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**krish2778** · 06-15-2013, 09:25 AM

Re: Pulsar 200 NS

Originally posted by princesirohi View Post

well, my reason for desire of change in tyre is for better wet traction, not for looks. so i will prefer either sports demon or MRF rear tyre of R15 V2, without changing the size. so i am looking for 130/70-17 pirelli sports demon, unfortunately, it seems that it is not available. and for front, it is more difficult to find a better tyre. anybody know any good tyre shop in pune which deals in imported tyres...??

I don't quite understand your bringing of PSD and wet grip, you are going to have a really bad time in rain and gravel with the psd. Soft compounds are not all that great for such kind of conditions, have a look at dunlop tuffgrip or ceat vertigo for good wet grip.

Originally posted by broken87 View Post

Though my signature says "im redlining NS all the time".. It's not accurate lol cos I haven't been getting many opportunities to ride hard and fast in these crowded Noida/Delhi roads. Infact the highest speed I can usually take my NS to is just around 100 or so. I haven't done a top speed run on an expressway in a long time and the last time I hit it, it was 131 kmph and I simply refused to go above that cos it was getting scary (I was a new rider back then).
But I did it today, a proper top speed run on Yamuna Expressway @4300 kms on ODO. While most NS'ians have claimed to hit 150+ kmph (with 9% speedo error ? so real is 136kmph), I was only able to achieve 141 kmph and it was scarily fast yeah. mostly because that traffic was alot even on this expressway along with those slow moving 3 wheelers zzZ. Just curious if my real speed was just 127 kmph considering 9% speedo error. or really around 136 kmph, the actual claimed top speed. not that I care much about top speed, it's just curiousity. I was totally exhilarated after my run though. and incidentally my bike moving@ 140kmph easily overtook a dragging P220F (with respect!) which seemed to be going at it's top speed. Weird stuff, btw the post isn't meaning to offend any P220F owners. Just sharing my experience!
Bike was super smooth all the way, still is. Had almost zero vibrations going at 140kmph in 6th, except minor good feel vibs on handle bars.
Poor stability at 100-120kmph ! I just can't believe the wind blast and how unstable the bike becomes over 120kmph, it's scary.
The bike seemed smoother and happier after this run.
Could this lower speedo indicated 140kmph be cos I didn't shift all my gears at the highest available RPM, meaning 10500-10800 RPM ? I just shifted randomly around 8k-10k. I don't like to redline my NS in 1st and 2nd gear :/
After this I really feel like test riding a P220F and seeing how it feels like at 120kmph+

Honestly mate, in the 220, it can handle speeds upto 120 without much problems, the wind blast being the only worry, but above 120kmph it really requires a lot of concentration and a crouched position for better control, vibration is another obvious factor, but nothing uncontrollable in that respect , anyways which wouldn't be a comfortable stance to ride in for long and bringing back the bike to control speeds from that kind of speed at emergency situation is always bringing a big element of risk into the picture.
NS being a naked bike, the wind blast problem would be even more prominent and would be more uncomfortable at such speeds, even with a crouched position.

Cheers
Ride Safe
Krishna

**Bornon17th** · 06-15-2013, 10:37 AM

Re: Pulsar 200 NS

Originally posted by princesirohi View Post

thanks, will check it out on monday, can you give a more exact location like to the left of e-square or right or infornt etc.

The shop is "Poona Scooters". Ph no. (020) 27420249, 27422131.

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**princesirohi** · 06-15-2013, 10:37 AM

Re: Pulsar 200 NS

Originally posted by broken87 View Post

.... But I did it today, a proper top speed run on Yamuna Expressway @4300 kms on ODO. While most NS'ians have claimed to hit 150+ kmph (with 9% speedo error ? so real is 136kmph), I was only able to achieve 141 kmph and it was scarily fast yeah. mostly because that traffic was alot even on this expressway along with those slow moving 3 wheelers zzZ. Just curious if my real speed was just 127 kmph considering 9% speedo error. or really around 136 kmph, the actual claimed top speed. not that I care much about top speed, it's just curiousity. I was totally exhilarated after my run though. and incidentally my bike moving@ 140kmph easily overtook a dragging P220F (with respect!) which seemed to be going at it's top speed. Weird stuff, btw the post isn't meaning to offend any P220F owners. Just sharing my experience!
Bike was super smooth all the way, still is. Had almost zero vibrations going at 140kmph in 6th, except minor good feel vibs on handle bars.
Poor stability at 100-120kmph ! I just can't believe the wind blast and how unstable the bike becomes over 120kmph, it's scary.
The bike seemed smoother and happier after this run.
Could this lower speedo indicated 140kmph be cos I didn't shift all my gears at the highest available RPM, meaning 10500-10800 RPM ? I just shifted randomly around 8k-10k. I don't like to redline my NS in 1st and 2nd gear :/
After this I really feel like test riding a P220F and seeing how it feels like at 120kmph+

