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**Balgi** · 11-16-2014, 03:07 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by Vysakh.M.S View Post

The coolant cap can be opened by anyone right? Is there any safety feature for it? Like any other type of cap etc with lock or something like that.

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I think sufficiently heating the bike up is in itself a safety feature. LOL

The cap, though can be opened is not so easy to open up. And there is no such safety feature. Also its under the tank cowl and a bit tough to reach so I wouldn't worry much.

And I will say it again. Find a good parking spot and cover the bike up. It'll sufficiently deter prying eyes and monkey thoughts.

**Balgi** · 11-16-2014, 03:10 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by s1d View Post

Not ebay. There is this person Mr.Dhaval from Mumbai (you can watch his videos on youtube, let me know if you want his contact info) who sells a custom made side stand bypass device and also the oil filler cap which requires a spanner to open and cant be opened with bare hands.

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The coolant cap, rear brake reservoir cap and oil filler cap can be easily opened by anyone on the d200/d390. anyway the oil filler cap on most bikes can easily be accessed and removed with bare hands.
So here is what i have done:
1. Along with the delivery of my bike, i bought one each of the coolant cap, rear brake reservoir cap and oil filler cap.
2. I put a tape (nice strong duct tape, or you can use the regular brown tape too) around the coolant cap and rear brake reservoir cap, so that I will at least know if someone has messed with it, and it helps keeping people attention away from these when they are masked.
3. Since I am paranoid, I decided to get the relatively better after market oil filler cap that cannot be opened easily with bare hands and requires a spanner to open.

Yeah thanks but first can you tell me how much it cost? And also, does he also sell the power parts? Coz I need the anodized brake fluid reservoir caps as well and some other stuff. Can you please inquire and let me know?
Thanx. Pm me.

**wallpapers123** · 11-16-2014, 09:21 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

I got a free check up of my bike here at KTM Baner showroom as part of their free check up program. They used the motul chain cleaner and motul chain lube and my god the difference is tremendous. I never used this particular brand before on my bike but the difference is huge. The bike feels almost like new. The down shift are so much smoother now.

**Janesh.J** · 11-17-2014, 12:34 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by Vysakh.M.S View Post

The coolant cap can be opened by anyone right? Is there any safety feature for it? Like any other type of cap etc with lock or something like that.

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You can use a hose clamp. Do not over tighten it which may lead to breaking the cap, but tight enough to stay in place. Once in place the cap can only be partially rotated so no chance of getting it opened. Below is a picture. Same can be done for the rear brake fluid cap.

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Originally posted by robsy View Post

Janesh , if you read after this post you will know that I ended up changing my fuel pump and now happy revving . Better check the pump

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Originally posted by Balgi View Post

Replace under warranty is what I meant. Ktm fuel pumps if broken cannot be fixed at all. They are utterly plastic and fragile. There's only one way to tell if its broken, that is to throw the ignition switch and listen to the pump. If it sounds forced or laggy then replace. Ktm fuel pumps work by increasing fuel pressure as per rpm and if broken the fuel pressure will drop resulting in lag. Replacing fuel filter sometimes improves hot engine fuel pressure but cold starts will still be a problem. That is at times the pump will increase pressure and at times the pressure drops. Pressure must remain constant at all times or too much fuel enters the engine causing the plug to short out.

[MENTION=72198]Balgi[/MENTION], it seems you described my problem nearly perfectly. Thanks guys. So i guess i will have to go for a fuel pump change. today my bike stalled and refused to start until 10-15 mins. Repeated cranking brought it slowly to life. Seemed like there was no fuel going in.

**OverSealous** · 11-17-2014, 01:02 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by TheMost View Post

Guys, just yesterday i gave my bike for first service.
The service guy recommend me to use motul 4T engine oil instead of the default and it would cost 1550.
Should i go for it.
Is it necessary ?

