, your bike is running normally and there's no need to bother with the engine heat as long as its not displaying high coolant temperature.

**s1d** · 11-11-2014, 11:04 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by Balgi View Post

But as I said experiences can differ based on N number of factors. So you're right, there's no need to go into it. As to your original query, your bike is running normally and there's no need to bother with the engine heat as long as its not displaying high coolant temperature.

no issues man! and let me say it again, my earlier query was only asking people on what their bikes read out is on the temperature (i was only collecting 'data', the more data you have from different people the more clarity you get on it). I know my bike is perfectly fine, no coolant loss, the temp bars are lower (has always been below the top two notches on the first segment) compared to what I have seen on another d200.. I just want to know from you guys here as well (just my curiosity)

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