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**Vysakh.M.S** · 11-18-2014, 11:06 AM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by Balgi View Post

People who have been riding a while know when the speed of the engine is the same as the speed of the rear wheel. And anyone who knows this has no trouble downshifting.
Essentially, rev matching means to match engine rpm to correct wheel speed to shift down. This reduces stress on the rider and the machine itself.

Originally posted by s1d View Post

I do not know how to explain it in words to make you understand. Infact i think its impossible to unless you see someone do it.
here are some videos that might help you: (these the much more powerful bikes so the growl/sound is much higher during the blip)

Motorcycle Throttle Blip. Sportbike Throttle Blipping. Kawasaki Ninja 636! How to Ride a Sportbike?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydU_MUZysCQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPq5gaA-XvIA Kick Ass Music Video! Click this link to see what i am talking about.

Motorcycle Rev Matching

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDLWmzomvZA

Going over how to rev match while downshifting! 2007 GSXR 600Question? leave a comment down below!!! Steps:1.) Know how much to blip throttle by simply downs...

You may also be doing this unintentionally.. but most riders don't. they just roll off the throttle, pull in clutch and go 'thad thad thad' on downshifting.
right way is to pull in clutch, blipping the throttle,downshifting -- practice.. but remember if you over rev it and downshift and then let the clutch go, you will lock up the rear and may end up skidding/falling off

I understood what both of you meant.
Downshift was ok but yesterday a couple of time when i downshifted, it went "thad thad". But when i throttled a little, and downshifted, everything was fine.
Is the method fine? I mean giving a little throttle.

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**Balgi** · 11-18-2014, 11:45 AM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by Vysakh.M.S View Post

I understood what both of you meant.
Downshift was ok but yesterday a couple of time when i downshifted, it went "thad thad". But when i throttled a little, and downshifted, everything was fine.
Is the method fine? I mean giving a little throttle.

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If you reread mine and [MENTION=16602]s1d[/MENTION]'s post you'll see that you are basically throttle blipping. And that one time it went "thud thud" was the one time you failed to do it. The fuel injected rides don't gradually idle like carb bikes, when you pull in the clutch if the bike is at 10000 rpm it'll jump straight down to 2000 rpm. So if you don't partially throttle then the gear will shift as it does at high speed but with no stress from the engine to match the stress from momentum. And therefore the "thud".

**Janesh.J** · 11-18-2014, 02:34 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by Balgi View Post

Wait. Did it stall while stationary? Or did it stall with a krrrrrrrrrrr sound while riding? If its the latter then you're engine seized. Contrary to popular belief the engine does start after seizing unless piston melted. So if its that then you're getting a new engine under warranty.

It stalled while taking a turn at the divider. this has happened before also. i had revved the engine high with clutch pulled and when i left the throttle it stalled. this happens off and on but not on a regular basis. sometimes if i come to halt from high speed and pul clutch, engine dies.

I am out of warranty so would not get a new engine (wish i could).

**Balgi** · 11-18-2014, 02:41 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by Janesh.J View Post

It stalled while taking a turn at the divider. this has happened before also. i had revved the engine high with clutch pulled and when i left the throttle it stalled. this happens off and on but not on a regular basis. sometimes if i come to halt from high speed and pul clutch, engine dies.

I am out of warranty so would not get a new engine (wish i could).

Yeah that problem does exists in older lot of ktm's. But that is just a minor throttle body issue. No engine replacements for that. Just clean the throttle body and replace the air filter if you haven't yet and the problem will be gone.

**Janesh.J** · 11-18-2014, 02:43 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

That means the fuel pump is fine, no need to replace the pump ? Should i get the tank and fuel pump cleaned ?

**Balgi** · 11-18-2014, 03:05 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by Janesh.J View Post

That means the fuel pump is fine, no need to replace the pump ? Should i get the tank and fuel pump cleaned ?

No its not the fuel pump unless the bike lags when engine is cold or between 4-5k rpm (feeling you get when bike is running out of fuel). Also you'd get starting trouble and erratic rpm on idle.
Yes clean out the tank and change fuel filter. Also if you're filling any high octane fuels, just stop. Use only regular 91RON fuel. The additives in those high octane fuels can cause you intake to gum up.

**Janesh.J** · 11-18-2014, 03:53 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by Balgi View Post

No its not the fuel pump unless the bike lags when engine is cold or between 4-5k rpm (feeling you get when bike is running out of fuel). Also you'd get starting trouble and erratic rpm on idle.
Yes clean out the tank and change fuel filter. Also if you're filling any high octane fuels, just stop. Use only regular 91RON fuel. The additives in those high octane fuels can cause you intake to gum up.

