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  • Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

    Originally posted by GauravD View Post
    Damn i love u for this !! I think you just found a solution to my issues of dull pick up at the lower revs. My carb is tuned at 1.5 i think. I will take it and get it up to 2.0 and hopefully it should rectify stuff.

    However the mileage which you have mentioned at 2.0 is what i get at 1.5. How much do you reckon that would change ? I regularly do 120 k runs on the highway every morning when riding to office.

    Btw is this the CO setting or the turns ?
    I think he refers to the CO. Because afr screw can all the way go beyond four turns. I think you should get through this thread, where he mentioned about the info that came from Bajaj itself



    To know your current setting, turn all the way in... The thread says stock should be around 2.5 turns out from 0 and the CO should be 1.5-2.0 i guess.

    Plus the afr fine tunes the pilot jet, not the main... One should depend on CO based tuning for proper results.
    Last edited by jbm_guy; 02-02-2016, 09:29 AM.

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    • Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

      Originally posted by GauravD View Post
      Damn i love u for this !! I think you just found a solution to my issues of dull pick up at the lower revs. My carb is tuned at 1.5 i think. I will take it and get it up to 2.0 and hopefully it should rectify stuff.

      However the mileage which you have mentioned at 2.0 is what i get at 1.5. How much do you reckon that would change ? I regularly do 120 k runs on the highway every morning when riding to office.

      Btw is this the CO setting or the turns ?
      Originally posted by jbm_guy View Post
      I think he refers to the CO. Because afr screw can all the way go beyond four turns. I think you should get through this thread, where he mentioned about the info that came from Bajaj itself



      To know your current setting, turn all the way in... The thread says stock should be around 2.5 turns out from 0 and the CO should be 1.5-2.0 i guess.

      Plus the afr fine tunes the pilot jet, not the main... One should depend on CO based tuning for proper results.
      Sorry for the confusion. That is turns. Didn't go beyond 2.5 because you see, I mentioned 'beast' at 2.5. No point in opening the screw more and wasting petrol. These are settings for MY bike. Yours may or may not vary from mine. If your bike is sluggish in low revs, the best thing you can do is to turn the screw half turn anticlockwise (loosen) and see if there is any improvement. A difference of half turn makes a difference in mileage of 2-3, that's what I found. But that's in city/town in low/medium revs. On the highway, the difference will be LESS because you are mainly using the mixture from the main jet, if you ride above 4K rpm. Now, if performance in low revs improves, but is not satisfactory, loosen half turn more and see.

      If you don't find any difference when you have loosened half or one turn, better return to the original position and troubleshoot other things.
      Last edited by krixna; 02-02-2016, 11:08 AM.

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      • Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

        Originally posted by jbm_guy View Post
        I think he refers to the CO. Because afr screw can all the way go beyond four turns. I think you should get through this thread, where he mentioned about the info that came from Bajaj itself



        To know your current setting, turn all the way in... The thread says stock should be around 2.5 turns out from 0 and the CO should be 1.5-2.0 i guess.

        Plus the afr fine tunes the pilot jet, not the main... One should depend on CO based tuning for proper results.
        Thats good info bro...

        A thought just came up ..

        There is a point mentioned in the above link, I quote "(2) the exhaust gas analyzer machine's nozzle should not be put into exhaust end outlet, because the catalytic converter reduces the harmful gas emission, so the PUC machine nozzle has to be inserted before cat-con, and company has provided a bolt specifically for this purpose in exhaust before cat-con, which can be opened with a 10 no. spanner. open the bolt and insert the nozzle of gas analyzer there, and then take readings."

        Whenever I have taken my bike for CO tuning they just stick the analyzer nozzle into the exhaust pipe and then set it at around 1.5 - 1.6 ... Considering the fact that the cat-con reduces the amount of harmful emissions does it mean that CO readings are skewed; In which case any carb tuned this way to a setting of about 1.5 is running rich if we would measure it via the bolt provided for the same ? Any sense in what I am thinking ?

