Re: Hero Karizma ZMR (2014 version)


Low top end means decrease in compression.may be due to worn out bore.

Re: Hero Karizma ZMR (2014 version)

if that is already done, then the compression has decreased.. as you mentioned in the other thread "smoke on redline" seems like it could be the bore issue.. as [MENTION=28527]sibun[/MENTION] and [MENTION=32286]psr[/MENTION] sir have already mentioned (expert's advice)

Re: Hero Karizma ZMR (2014 version)

And as i had dreaded
I will keep it going for 2 more years and then look into it. Had done a long ride recently with no complaints. Butter smooth. Hope nothing serious happens within these two more years.

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Re: Hero Karizma ZMR (2014 version)

As i assumed. The guy is from Central America.. here are few screenshots of his profile





Any idea if the bikes being sold there have more power than the ones sold in India?? I guess asking him for the power figures might help

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Re: Hero Karizma ZMR (2014 version)

Guys what's the top end of karizma 2014 version ..?
Does the fully faired and half faired have any difference. .?
My friend needs to know as his stops at 127-129 kmph only.

Re: Hero Karizma ZMR (2014 version)

On a slight downward gradient with favourable winds and proper tire pressure, clean air filter and new spark plugs, about 131-134 clicks in about 3-4 KMS.


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Re: Hero Karizma ZMR (2014 version)

Divya sir ,what will be speed if road is flat ,winds are normal or in some resistance to your direction ,spark plugs 6-7k kms old ,filter cleaned 1-3 months ago..? I mean a bike that has not been serviced since 2 months ,
Because my friend who's fit ,just 70kgs maintains his bike well (it's new ) and crouchs fully ,still he isn't able to go beyond 127-129 kmph and after 115 kmph his bike typically engine vibrates and thus makes resonance with bike body in a hell breaks loose type of situation.
Is that normal. .?
And for my query ,I thought karizma will touch 140 kmph easily, with added faring and all .? If it cannot than how's it's performance w.r.t. old zmr ..? Because I've done 135-136 fully crouched on old zmr back in 2010.
Thanks for bearing .

Re: Hero Karizma ZMR (2014 version)

Hi Divya Sharan,

I gave my bike yesterday to find out what went wrong with my ZMR.
Seems that new gen ZMR has motor and ECU tuning issue. They said mein is third to have the problem.

I hope they have not delivered an faulty one. However I tried to test top end on my ZMR after I done 1k kms on odo.
It did went to 122 at 7krpm and I could have pushed it little to 130+ but after 110kmph the bike start Screaming out like 2 stroke bike and bike whobles hell lot so I lost my confidence and close the throtle. I also doubt that the new gen ZMR weight distribution is not done well to break the side wind blow. Also I wish they would have consider to install 90/90 front tire instead of 80/100 which add more stability and cop up with 120/80 section effectively.

Also some sporcketting is popping up in my mind. I would try that after completing 10kms on odo.
I would try installing p200ns rim and sporcket to check how bike behave.

Re: Hero Karizma ZMR (2014 version)

As per mechanic who went for training the Recent ZMA-R and ZMR with improved lift cam and piston, the Bike is capable of touching 145 Kmph...The ZMA-R will struggle a bit since they had made it a bit lean for higher FE....Personally if it does 110 Kmph, it is more than adequate, given it's reliability...any one requiring higher Speed can think of moving up to higher CC bike to suit their need.

Re: Hero Karizma ZMR (2014 version)

Just sent a PM....let's see whether he replies or not

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Re: Hero Karizma ZMR (2014 version)

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But sir ,if thats the case ,don't you think hero is goofing us ..? I mean extreme does 10-115 kmph and it does it pretty well. With foot firmly on road and engine not behaving like typical bajaj(of ug3 ) .
So no offense ,but going by your logic ,we should get extreme instead of karizma.
Personally I haven't ridden the new one ,but I have ridden the first gen + zmr versions ,and they are imprinted in my memory like a sweet candy .if the case is as dirty as owners ,my best friend and you are telling ,I won't ride the new one because that wills surely spoil the great image of karizmas to me.
Thanks for interaction.

Re: Hero Karizma ZMR (2014 version)

I drove a ZMA R test drove and was able to touch 130 and Did 135 on my freind's zmr and could have done a bit more. regarding vibrations, the ZMR/ZMA long stroke engine this type of engine's are Engine makes good Torque at lower revs, mid rev's. these bikes are best for cruising at 80-100.

though EBR has fiddle with engine for more power, the more you rev this engine the more the vibe and harshness. Bullet is also a long stroke engine.

Talking of xtreme, the xtrme has a bore stroke ratio of 57.3mm x 57.8 mm. this is a square engine. this type of engines have the character of long and short stroke engines( Apache RTR 160 (62mm x 52.9mm).

the xtreme is rev happy machine with a good low end torque. the xtreme revs madly from 5 to 9rpm.

the CBZ is basically meant to be a high revvin engine with good low end for city commutes, ZMA/ZMR is a mile muncher.

a ride of 2 hour at a speed of 100 is taxing on the CBZ, it's a piece of cake on the karizma.

my freind's zmr has done about 6000kms, i find the vibes and harsheness within acceptable limits at 110, yes it's a bit loud above 120. but this is what you except from a single cylinder long storke curiser.

Even at full speeds, I find the bike's NVH levels are better than competitors. even in the video where a american guy touching 140, the NVH are accepetable.

Re: Hero Karizma ZMR (2014 version)

First off, the engine is relaxed compared to other bikes of similar segments. Which makes it reliable too. The power kicks in at 8-9k rpm on others and our bikes tend to redline at 8k itself. If someone buys a Karizma, knowing this nature of the engine is a must. You can't go sll day checking its top end or riding at 130kmph right. The bike feels powerful and sexy in the lower range, so its better to utilise that! Now you can't expect the engine to be both quick on top end as well as relaxed and reliable right? Its like you want the higher cc locomotive engine to beat the lower cc f1 car in a drag. Doesn't happen.
So it's better to understand the characteristics of the bike and change yourself and your riding style in accordance to it, rather than wanting the bike to change, which will obviously dissapoint you and harm the bike.

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Re: Hero Karizma ZMR (2014 version)

Different things appeal to different people....for me it is the relaxed reliable ability to cruise all day at110 Kmph is enough....if any one feels that any company is ripping them off, it is upto the individual to seek legal action or move on to the one which doesn't...again a personal choice. Purchase of any material is solely at the discretion of the Buyer , which is why the words "Caveat Emptor ".

Re: Hero Karizma ZMR (2014 version)

Don't know whether if its already been shared.

ZMR 2014 review from autocar. I felt it is a very balanced review. Says about ZMR's negatives but at the same time appreciates its +s as well.



Cheers