Ok so as per your reply, I do have the LAG when engine is cold and between 4-5k rpm, BUT no starting trouble and no erratic RPM. I dont use premium fuel only regular SHELL fuel.

**Balgi** · 11-18-2014, 04:24 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by Janesh.J View Post

Ok so as per your reply, I do have the LAG when engine is cold and between 4-5k rpm, BUT no starting trouble and no erratic RPM. I dont use premium fuel only regular SHELL fuel.

Ah..... So just get the tank cleaned and fuel filter changed. In addition clean the throttle body and change the air filter. If problem isn't solved after this you can then be sure that its the fuel pump that is at fault. Another way to check is by listening to the fuel pump when it primes the engine. If it makes the usual sound its fine, but if it makes a high pitch erratic sound (kiiiiiyaaaa type) then its faulty. Do this only after warmup though for definitive results.

**plexus** · 11-18-2014, 04:58 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

hello guys today i got the delivery

of my beast. but on the console glows engine oil light when the bike is in ignition on mode, and it turns off when the bike is started ? . is there something i should be worried about ? or is this ok ?

**Balgi** · 11-18-2014, 05:05 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by plexus View Post

hello guys today i got the delivery

of my beast. but on the console glows engine oil light when the bike is in ignition on mode, and it turns off when the bike is started ? . is there something i should be worried about ? or is this ok ?

What engine oil light? Do you mean the tiny yellow ignition light on the left of the gear shift light? If so then its normal. Does the console show any warnings or error messages?
Please post a pic of this engine oil light.

**wallpapers123** · 11-18-2014, 05:10 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by Balgi View Post

What engine oil light? Do you mean the tiny yellow ignition light on the left of the gear shift light? If so then its normal. Does the console show any warnings or error messages?
Please post a pic of this engine oil light.

He is talking about engine malfunction red light that comes when we abruptly shut the engine off.

**Balgi** · 11-18-2014, 07:14 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by wallpapers123 View Post

He is talking about engine malfunction red light that comes when we abruptly shut the engine off.

Again, this is foreign to me. The only red light I know of that exists on a ktm bike is the gear shift indicator light. Did they include another red light on the new models? Otherwise the error warning triangle ("⚠") is the only other warning light. And that turns on and stays on as long as the side stand is not withdrawn. And it flashes when fuel is low. So which is it?
A pic would seriously help here.

**plexus** · 11-19-2014, 12:24 AM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

balgi this is the light i was talking about ,not the triangle warning light is on cause the fuel is low, i went through the whole manual to figure out why does the engine oil light turn on in ignition and turn off when the vehicle is started. no balgi they have not included any new warning lights in cockpit . thanks a lot balgi with your help i have managed to order a tankpad for the duke which exactly looks like the OEM version for just 999.

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no wallpapers123 i meant the engine oil light .

**s1d** · 11-19-2014, 01:52 AM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by plexus View Post

[ATTACH=CONFIG]163946[/ATTACH]balgi this is the light i was talking about ,not the triangle warning light is on cause the fuel is low, i went through the whole manual to figure out why does the engine oil light turn on in ignition and turn off when the vehicle is started. no balgi they have not included any new warning lights in cockpit . thanks a lot balgi with your help i have managed to order a tankpad for the duke which exactly looks like the OEM version for just 999.

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no wallpapers123 i meant the engine oil light .

there is no engine oil light on the duke200 - you will get a read out on the console if the oil pressure is oil(similar to it saying 'side stand down'). The one to the left on the shift rpm is the engine diagnostic light (MIL).. i know it may look like the oil warning lamp say from a kinetic honda lol !! and the behaviour you are seeing is normal. If it still stays lit up or comes on when the vehicle is started/running, then you need to get it checked at the asc with their diagnostic tool. The color of it, i would put it closer to orange than 'red' (the shift rpm is red)

Pls read the manual, and the features/functioning of the console have been explained there.

**rollno.∞** · 11-19-2014, 05:36 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Guys need your help.

I've decided to pick a used duke 200. What is a good price to pay for a bike that has done 15-20k km and is in suitable condition for that age? Does the year of manufacturing(2012/2013) make a huge difference? Any issues in the previous batches that were sorted out?

Another thing is regarding the vin number. Is the same http://support.ktm-parts.com/entries...fication-Chart pattern followed in Indian KTM.

I was thinking of getting the bike checked at the ktm sc before making the purchase. Do they keep a digital record of the bikes history with them? Anything else to look for?

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