        Some background based on this thought process - During my tour I got an overall average of 38 kmpl which were highway speed runs. Later on when I took the bike for tuning it turned out that it been running slightly lean. The svc guy had tuned it to 0.9 (based on PUC readings) which actually meant that it was actually more than about 0.9 since the CO would have been higher before the cat-con. Now that I got the bike tuned to 1.5 again through the exhaust pipe the mileage has dropped to 32 - 33 since I may be running rich .. Savvy ? Any thoughts ?

        _______________________________
        As I lay my rubber on the street
        I pray for traction I can keep
        But if I spin and begin to slide
        I pray, dear God please protect my ride
        And if I lay down my bike today
        I pray to God I walk away...
        I walk away to ride another day

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        • Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

          Originally posted by GauravD View Post
          Thats good info bro...

          A thought just came up ..

          There is a point mentioned in the above link, I quote "(2) the exhaust gas analyzer machine's nozzle should not be put into exhaust end outlet, because the catalytic converter reduces the harmful gas emission, so the PUC machine nozzle has to be inserted before cat-con, and company has provided a bolt specifically for this purpose in exhaust before cat-con, which can be opened with a 10 no. spanner. open the bolt and insert the nozzle of gas analyzer there, and then take readings."

          Whenever I have taken my bike for CO tuning they just stick the analyzer nozzle into the exhaust pipe and then set it at around 1.5 - 1.6 ... Considering the fact that the cat-con reduces the amount of harmful emissions does it mean that CO readings are skewed; In which case any carb tuned this way to a setting of about 1.5 is running rich if we would measure it via the bolt provided for the same ? Any sense in what I am thinking ?

          Some background based on this thought process - During my tour I got an overall average of 38 kmpl which were highway speed runs. Later on when I took the bike for tuning it turned out that it been running slightly lean. The svc guy had tuned it to 0.9 (based on PUC readings) which actually meant that it was actually more than about 0.9 since the CO would have been higher before the cat-con. Now that I got the bike tuned to 1.5 again through the exhaust pipe the mileage has dropped to 32 - 33 since I may be running rich .. Savvy ? Any thoughts ?
          Did u try the 100ml test?

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          • Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

            Originally posted by xplod566 View Post
            Couple of thing s i want to know brother considering you have done the basic troubleshooting like Chain slackness check etc ...
            Gaurav whats the Kilometers reading in ODO?
            When was the last time you tuned your carb?(Kiloemeters would help)
            When was the last time the clutch plate was changed?(Kiloemeters would help)
            When was the last time you changed the Diapharm?(Kiloemeters would help)
            Yea bro got the aesthetics checked -

            Chain slack - checked / cleaned and lubed
            Clutch play - checked

            ODO reading - 12,880 kms

            Kms since carb tune - Approx 1000 kms (guess)
            Kms since clutch plate change - 184 kms
            Kms since chain sproket change - 184 kms (it was fine however had to get it changed due to uneven slack)
            Kms since diaphragm change - 12,880 kms Never got that changed

            OT - Is it diapharm or diaphragm ?

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            Originally posted by xplod566 View Post
            Did u try the 100ml test?
            The only 100 ml test I know bro existed in Organic chemistry !! Mind enlightening me ?

            _______________________________
            As I lay my rubber on the street
            I pray for traction I can keep
            But if I spin and begin to slide
            I pray, dear God please protect my ride
            And if I lay down my bike today
            I pray to God I walk away...
            I walk away to ride another day

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            • Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

              Originally posted by GauravD View Post
              Yea bro got the aesthetics checked -

              Chain slack - checked / cleaned and lubed
              Clutch play - checked

              ODO reading - 12,880 kms

              Kms since carb tune - Approx 1000 kms (guess)
              Kms since clutch plate change - 184 kms
              Kms since chain sproket change - 184 kms (it was fine however had to get it changed due to uneven slack)
              Kms since diaphragm change - 12,880 kms[emoji14]Never got that changed

              OT - Is it diapharm or diaphragm ?
              Sorry diapharm. Well the problem lies in the diapharm.you need to change it as that's the reason why you see less pickup.just visit any SVC and ask them to change the diapharm and a spring which comes with it.costs some 300rs.