bro, its good that you tested the top speed of your bike, however top speed depends a lot on rider weight, road incline/decline, wind speed and direction... etc so don't worry.

btw, if you read your owner's manual or go to bajaj website, the claimed top speed of P200NS is only 136 KMPH.

what is your weight..??

Originally posted by thegeneboy View Post

Even the Ninja 250 rear its a good option.. Its IRC road winner I guess...

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are they available in india..?? what is the size..??

Originally posted by krish2778 View Post

I don't quite understand your bringing of PSD and wet grip, you are going to have a really bad time in rain and gravel with the psd. Soft compounds are not all that great for such kind of conditions, have a look at dunlop tuffgrip or ceat vertigo for good wet grip.

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i do not agree with you mate, to get a good grip, you need soft compound tyres with good silica content in rubber and a tread pattern that is better in channelizing water out of contact patch, another thing is how quickly the tyre heats up and attains its operating temperature.

btw, i am not focussing on "rain & gravel", but only "rain" as no tyre will give you good grip on gravel, if its a gravel on road kind of situation, maybe those block pattern hard compound tyres will be better in gravel, but they are so bad when there is no gravel, that it is not desirable for normal road usage.

**broken87** · 06-15-2013, 11:11 AM

Re: Pulsar 200 NS

Originally posted by princesirohi View Post

bro, its good that you tested the top speed of your bike, however top speed depends a lot on rider weight, road incline/decline, wind speed and direction... etc so don't worry.

btw, if you read your owner's manual or go to bajaj website, the claimed top speed of P200NS is only 136 KMPH.

what is your weight..??

I weigh only 63kgs, and yea their claimed speed is only 136kmph as i mentioned above

**Aditya N Bharadwaj** · 06-15-2013, 11:12 AM

Re: Pulsar 200 NS

Originally posted by ankur2smart View Post

aaahhhhh tyre discussions are back

. I remember starting a debate on EUROGRIPS after my nasty comments on them.

Well the math seems to be spot on. I just have few doubts:
Few years back when I was totally new to bikes, I was told by all exp riders...not to play much with the prescribed profile of tyres for obvious reasons. Now in this case, calculations are saying effects should not be much but there has to be some right?. So what can be those? Else, BAJAJ would have thought about keeping duke's spec of rear tyre.

Keeping common sense aside, 150/60 is just too mouth watering

I am still close to 7k on ODO so no chance of getting one for me now

Dude please go fast & get it

fast fast

The tyres can probably hold for another month or so. So no updates on that till then.
My idea: Revz-c for the rear and I too am confused about the front. Remember seeing somewhere that FZ's front will do.
Cornering with NS is a bit easier than Duke's thanks to the smaller rear tyre. A grippy tyre of the same size will make it even better. That's the reason Bajaj gave a 130 to NS. But I'm going for the 150 coz I like to see a big tyre at the rear which doesn't hamper the handling too much, and cornering isn't too big a priority for me. Straightline stability (I believe) would be better with the revz-c. Thinking on those lines, the handling will go completely off course if I used the CBR250's flat-profile rear tyre.

