Re: KTM 200 Duke

I got a paddock stand for 2500/- G A auto accessories, Mumbai.

The price of the paddock was 2200/- plus shipping charges 300/-.

Sid, I had a question. Today I filled up petrol full tank, and I can feel quite a difference in throttle response and smoothness. The bike was feeling sluggish when fuel was with low fuel level.

Is my fuel pump or injector all right?

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Read owners manual or refer a few pages back on this forum for explanation on adjusting chain. Going by your questions, I'd rather say you both read the manual (owners and workshop.. both easily available on the internet) and also watch carefully when its being done by a svc mechanic before you start monkeying with the tools. observation and a bit of common sense will teach you a lot.
the svc folks may be right, but only an inspection will tell you if its time to change the chain/sprocket kit. read up from some reputed source (manual will be a good starting point) on what sprocket/chain wear is/looks like to understand better.
as for you missing your service, its totally your fault and the svc was right in taking it in as the 3rd service.
there is no 'issue' here.
i don't know what your budget is, but owning an 'expensive' (expensive is a relative term) bike is going to entail some expenses which shouldn't be compared with say a less expensive motorcycle. A decent paddock stand will cost you anything above 2000rs. The guys at GA engineering sell one at a reasonable price/quality


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i've ridden many times (probably at-least once a month) with the 'low fuel level' , a couple of times clocking as much as 50-60km both on highways and city.
there was never any sluggishness or difference in throttle response, in fact earlier this evening it went in to low fuel level and there wasn't any difference. my bike has now covered around 23k km in close to two years and it has always behaved same whether on low or normal fuel level.
you can ask your svc to check the fuel pump i.e. do a pressure test and see if the readings are within spec. injectors usually don't go bad that early. maybe you can try a dose of adon p (additive sold at some indian oil petrol bunks, to be used at the rate of approx 1ml per litre of fuel) and see if that makes any difference.. i do find it gives a marginal improvement i.e. crispiness and helps holding the revs a little higher before up-shifting for my riding style, and the console shows at-least a 2+ kmpl in FE compared to without the additive

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Good I was about to ask this....
Name the fuel injector cleaner that you are using...
I'm thinking to get one for my bike too... As it's same as old as yours 23k in 2 yrs.

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I have used system g or adon p regularly i.e every other time I fill fuel. There is a noticeable difference in throttle response and increase in Fe. As for the cleanliness, I assume it's doing its job since I haven't had any issues.
I also picked up a bottle of abro FI cleaner an year ago and just use it before giving bike for service.. Haven't noticed any difference on using it and I continue to use just to empty out the bottle.
My recommendation is you try adon p (usually sold at IOC bunks) or system g(sold at bharat petroleum or online at Roger motors). Use them at recommended dose of 1ml per litre of fuel.

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Thanks for your input I will buy the paddock stand from them.
I understand missing the service interval was my fault.
Only issue from the starting has been with the duke is only with the chain.
How do you guys wash the duke ?
I was told in sevcie center first should air pressure wash them with water and then again pressure wash with air because the water stagnation may interfere with the electronics and sensors.

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I spray kerosene on the chain sprocket and let it be for 2-3 mins. Then I clean the sprocket and the chain with a toothbrush and then use an old cloth with kerosene to clean the chain. Wash it off a n d use the auto shampoo to wash off the kerosene.

After some time when bike is dry then I apply lube.

I usually clean and lube the chain when I wash my bike biweekly.

Sid, I will try that additive and see if there are any changes. How do you use the fi cleaner and also in these 23k kms have you got the fi injector cleaned?

I got my fi injector and throttle bodies cleaned at 10k and intend to clean again at 20k.

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Get your chain adjusted at the service center and watch them how they do it. No need for paddock stand, I use a simple plain rode to lift the bike around 1 inch of the ground and it gets the job done. It's too early to change sprocket and brake pads. I was told at 8K that I have to change the chain/sprocket, but finally I got them replaced at around 20K. If you ignore adjusting chain slack, you can land yourself in a very risky situation like me, where the chain came off the sprocket but luckily I was very slow so managed somehow. If you miss the second service, your engine warranty can get void, because those 3 free services at regular intervals keep your warranty intact. Please get it rectified.

I wash my bike with car shampoo after a gentle spray all over ( top to bottom ) with normal water pipe at home. If you are going to lube your chain make sure you clean your chain before first wash. Then dry it using good quality microfibre cloth, use a wax polish to all the plastic parts. For fibre ( black ) use the dashboard spray. Use the tyre cleaner/shiner ( silicon ) on the tyres after you are done washing. It's a tedious task but you will get more closer to your bike and it will always have that new showroom glow or better. Also after a wash go for a quick ride if weather is clean to make the bike completely dry.

Cheers.

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Hello thanks your suggestions.
Who can I get that warranty thing rectified.

SVC guys are adamant on changing the sprocket
A month ago for a month I rode for 100KM everyday due to work issues. Dint take care of the chain then I guess that's where whole issue was or mayb I am just lubing my chain but not adjusting the slack.

I l follow your washing tips.
SVC guys told should dry the water on bike and other parts with air pressure.

Can you post a picture of how you lift the bike with the help of rod.

Any method or step by step procedure to understand and adjust chain slack in home.

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Some mods done to nuke

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I haven't touched the injector or throttle body for cleaning so far. might get the tb cleaned end of sept when service is due at around 25k km.
one other thing that might have caused that low fuel issue jerkiness might be an air lock.
also try to replicate it again with low fuel warning and see if the issue is consistent, maybe keep the fuel lid open and see if it responds normally.
at every service i would advice you ask them to blow some compressed air thru the vent pipe that hangs down from the petrol tank.. just to ensure it isn't clogged up.

some of the things i've planned for the 25k service (will be almost 2 yrs end of sept)
all fluids change (brake, engine oil, coolant, fork oil) - apart from engine oil and right side fork oil, the rest are what came with the bike.
tb cleaning
spark plug (i change it every 10k) - will probably get the ngk iridium and try it out just for the heck of it. i have no issues with the stock plug.
brake caliper service.. especially the rear , it's been 10k km since it was last greased.
apart from these, just the usual stuff like changing filters and a wash.
I don't see the chain giving up anytime soon ! will probably go upto 30k km.

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not only the free services, but it has to be serviced at the specified intervals for the duration of the warranty i.e. 2 yrs or 30k km (whichever is earlier)
most svc will honor warranty if you miss one service (like in his case), but the ball is in their court..

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Hey bro,

Which tyre cleaner/shiner do you use.?

Cheers

Re: KTM 200 Duke

This will help.....

Re: KTM 200 Duke

Guys, quick question is labor charge applicable on rear view mirrors? Even though I am buying off the shelf.

Re: KTM 200 Duke

If you get it installed by the service centre,
Total= Part cost+labour

If you just buy the part and install it yourself later
Total= part cost

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Kolkata vip road ktm told me that labor is applicable on all parts. Irrespective if you get it installed by them or not.