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Re: Bajaj Pulsar RS 200 Owners Review and Experience
Its a Fuel Injected bike.there is nothing called cold start.its all electronically managed.Originally posted by Sharma Ji View PostBrother......why I'll face the cold start issue with motul?
Even if you start the bike after 1 month it will start at 1 shot.That's the beauty of fi
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Originally posted by xplod566 View PostIts a Fuel Injected bike.there is nothing called cold start.its all electronically managed.
Even if you start the bike after 1 month it will start at 1 shot.That's the beauty of fi
While a FI equipped bike won't show much hesitation when starting a cold engine, it doesn't mean that the term is discredited on an FI system. When ever the engine is started while it is cold (i.e not running for a decent amount of time) its called a cold start, regardless of whether it's FI or carb. But FI fares better and doesn't generally find issues with cold starts. A single crank is enough in most cases.
But a cold start for a guy in Jammu is not the same as cold start for people down below. When trying out different oils, people living in colder places must be aware not to fiddle with the first value in an oil's rating too much.Must ride on!
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Can you tell me which is this bajaj semi synthetic oil? I have read that the DTSi oil used for RS200 is mineral based.Is the DTSi oil mineral or semi synthetic?When i poured motu l3100t SS oil it was almost colorless with a tinge of brown, while the DTSi oil being poured into a Pulsar 180 was darkish brown.What makes motul oil cause cold start issue that similar spec and grade castrol and bajaj oil doesn't? If your using semi synthetic castrol/(bajaj??) of 20w50 grade then what makes motul semi synthetic of 20W50 grade more susceptible to colder temperatures?Im not an expert in engine oils so sorry if my question sounds stupid.If cold starting is a big issues than lower viscous oil like 15W50 can be used?Originally posted by bhargavkundem View PostHi, Considering you are from Jammu, I advise you not to use Motul. This is because, cold starts will be a big problem in the mornings with Motul even though engine will be smoother with Motul... I know riders, who have been using Bajaj semi-synthetic oil since for more than 30,000kms and with perfectly healthy machine... So it comes down to maintenance.Try both Castrol and Bajaj.. Use them each for 3k-4k kms and decide for yourself which one felt better and use it for rest of the life...
Originally posted by Sharma Ji View PostBrother......why I'll face the cold start issue with motul?Last edited by Rambo1o1; 02-24-2016, 11:09 AM.
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Yea that's what I told.that's the reason why u hear a faint noise when u start the ignition because it scans and has a bunch of sensors.also the colder the temperature the higher the idle speed will be until the engine gets warmed.Originally posted by ananthu View PostWhile a FI equipped bike won't show much hesitation when starting a cold engine, it doesn't mean that the term is discredited on an FI system. When ever the engine is started while it is cold (i.e not running for a decent amount of time) its called a cold start, regardless of whether it's FI or carb. But FI fares better and doesn't generally find issues with cold starts. A single crank is enough in most cases.
But a cold start for a guy in Jammu is not the same as cold start for people down below. When trying out different oils, people living in colder places must be aware not to fiddle with the first value in an oil's rating too much.
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I agree with you on that. But f he is from a cold place ( and from what I know Jammu is pretty cold) and changes to an oil of a different grade, there is a possibility that the oil loses its lubricating properties at those lower temps. In such a case, FI or Carb doesn't matter, the engine be running into trouble and eventually cold starts will be difficult. I made that clarification only because some bikes have cold start issues even with FI (cold condition in western nations is what I am talking about). I wasn't in any way trying to discredit you, just wanted to make it really clear than most of us can't be certain how particular oil/bike combos function at colder temps of places like Jammu. Sorry.Originally posted by xplod566 View PostYea that's what I told.that's the reason why u hear a faint noise when u start the ignition because it scans and has a bunch of sensors.also the colder the temperature the higher the idle speed will be until the engine gets warmed.
But with that being said, the RS 200 uses 20W50 which is available on Motul as well. So he should be fine.Must ride on!
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Hi Everyone,
Probably Yu might have came across 1000s of the same message which i am about to write.
But am excited as everyone and even more now.
Yes. Am waiting for March 10, 2016 to hold my hands with Pulsar RS200.
This thread is simply awesome and thanks everyone for all the inputs and feedback.
Special thanks for all pictures posted so far.
I have been advised by many not to go with Pulsar but i said simply "I love it and am buying it".
Just wanted to say thanks everyone and for that I have to SIGN UP :-P and i did that now.
THANKS a LOTTTTTTTTTTTT !!!Bikers Count Days as LIVED Only When Spent With Bikes !!
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Correct, Reason behind high idle is , At first start , ECU provides lil rich mix as its most volatile and to bring engine to working temps faster.Originally posted by xplod566 View PostYea that's what I told.that's the reason why u hear a faint noise when u start the ignition because it scans and has a bunch of sensors.also the colder the temperature the higher the idle speed will be until the engine gets warmed.