Originally posted by broken87 View Post

Though my signature says "im redlining NS all the time".. It's not accurate lol cos I haven't been getting many opportunities to ride hard and fast in these crowded Noida/Delhi roads. Infact the highest speed I can usually take my NS to is just around 100 or so. I haven't done a top speed run on an expressway in a long time and the last time I hit it, it was 131 kmph and I simply refused to go above that cos it was getting scary (I was a new rider back then).
But I did it today, a proper top speed run on Yamuna Expressway @4300 kms on ODO. While most NS'ians have claimed to hit 150+ kmph (with 9% speedo error ? so real is 136kmph), I was only able to achieve 141 kmph and it was scarily fast yeah. mostly because that traffic was alot even on this expressway along with those slow moving 3 wheelers zzZ. Just curious if my real speed was just 127 kmph considering 9% speedo error. or really around 136 kmph, the actual claimed top speed. not that I care much about top speed, it's just curiousity. I was totally exhilarated after my run though. and incidentally my bike moving@ 140kmph easily overtook a dragging P220F (with respect!) which seemed to be going at it's top speed. Weird stuff, btw the post isn't meaning to offend any P220F owners. Just sharing my experience!
Bike was super smooth all the way, still is. Had almost zero vibrations going at 140kmph in 6th, except minor good feel vibs on handle bars.
Poor stability at 100-120kmph ! I just can't believe the wind blast and how unstable the bike becomes over 120kmph, it's scary.
The bike seemed smoother and happier after this run.
Could this lower speedo indicated 140kmph be cos I didn't shift all my gears at the highest available RPM, meaning 10500-10800 RPM ? I just shifted randomly around 8k-10k. I don't like to redline my NS in 1st and 2nd gear :/
After this I really feel like test riding a P220F and seeing how it feels like at 120kmph+

Typical NS behavior right there!
Bike seemed smoother and happier after the run? You ripped your bike so the carb settings got a bit rich TEMPORARILY. A rich setting is associated with smoothness. Start and ride your bike a few hours later and guess what? Back to square one! :P
Note: My signature isn't right as well :P

**Rakesh Rok** · 06-15-2013, 12:03 PM

Re: Pulsar 200 NS

Originally posted by Aditya N Bharadwaj View Post

The tyres can probably hold for another month or so. So no updates on that till then.
My idea: Revz-c for the rear and I too am confused about the front. Remember seeing somewhere that FZ's front will do.
Cornering with NS is a bit easier than Duke's thanks to the smaller rear tyre. A grippy tyre of the same size will make it even better. That's the reason Bajaj gave a 130 to NS. But I'm going for the 150 coz I like to see a big tyre at the rear which doesn't hamper the handling too much, and cornering isn't too big a priority for me. Straightline stability (I believe) would be better with the revz-c. Thinking on those lines, the handling will go completely off course if I used the CBR250's flat-profile rear tyre.

Bro why don't you try Michellin Pilot sport for the Front which you will get in 100ft road or in Madhus Tyres and how about Pirelli Demon Sport for the rear I think for this you need to search. . ? I know a guy who has this combination for his Pulsar 220 and he says, it's the best. . . Or else if you don't want these, just go with MRF or continental tires. . .

Cheers!!!

**princesirohi** · 06-15-2013, 12:10 PM

Re: Pulsar 200 NS

Originally posted by Bornon17th View Post

The shop is "Poona Scooters". Ph no. (020) 27420249, 27422131.

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thanks bro, just spoke to him, same story there, he has 130/80-17 in PSD. although he has MT75 front in 100/80-17.

**Aditya N Bharadwaj** · 06-15-2013, 01:52 PM

Re: Pulsar 200 NS

Originally posted by Rakesh Rok View Post

Bro why don't you try Michellin Pilot sport for the Front which you will get in 100ft road or in Madhus Tyres and how about Pirelli Demon Sport for the rear I think for this you need to search. . ? I know a guy who has this combination for his Pulsar 220 and he says, it's the best. . . Or else if you don't want these, just go with MRF or continental tires. . .

Cheers!!!

Pirellis are hard to find in Mysore I've heard. Besides, they cost a lot. So MRF is the one on my mind. Will check Michelin tyres as well.

**Rakesh Rok** · 06-15-2013, 02:30 PM

Re: Pulsar 200 NS

Originally posted by Aditya N Bharadwaj View Post

Pirellis are hard to find in Mysore I've heard. Besides, they cost a lot. So MRF is the one on my mind. Will check Michelin tyres as well.

ya that's for sure, it'll be around 3.5 k something for the Pirellis but if you really want that then I can help you get one or else best go for MRF but for front put Micellin pilot sport, the best I can say and call me on when you'll be going, I'll come along. . .

Cheers!!!

