Re: KTM 200 Duke

You will get max of one lakh rupees

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Re: KTM 200 Duke: Got mine...

Just go in and get your bike serviced at an interval of 5k Kms, forget about what manual says, they will use your free service coupon which will say "Service before 7500Kms to continue warranty" (in case of 2nd service). It will include oil change as it would have included in 7k interval. They cannot refuse to service your bike earlier than the specified interval and they cannot void warranty in any way for being early. If they do tell you so, just shoot an email to KTM.

It is your bike, and if you want to treat it better than what is specified in the manual, you have every right in the world to do so. Motul wont have tinkered in their internationally selling oil's manufacturing process, just because Bajaj thinks it should last longer.

Out of experience, 5k Km is the best interval for Motul engine oil and is a decent compromise between performance and money.

Cheers
Akshay


The free service coupon will be used at 5k Kms and he wont have to service it again at 7.5K kms. There is no rule barring the use of coupon before the due Kms.

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Hi guys,

Thanks for all the feedback. Everything seems to be interesting in here. There's a lot of information flowing in for all my queries. I'll keep all of the opinions in mind while making the decisions. I guess I'll just have to wait and see how things go and just go with my instinct on deciding what's best for the bike.

I made a visit to the service centre today asking them about the different questions that came to mind and it looks like they agree on most things suggested.
The engine oil part have them stick confidently on the 7.5k mark, but he (Amal) said it'll just have to be done on the basis of the usage.

I've purchased and will be doing the servicing at the Alwaye (Muttam) showroom. Anyone here familiar with the place? Is it trust worthy?
I've been treated very well so far and I'm hoping that rapport remains.

Couple of things that came up which I'm posting here as questions for which I'd appreciate your opinions...

1)Chain guard: I saw the picture of a 'Steel chain cover/guard' on the power parts section on the manual. Is it a good idea to have one fitted?
I suppose it's not going to help on the naked look feel, but if it's going to help in longevity of the chain life, I'd prefer having it any day.
I was told that it wasn't readily available and that it needs to be brought in from somewhere. What kind of price will I be looking at if I do decide to fit it and more importantly...is it worth it? The fibre/plastic cover they have on at the time of delivery doesn't look durable at all and I'm not convinced that's actually going to help in safeguarding the chain in any case. I presume it's a requirement legally to ensure smooth registration. What are your thoughts?

2) Tyre fixing: I was told by Amal that there is some sort of liquid and powder mixture that can be administered into the tyres that would make punctures a no brainer.
Some sort of sealing process is done even in case there is an incision made on the tyres or something. Is that actually true? And is it advisable to have it done?
The tyre puncturing in the middle of a ride has always haunted me, so if this thing...this liquid actually works, my stress level would be lesser and I'd have a lot more peace of mind. Anyone here who's actually got this stuff in their tyres? Also I was told that in case of a flat, there's no need for removing the wheel to fix the puncture as they are tubeless and just need that thread like thing mixed in adhesive to be inserted and positioned. Is that really how it works?


On another note, I've submitted my papers for the registration and I've also asked the agent for a certain number preference from the series running at the RTO. I was asked to pay Rs.3700 for it. Is that price about right? Or is there going to be any more money that I'll have to shell out?

My baby has crossed 130kms on the ODO after today's ride. I'm targeting about 30kms a day to get the 1000km service done as soon as i can. But i'm taking it slow and enjoying every bit. The weather has also been fine, so I've not 'dirtied' her yet.

Alright fellas...i'm signing off for the night.

As always...enjoy riding safe.

Melvin.

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Regarding the oil change, there is also an interesting fact that i missed pointing out. Though the service interval has been increased from 5000km to 7500km, the no. of days between service has not increased. Unless you clock a lot of miles, it is more likely that most people would have covered just around 4000-5000km max in the 120 day interval. If you fall under this category (i.e. approx 1000km a month) then when its time for the service you would have infact done just about 5000km and can also get the oil changed.
Only very few people clock 7500km in 4 months (120 day interval between services.)
So always keep an eye on the number no. of days to go for the service.. not going in time might cause you a missed free service.
In case you are doing a lot of miles, then just get the oil replaced at 4000km.. no need of using any service coupon. Just tip the guy 50 bucks and get only the oil changed.

A steel or whatever exotic metal chain guard is not necessary. The stock plastic one is just as good or bad. Unless the design of the metal unit is such that it covers the entire chain, its not going to help you with anything but maybe the looks, which are again subjective ! The stock plastic guard is pretty strong and holds up well.

Tire sealant's .. yes a few people sell such products and they do work (depending on the puncture type/location/size). Google "slime tire sealant" and also watch read about "motorcycle tubeless tire puncture repair". Tire sealant solutions are like a preventive/stop go solution, and the actual puncture repair can be done by using either a plug that's inserted from the outside (most common puncture repair) or a more labor intensive "mushroom patch" that's inserted from the inside after removing the tire (supposed to be a better way of fixing punctures)
I've had three punctures thus far and all were repaired using a locally available puncture strips that are inserted into the tire. They have held up pretty well.
Always inspect your tire before a long ride and also periodically to spot any embedded objects.. tubeless tires lose air slowly so a nail in the tire will cause air loss over a period of few days depending on the size of the nail/puncture.
I have a bottle of "Slime" that i purchased from the US, but yet to use it am saving it up for when i replace the tire.. its already clocked 12000km.

Re: KTM 200 Duke

"Regarding the oil change, there is also an interesting fact that i missed pointing out. Though the service interval has been increased from 5000km to 7500km, the no. of days between service has not increased."

- that's a very good point. I hadn't really noticed that. So it does look like I'll only be doing within 5000kms between services.