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              • Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

                Originally posted by GauravD View Post
                Yea bro got the aesthetics checked -

                Chain slack - checked / cleaned and lubed
                Clutch play - checked

                ODO reading - 12,880 kms

                Kms since carb tune - Approx 1000 kms (guess)
                Kms since clutch plate change - 184 kms
                Kms since chain sproket change - 184 kms (it was fine however had to get it changed due to uneven slack)
                Kms since diaphragm change - 12,880 kms[emoji14]Never got that changed

                OT - Is it diapharm or diaphragm ?

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                The only 100 ml test I know bro existed in Organic chemistry !! Mind enlightening me ?
                Haha.lol.
                Well they have a can of 500ml I think where they disconnect the fuel pipe and then connect the can with the fuel pipe from carb.after that they pour 100 ml fuel and then ask youto drive.if it goes 3.7 kms that means your mileage is 3.7 x 10 =37kmpl.this is the most authentic way of checking your mileage.also you can find in any bike repair shop.they will only do the test ,its just that you ride the bike.

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                • Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

                  Originally posted by xplod566 View Post
                  Sorry diapharm. Well the problem lies in the diapharm.you need to change it as that's the reason why you see less pickup.just visit any SVC and ask them to change the diapharm and a spring which comes with it.costs some 300rs.
                  How freq does the diapharm need to be changed ?

                  Did I mention that the dull low revs happened post changing of the clutch plates and sprocket and since I was there standing on the head of the svc guy I know he did not fiddle with the AFR. Could it be linked to the Diapharm ?

                  I mean there was certainly an impact of the clutch plates and the chain which has defo improved however the bite is still missing. Guess no harm in trying the diapharm trick ..

                  Now the big question .. what does one say to the svc a-holes since they try and find every reason to avoid having to open the bike !

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                  Originally posted by xplod566 View Post
                  Haha.lol.
                  Well they have a can of 500ml I think where they disconnect the fuel pipe and then connect the can with the fuel pipe from carb.after that they pour 100 ml fuel and then ask youto drive.if it goes 3.7 kms that means your mileage is 3.7 x 10 =37kmpl.this is the most authentic way of checking your mileage.also you can find in any bike repair shop.they will only do the test ,its just that you ride the bike.
                  Ahhh thats nice gotta try that one out ... Feeling enlightened already ... guess I do not need to go to Bodh Gaya now

                  _______________________________
                  As I lay my rubber on the street
                  I pray for traction I can keep
                  But if I spin and begin to slide
                  I pray, dear God please protect my ride
                  And if I lay down my bike today
                  I pray to God I walk away...
                  I walk away to ride another day

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                  • Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

                    Originally posted by GauravD View Post
                    How freq does the diapharm need to be changed ?

                    Did I mention that the dull low revs happened post changing of the clutch plates and sprocket and since I was there standing on the head of the svc guy I know he did not fiddle with the AFR. Could it be linked to the Diapharm ?

                    I mean there was certainly an impact of the clutch plates and the chain which has defo improved however the bite is still missing. Guess no harm in trying the diapharm trick ..

                    Now the big question .. what does one say to the svc a-holes since they try and find every reason to avoid having to open the bike !

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                    Ahhh thats nice gotta try that one out ... Feeling enlightened already ... guess I do not need to go to Bodh Gaya now
                    Well yes they are Approved A-Holes by bajaj no doubt about it. I doubt it has anything to do with clutch as I think new clutch plate shouldn't have any problem.regarding diapharm just tell them u need the diapharm and spring changed.doesn't matter whatever they say just get it changed. It depends but i feel 13K kms is too long if you can feel the drip in pickup.others might say that its been 20000kms and still they didn't change it but its actually they couldn't feel the pickup being down yet.but before that go to SVC and keep the co level to 1.61 and then do a 100 ml test and see how many kms bike runs

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                    • Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

                      Originally posted by xplod566 View Post
                      Haha.lol.
                      Well they have a can of 500ml I think where they disconnect the fuel pipe and then connect the can with the fuel pipe from carb.after that they pour 100 ml fuel and then ask youto drive.if it goes 3.7 kms that means your mileage is 3.7 x 10 =37kmpl.this is the most authentic way of checking your mileage.also you can find in any bike repair shop.they will only do the test ,its just that you ride the bike.
                      The correct method to do a 100 ml test is, (1) first disconnect the fuel hose, then ride (or keep engine running in neutral) till petrol finishes and engine stops. Then (2) connect the 100 ml and ride till it finishes and engine stops. If you don't do the first step, you will have to watch the bottle and note the reading exactly when the connecting hose from the bottle goes empty (requires transparent hose). If you ride till it stops without doing the first step, you get mileage for 100 ml plus what was inside the carb (15-20 ml I guess, above the main jet level).
                      Last edited by krixna; 02-02-2016, 01:26 PM.