**Sird** · 06-15-2013, 02:35 PM

Re: Pulsar 200 NS

Originally posted by Rakesh Rok View Post

ya that's for sure, it'll be around 3.5 k something for the Pirellis but if you really want that then I can help you get one or else best go for MRF but for front put Micellin pilot sport, the best I can say and call me on when you'll be going, I'll come along. . .

Cheers!!!

You said "Pirellis" bro.

You mean both front and rear for 3.5k ?
If so,
Not even the rear is available at 3.5k (rate at some places only).
Rear is for 3.6-3.8k !

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**Rakesh Rok** · 06-15-2013, 03:05 PM

Re: Pulsar 200 NS

Originally posted by Sird View Post

You said "Pirellis" bro.

You mean both front and rear for 3.5k ?
If so,
Not even the rear is available at 3.5k (rate at some places only).
Rear is for 3.6-3.8k !

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Come on bro, stop kidding. . . See the comments above, I recommended Michellin for front and Pirelli for rear, so obviously I am speaking only about the rear tire and yes it costs around something as you said and as I did not know the exact rate of it, just said it should be "3.5 k something", ok bro. . .

Cheers!!!

**smrutisourav** · 06-15-2013, 04:17 PM

Re: Pulsar 200 NS

Originally posted by mutatedknutz View Post

no i dont think so, cause i guess we'll ne able to mount only 2 holes, no idea.
some other member suggested to get a 4 hole one and drill the holes.
15/43 is the dukes setup which has same gearing ratios like ns.
so wanted to go for it.

duke's set up, 14/43 or 14/42
ns, set up , 15/39

**princesirohi** · 06-15-2013, 05:35 PM

Re: Pulsar 200 NS

pirelli in pune is under 3000 rupees.

**krish2778** · 06-15-2013, 06:38 PM

Re: Pulsar 200 NS

Originally posted by princesirohi View Post

bro, its good that you tested the top speed of your bike, however top speed depends a lot on rider weight, road incline/decline, wind speed and direction... etc so don't worry.

btw, if you read your owner's manual or go to bajaj website, the claimed top speed of P200NS is only 136 KMPH.

what is your weight..??

are they available in india..?? what is the size..??

i do not agree with you mate, to get a good grip, you need soft compound tyres with good silica content in rubber and a tread pattern that is better in channelizing water out of contact patch, another thing is how quickly the tyre heats up and attains its operating temperature.

btw, i am not focussing on "rain & gravel", but only "rain" as no tyre will give you good grip on gravel, if its a gravel on road kind of situation, maybe those block pattern hard compound tyres will be better in gravel, but they are so bad when there is no gravel, that it is not desirable for normal road usage.

It's not all about what's in paper , many a people have had difficulties with the pirelli's in wet conditions and going by theory, for soft compound to get its sticky nature must reach it's ideal temperature, which with rain and slush is very less chance. Where there is rain , loose mud or gravel will be there, the road conditions here are very much of that sorts, standing aside the few NH which we have with world class quality tarmac.
Now if you can handle the occasional fishtails and scary moments , then sure, go ahead with it, if not i have just suggested a alternative solution.

Now the decision is yours. And with block type tires i din't mean the off road tires, those are the ones which are good for pure slush and terrible on tarmac, but the likes of ceat vertigo which is just good on wet and similarly good on the tarmac in dry conditions. That too is from the words of people who have used it and keep using it courtesy it's near flawless nature.

So, please do have a talk with a few pirelli and ceat / dunlop users on how good it has faired for them and take decision, which makes more sense.

Cheers
Ride Safe
Krishna

**Sird** · 06-15-2013, 07:41 PM

Re: Pulsar 200 NS

Pirelli + Wet Indian Roads + Normal bike riding like dry day = bad crash

Pirelli + wet + careful riding + those bumps / sudden braking / oily surface on road = suddenly bad crash

Pirelli is not good for sand and wet both.
It's goo if its a proper Tarmac road like Delhi or now new roads in Navi Mumbai (nerul).
[MENTION=35815]krish2778[/MENTION] is right

The big grip tyres are also available for our tyres.
And in ceat as said by Krish above.

I've seen those tyres from years.
They look quite ugly but yes try do remove water from tyres perfectly decreasing the chance of slip.

These Pirelli, IRC and other tyres.
They are much of plain, stylish. They hold hold between tyres and road.
So all you need is a quick brake or sudden handle movement to make yourself skid !

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