"So always keep an eye on the number no. of days to go for the service.. not going in time might cause you a missed free service. "

- can't let that happen!!!

"A steel or whatever exotic metal chain guard is not necessary. The stock plastic one is just as good or bad. Unless the design of the metal unit is such that it covers the entire chain, its not going to help you with anything but maybe the looks, which are again subjective ! The stock plastic guard is pretty strong and holds up well."


- I'll probably just skip the idea then. I'll just have a look at what kind of design it is.


"I have a bottle of "Slime" that i purchased from the US, but yet to use it am saving it up for when i replace the tire.. its already clocked 12000km."

- I'm taking that as a yes to get it done. And happy for you to reach 12k! I've got a long way to go.


Thank you for your inputs Sid.
Cheers

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Inputs from someone who has owned a D200 from the time it was released and a current RC390 owner.

When it comes to engine oil, I never changed until and unless it showed signs of break down. Fully synthetic oils can work well past 20k kms, I was and am still currently on 300v, other than the regular change of oil and fuel filters and a little wash other than the routine service, I never had much to do on the D200. Speak to the technicians. If you ask them not to change the oil, they usually skip it.

The myth that fully synthetic lasts only so and so kilometers is a load of bull. Examine your oil on a regular basis and change when you see signs of breakdown. 9/10 on a properly maintained motorcycle, it will last you at least half a year or more with maybe a top up here and there.

Re: KTM 200 Duke

I agree with the part on where you say 'change oil on signs of breakdown' - but most people are not that apt at noticing such things. So it's better to stick to a routine oil change at safe intervals of what the manufacturer mentions or a little earlier. For the ktm's that initially had only a 5000km interval, I wonder what changed in the bike (because i haven't seen any change in the oil) that has pushed the service interval to 7500km. The motul 7100 might be able to offer some protection at even 7000km but not as effective a protection if it was changed at 5000km intervals. Beyond 4500km I do feel some harshness set in on the 7100, but some people might not notice that. Again, if you are just pottering around town the oil might be good enough for 7500km.
Too many variables you see.. hence better safe than sorry.

FS oils lasting more than 20k ?! On these high revving, hard working small capacity machines with a oil sump of around 1.5litres ? IMO, No way.
Have you performed any oil analysis tests to confirm that ? If you are so confident of the oil life, then why dont you use the bajaj dts-i oil which officially claims that it will last 10000km ..and this is the oil that comes pre filled from the factory !

You tell me that on a car with oil sumps of 3.5 ~ 6litres that the FS will last 20k , I agree.. but on these 2 wheelers.. nope.
Rather than spending the extra on the 300v (which is again a debatable topic since it was made specifically for track use), I would rather use the 7100 and change every 5000km for a peace of mind.

Why did ktm india start using motul ? https://www.motul.com/in/en/business/1877
It was more of a customer push, rather than an initial company recommendation.. only later have they made motul their lubricating 'partner'

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Have I done tests? No, but I have experience on my side and the fact that I used the bike well beyond what was expected of it, should speak for itself. 90k kms without a single overhaul except the stator coil burning out. The bike was toured on, stripped down and raced on and used as a daily commuter.

I am not trying to argue over here, I only stated what I experienced during my tenure of owning a D200.

Oil technology has come a long way and why wouldn't you take advantage of the same.

As a matter of fact, I have used the Bajaj Dtsi mineral oil and all of my running in was on this wonderful oil before I switched to 300v.

Find me one unbiased study that says using old beyond a said number of kilometers is bad for the engine. If the oil is just lying around, I get it, it could turn to sludge but when you're running the engine that's out of the question.

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Only a proper oil analysis test will give the right picture.. but unfortunately i haven't come across a lab here that does oil analysis.
Now, oil that is lying in a can or in the sump unused will be good for a year in the sump or up to three (if its in the can)
When the engine is running, the oil is working and when oil is working, it breaks down. All those additives in the oil (detergent, VI modifiers etc..) start breaking down and their performance goes down.. and the breakdown depends on how and where the bike is used.
If you are able to run the same oil for 20k km on a small motorcycle then good for you ! I wouldn't advice someone else to do the same. Either stick to the manual or do it earlier if required is my motto.

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Hi everyone!
Could you all please help me out with this? I had a little accident about a week back. The bike crashed on the left side. Left leg guard has bended towards the engine and my gear lever has slightly gone up. And the small little plastic fairing right beneath the radiator has slightly shifted it's angle outward. But nothing else seems to have been damaged. Baby runs fine except for a slight shift to the left while riding at speeds less than 15 kmph. Basically it feels easy to lean the bike to the left than the right. What could be the problem? Forks? I'm going to visit the service center soon anyway but I'd like a little heads up. Thanks

Re: KTM 200 Duke

You might have a bent handlebar and all those other parts you have mentioned are cheap

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Thanks for replying but after a serious ride, I have come to the conclusion that the tree is a little out of alignment and yes the left side of the handlebar might have bent a tad bit towards the tank. I'm not worried about the other parts they won't cost me much but what about the handlebar and the triple tree? Do I have to completely replace the handlebar?

Accessories for Duke 200

Hi,

Can some one provide information where I can buy accessories for Duke 200. Mine is 2014 model and based in Pune. Following are some of important accessories I am looking for

1. Windsheild
2. Raditor Grill
3. Tank and Bag
4. Sliders
5. Extra light
6. Any thing else recommended.

Regards
Sanj

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Handlebar cost about 750 but Tee would cost you more than 3k. I had a fall some months back and had changed them [emoji29]

Re: Accessories for Duke 200

You could find most of those items in eBay. I've seen Advt. of windshields in Fb page of duke 200[emoji6]