Hey, what was the size of the bottle???

make sure the grade is 10W 50 dude, castrol could be another option

**Balgi** · 11-17-2014, 05:08 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by Janesh.J View Post

You can use a hose clamp. Do not over tighten it which may lead to breaking the cap, but tight enough to stay in place. Once in place the cap can only be partially rotated so no chance of getting it opened. Below is a picture. Same can be done for the rear brake fluid cap.

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[MENTION=72198]Balgi[/MENTION], it seems you described my problem nearly perfectly. Thanks guys. So i guess i will have to go for a fuel pump change. today my bike stalled and refused to start until 10-15 mins. Repeated cranking brought it slowly to life. Seemed like there was no fuel going in.

Wait. Did it stall while stationary? Or did it stall with a krrrrrrrrrrr sound while riding? If its the latter then you're engine seized. Contrary to popular belief the engine does start after seizing unless piston melted. So if its that then you're getting a new engine under warranty.

**plexus** · 11-17-2014, 06:22 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

hello fellow riders , i stay in mysore tomorrow i ll be getting my KTM 200 , but the price of tankpad sticker and tank cap sticker is worrying me here in mysore they are charging me 2040 rs for tank pad sticker and rs 2550 for tank cap sticker . are they ripping me off or is this the genuine price ??

**AkshayA** · 11-17-2014, 06:52 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by plexus View Post

hello fellow riders , i stay in mysore tomorrow i ll be getting my KTM 200 , but the price of tankpad sticker and tank cap sticker is worrying me here in mysore they are charging me 2040 rs for tank pad sticker and rs 2550 for tank cap sticker . are they ripping me off or is this the genuine price ??

The cost is printed on the Power Parts itself and they are generally too expensive. Last time I checked, the tankpad was 2k, not sure about tank cap sticker.

**Vysakh.M.S** · 11-17-2014, 07:41 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by Janesh.J View Post

You can use a hose clamp. Do not over tighten it which may lead to breaking the cap, but tight enough to stay in place. Once in place the cap can only be partially rotated so no chance of getting it opened. Below is a picture. Same can be done for the rear brake fluid cap.

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Thank you. This looks good.

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What is the optimum RPM for gear changing in Duke 200 so it is better for the bike and i can get a decent fuel efficiency? (Both Up shift and Downshift).

Felt a small vibration on the gear and brake pedals. (hardly noticeable) Is it normal? Or should i ask them during the first service only?

**Balgi** · 11-17-2014, 08:17 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by plexus View Post

hello fellow riders , i stay in mysore tomorrow i ll be getting my KTM 200 , but the price of tankpad sticker and tank cap sticker is worrying me here in mysore they are charging me 2040 rs for tank pad sticker and rs 2550 for tank cap sticker . are they ripping me off or is this the genuine price ??

Well.............. Yes and No.
You see ktm power parts are not made here but have to be imported from Austria. So part cost+import charges+customs duties= really costly shit.
Instead get a good tank pad off the internet. Its a much cheaper and much more hassle free deal.

**plexus** · 11-17-2014, 08:36 PM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by Balgi View Post

Well.............. Yes and No.
You see ktm power parts are not made here but have to be imported from Austria. So part cost+import charges+customs duties= really costly shit.
Instead get a good tank pad off the internet. Its a much cheaper and much more hassle free deal.

thanks a lot balgi , ill start searching for them right away.

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thanks akshay i will looks for these online only . as suggested by balgi. i would literally save 4 k.

**s1d** · 11-18-2014, 12:42 AM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by Janesh.J View Post

You can use a hose clamp. Do not over tighten it which may lead to breaking the cap, but tight enough to stay in place. Once in place the cap can only be partially rotated so no chance of getting it opened. Below is a picture. Same can be done for the rear brake fluid cap.

the hose clamp looks like it will do the job on the coolant cap (because it seems to be restricting movement in that small area). i will get one soon.
but do you think it works on the rear brake fluid reservoir , where you can simply twist it off ? I wish ktm had this screwed down like on the honda (like the cbr150r, which also has a plastic reservoir but the cap is neatly screwed down)

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Originally posted by plexus View Post

thanks a lot balgi , ill start searching for them right away.

thanks akshay i will looks for these online only . as suggested by balgi. i would literally save 4 k.