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                      • Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

                        Originally posted by GauravD View Post
                        Hey bro... Was facing a dead pickup at lower end rpms. The crispiness of the throttle was dead, Top end limited to about 7.5 k rpm thereby limiting top speed to about 105 - 110.

                        Somehow still feel strange that just resetting the carb just set everything right. Next step - work on the vibes but I am so glad to have my devil back.
                        I was also facing similar kind of issues. But I had lot more like the acceleration wasn't constant and the engine used to gives hiccups and kind of resist from being revved. Mileage figure had dropped and the engine was harsh. So finally changed the service centre and have given my bike at another service centre they told me that they will keep the bike for 1-2 days and check it thoroughly. I hope this time the issue gets resolved.

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                        • Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

                          Originally posted by krixna View Post
                          The correct method to do a 100 ml test is, (1) first disconnect the fuel hose, then ride (or keep engine running in neutral) till petrol finishes and engine stops. Then (2) connect the 100 ml and ride till it finishes and engine stops. If you don't do the first step, you will have to watch the bottle and note the reading exactly when the connecting hose from the bottle goes empty (requires transparent hose). If you ride till it stops without doing the first step, you get mileage for 100 ml plus what was inside the carb (15-20 ml I guess, above the main jet level).
                          Pretty analytical you are mate

                          _______________________________
                          As I lay my rubber on the street
                          I pray for traction I can keep
                          But if I spin and begin to slide
                          I pray, dear God please protect my ride
                          And if I lay down my bike today
                          I pray to God I walk away...
                          I walk away to ride another day

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                          • Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

                            Originally posted by GauravD View Post
                            Pretty analytical you are mate
                            Yeah its important to drain the fuel.also when they do the test ideally they will drain the fuel from the drain pipe.

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                            • Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

                              Originally posted by GauravD View Post
                              A thought just came up ..

                              There is a point mentioned in the above link, I quote "(2) the exhaust gas analyzer machine's nozzle should not be put into exhaust end outlet, because the catalytic converter reduces the harmful gas emission, so the PUC machine nozzle has to be inserted before cat-con, and company has provided a bolt specifically for this purpose in exhaust before cat-con, which can be opened with a 10 no. spanner. open the bolt and insert the nozzle of gas analyzer there, and then take readings."

                              Whenever I have taken my bike for CO tuning they just stick the analyzer nozzle into the exhaust pipe and then set it at around 1.5 - 1.6 ... Considering the fact that the cat-con reduces the amount of harmful emissions does it mean that CO readings are skewed; In which case any carb tuned this way to a setting of about 1.5 is running rich if we would measure it via the bolt provided for the same ? Any sense in what I am thinking ?
                              Guys any thoughts around this ? [MENTION=72200]xplod566[/MENTION], [MENTION=75352]jbm_guy[/MENTION], [MENTION=74543]krixna[/MENTION], [MENTION=54720]kany1991[/MENTION]

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                              Originally posted by xplod566 View Post
                              Yeah its important to drain the fuel.also when they do the test ideally they will drain the fuel from the drain pipe.
                              Yup makes sense

                              _______________________________
                              As I lay my rubber on the street
                              I pray for traction I can keep
                              But if I spin and begin to slide
                              I pray, dear God please protect my ride
                              And if I lay down my bike today
                              I pray to God I walk away...
                              I walk away to ride another day

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                              • Re: Pulsar 200 NS Owners Review and Experiences

                                Originally posted by GauravD View Post
                                Guys any thoughts around this ? [MENTION=72200]xplod566[/MENTION], [MENTION=75352]jbm_guy[/MENTION], [MENTION=74543]krixna[/MENTION], [MENTION=54720]kany1991[/MENTION]

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                                Yup makes sense
                                Are you from bangalore ?

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