Engine oil grades are decided on following reasons :Originally posted by ananthu View PostI agree with you on that. But f he is from a cold place ( and from what I know Jammu is pretty cold) and changes to an oil of a different grade, there is a possibility that the oil loses its lubricating properties at those lower temps. In such a case, FI or Carb doesn't matter, the engine be running into trouble and eventually cold starts will be difficult. I made that clarification only because some bikes have cold start issues even with FI (cold condition in western nations is what I am talking about). I wasn't in any way trying to discredit you, just wanted to make it really clear than most of us can't be certain how particular oil/bike combos function at colder temps of places like Jammu. Sorry.
But with that being said, the RS 200 uses 20W50 which is available on Motul as well. So he should be fine.
1. Orifice diameters of oil galleys.
2. Oil pump optimum working viscosity.
3. Parasitic drag and efficiency loss due to change of grade.
Unless we perform these loads of test in lab conditions , we cannot state what oil should be used for bike.
But as a designer we take into factor that engine wont get correct grade always , hence keep a margin or say more tolerance.
To say in other words, John doe can cycle to college in 5 mins, but does it mean he wont be able to reach college if there was more traffic? No , he will reach but will take more time.
Likewise , optimum grade is decided taking in consideration various parameters that OEM works upon to achieve maximum efficiency and cooling. So one can change brands , synthetics but dont play with grades until you know the effect of oil on engine behaviour ( lab tests to validate them ).
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Totally agree with you on this one. I posted initially to clear up that EFI could and some will struggle with cold starts. Plus, what works for most people in India may not be a good idea in Jammu owing to the lower temps. Didn't want to go too deep into technicalities because I don't really trust myself to advice people. Not that I have nearly enough technical knowhow either. 😀Originally posted by RohIIT View PostCorrect, Reason behind high idle is , At first start , ECU provides lil rich mix as its most volatile and to bring engine to working temps faster.
Engine oil grades are decided on following reasons :
1. Orifice diameters of oil galleys.
2. Oil pump optimum working viscosity.
3. Parasitic drag and efficiency loss due to change of grade.
Unless we perform these loads of test in lab conditions , we cannot state what oil should be used for bike.
But as a designer we take into factor that engine wont get correct grade always , hence keep a margin or say more tolerance.
To say in other words, John doe can cycle to college in 5 mins, but does it mean he wont be able to reach college if there was more traffic? No , he will reach but will take more time.
Likewise , optimum grade is decided taking in consideration various parameters that OEM works upon to achieve maximum efficiency and cooling. So one can change brands , synthetics but dont play with grades until you know the effect of oil on engine behaviour ( lab tests to validate them ).
But what brought me into the discussion was how Motul 7100 could cause cold start issues while other oils of the same grade may not. But we have gone OT big time I guess. 😅 peace.Must ride on!
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I have prepared the below Checklist for RS200 and thought of sharing it across.
1. Check the tires green mark.
2. Horn
3. Light (Low, High Beam, Pass switch)
4. Engine ignition on/off
5. Keys (Duplicate)
6. Scratches
7. Speed o meter (Upto 100 KM Odometer is acceptable)
8. Time
9. Suspension (Check for squeak sounds – they should not occur)
10. Air pressure (25/30 or 32PSI)
11. Disk pressure (Hard to check, but check during basic trial run)
12. Engine oil
13. Visible Wires
14. Brake pressure (Same as disk pressure)
15. Side lock only on left side check
16. Petrol tank lock n release
17. Turn signal indicator
18. Speed o meter components
19. External accessories all
20. Engine chassis number decode
21. ABS will be turned on once ignition turns on and it will turn off after the bike travels > 10km/hr
22. Pilot light check, self-start, engine kill switch.
23. Remove pillion seat
24. Check medical kits (Right side), tool kits (left side).
25. Battery under rider seat.
26. No fuel leakage as far as we can verify.
27. Throttle cable functionality
28. Brake fluid level
29. Chain lubrication. (Initially it will be looking like a clean, pure chain)
30. Coolant level check
31. Steering movement without any hiccups (Check by leaving both hands and watch for any wobbles while riding)
32. Mirror adjustments
33. Gear shifts (Initially gear shifts won’t be butter smooth)
34. Fork & Tyre Alignment
Instructions from Manual:
Speed till 1000km: 10/18/24/33/40/48
Till 2000km: 16/24/30/38/46/54
Shifting lower gears: 54/45/35/25/15 (to 5th/4/3/2/1)
Hope it will be useful and folks pls update if i miss anything
Thanks again for everyone who shed their inputs to me
Last edited by Saravanan_GS; 02-25-2016, 11:57 AM. Reason: Added 34th checklist as advised by other RSiansBikers Count Days as LIVED Only When Spent With Bikes !!
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Excellent listOriginally posted by Saravanan_GS View Postth/4/3/2/1)
Hope it will be useful and folks pls update if i miss anything
Thanks again for everyone who shed their inputs to me
Also can you add these
Fork Alignment
Tyre alignment
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Did you guys know the export RS 200 gets a dual channel ABS while the Indian Model only gets a single channel ABS on front?
This surprised me when I was reading about the differences between the Indian and export model of RS 200, there seems to be more refinement in the export models then the Indian models."Biking: the Under-Rated and Drug-Free Antidepressant"
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