Try and get a original yamaha r15 tank pad or something that costs less than 700 approx of reputable brands. If you ask me why, then let me tell you that the ktm power part tank pad costs what you have mentioned... while the entire tank outer cover itself is only around 1200rs !!
I'd rather not use a tank pad, and maybe put on a plain black sticker on that area(since mine is a black bike).. or just leave it as is.
Do not buy those cheap monster tank pads that are doing the rounds on snapdeal/ebay etc. Only yesterday I met a rider that used this on his cbr and man it was a mess.. peeling off at places leaving black residue on the tank.

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Originally posted by Vysakh.M.S View Post

What is the optimum RPM for gear changing in Duke 200 so it is better for the bike and i can get a decent fuel efficiency? (Both Up shift and Downshift).

Felt a small vibration on the gear and brake pedals. (hardly noticeable) Is it normal? Or should i ask them during the first service only?

from what i have observed, the first three gears around 5000rpm, the next three around 6500 rpm seems to be good balance during up shifts.
downshifts I can't tell you exact numbers because, i always rev match and downshift. I learn't that from experience.. I did not know of the term 'rev match' or its related benefits but i had been doing it since my early days of riding..because it felt right to me the way the engine/gear shifting responded.

I did a long ride on sunday (175km approx) and kept it under 7500rpm since my d200 had done only around 590km. The speeds maintained for 75% of the ride was between 85-95 in 6th gear.. briefly touched 100 a few times and it does 100@7500 rpm. I found out the fuel efficiency was around 33kmpl.. with the console showing 37kmpl.

**Vysakh.M.S** · 11-18-2014, 01:09 AM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by s1d View Post

from what i have observed, the first three gears around 5000rpm, the next three around 6500 rpm seems to be good balance during up shifts.
downshifts I can't tell you exact numbers because, i always rev match and downshift. I learn't that from experience.. I did not know of the term 'rev match' or its related benefits but i had been doing it since my early days of riding..because it felt right to me the way the engine/gear shifting responded.

I did a long ride on sunday (175km approx) and kept it under 7500rpm since my d200 had done only around 590km. The speeds maintained for 75% of the ride was between 85-95 in 6th gear.. briefly touched 100 a few times and it does 100@7500 rpm. I found out the fuel efficiency was around 33kmpl.. with the console showing 37kmpl.

Thank you.
Can you explain the term rev match?? So that it helps me during downshifts.

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**Balgi** · 11-18-2014, 03:10 AM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by Vysakh.M.S View Post

Thank you.
Can you explain the term rev match?? So that it helps me during downshifts.

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People who have been riding a while know when the speed of the engine is the same as the speed of the rear wheel. And anyone who knows this has no trouble downshifting.
Essentially, rev matching means to match engine rpm to correct wheel speed to shift down. This reduces stress on the rider and the machine itself.

**s1d** · 11-18-2014, 03:36 AM

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Originally posted by Vysakh.M.S View Post

Thank you.
Can you explain the term rev match?? So that it helps me during downshifts.

I do not know how to explain it in words to make you understand. Infact i think its impossible to unless you see someone do it.
here are some videos that might help you: (these the much more powerful bikes so the growl/sound is much higher during the blip)

Motorcycle Throttle Blip. Sportbike Throttle Blipping. Kawasaki Ninja 636! How to Ride a Sportbike?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydU_MUZysCQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPq5gaA-XvIA Kick Ass Music Video! Click this link to see what i am talking about.

Motorcycle Rev Matching

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDLWmzomvZA

Going over how to rev match while downshifting! 2007 GSXR 600Question? leave a comment down below!!! Steps:1.) Know how much to blip throttle by simply downs...

You may also be doing this unintentionally.. but most riders don't. they just roll off the throttle, pull in clutch and go 'thad thad thad' on downshifting.
right way is to pull in clutch, blipping the throttle,downshifting -- practice.. but remember if you over rev it and downshift and then let the clutch go, you will lock up the rear and may end up skidding/falling off

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