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**xplod566** · 11-01-2015, 02:27 PM

Re: Pulsar AS 200 Owners Review and Experiences

Originally posted by Sal View Post

Castrol oil? Why do you want to ruin your bike so early? Because, I don't think Castrol has a 20w50 oil.
See, you can top-up with any oil, just make sure the grade is 20w50 or 15w50.

Go to service and ask them to top up

**Gowty** · 11-02-2015, 12:32 AM

Re: Pulsar AS 200 Owners Review and Experiences

Originally posted by Tejas Jha View Post

hey guys.. wanted to do an oil change. left with only 800ml of our Bajaj-HP oil and want about 400ml more to put the recommended quantity..

my question

- Can I buy 500ml of castrol mineral oil and mix it with our bajaj oil ?? dont want to buy more of bajaj oil..

- and when can i change to full synthetic oil (motul 7100) ??

AFAIK Mixing two different oils shouldn't be done. Get your bike to the Service centre and top up the oil. Change to Full synthetic alteast after 5000Kms on the ODO. Mineral oil has more friction so they'll be better during the run-in or breaking period.

I changed to Motul 7100 20W50 after second service (5500 on the ODO).

**xplod566** · 11-02-2015, 12:39 AM

Re: Pulsar AS 200 Owners Review and Experiences

Originally posted by Gowty View Post

AFAIK Mixing two different oils shouldn't be done. Get your bike to the Service centre and top up the oil. Change to Full synthetic alteast after 5000Kms on the ODO. Mineral oil has more friction so they'll be better during the run-in or breaking period.

I changed to Motul 7100 20W50 after second service (5500 on the ODO).

How has been your experience with 7100.and any drop on mileage.also how are hear shifts and smoothness.any issues faced ?

**Gowty** · 11-02-2015, 12:49 AM

Re: Pulsar AS 200 Owners Review and Experiences

Originally posted by Tejas Jha View Post

OK... so completed 2050 kms on my bike..! Is the "run in" completed or should I give it a lil more time??? N whats the safe RPM limit am I looking at for now?? And can I now take her out on high ways?? bcoz in the "run in" phase I avoided long high ways n kept the rpms moving..

Run in is over technically... Take your RPM to higher bands now

It's nearly impossible to reach above 6K RPM in city as the bike will be @85KMph in 6th gear. You can ride all the way upto the 9.5K RPM and beyond when the RPM Limit light starts blinking

In my case I reached 90Kmph in the second day itself

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Originally posted by xplod566 View Post

How has been your experience with 7100.and any drop on mileage.also how are hear shifts and smoothness.any issues faced ?

The bike is More relaxed and Rev - Free. Probably the small vibrations that occur b/w 5k - 6k RPM has reduced considerably. It's worth the Money.

No change in Mileage though. Still the same b/w 36 - 40 KMPL in the city

**xplod566** · 11-02-2015, 01:03 AM

Re: Pulsar AS 200 Owners Review and Experiences

Originally posted by Gowty View Post

Run in is over technically... Take your RPM to higher bands now

It's nearly impossible to reach above 6K RPM in city as the bike will be @85KMph in 6th gear. You can ride all the way upto the 9.5K RPM and beyond when the RPM Limit light starts blinking

In my case I reached 90Kmph in the second day itself

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The bike is More relaxed and Rev - Free. Probably the small vibrations that occur b/w 5k - 6k RPM has reduced considerably. It's worth the Money.

No change in Mileage though. Still the same b/w 36 - 40 KMPL in the city

Okay sounds good and how much is the change interval. I was thinking of 5100 but now thinking of 7100
BTW is dtsi oil mineral or semi synthetic? I converted 7000 kms on dtsi

**jbm_guy** · 11-02-2015, 12:54 PM

Re: Pulsar AS 200 Owners Review and Experiences

Originally posted by xplod566 View Post

Okay sounds good and how much is the change interval. I was thinking of 5100 but now thinking of 7100
BTW is dtsi oil mineral or semi synthetic? I converted 7000 kms on dtsi

If you wish for a smoother shifts with softer ride, 5100 suits well. 7100 gives a crunchy acceleration and can let the engine remain harsh. This is as per most of the NS-Motul owners experience. I'm using 5100, don't feel lot of improvement over Bajaj, but okay, good to have a good brand engine oil. Also 7100 is costlier and you need to buy two bottles. ~1.15 liter

But as I said, after Motul change, you may or may not get improvement. In fact I felt a bit harshness at first compared to Bajaj oil. Later it felt all the same. I'm planning to keep a drain interval of 3000 kms. Now on hard ripping (mostly shifting above 7-8K rpm and hitting rev max at many times in city, the mileage comes close to 31-32 only(10 liters = 315 km). After changing to Motul, I hope the mileage has dropped a bit. On casual riding, I get 35-36. But with Bajaj oil back there I was getting ~39-42. But even if my driving habits have changed a bit, still 36 is way too less compared with 40.

**xplod566** · 11-02-2015, 06:42 PM

Re: Pulsar AS 200 Owners Review and Experiences

Originally posted by jbm_guy View Post

If you wish for a smoother shifts with softer ride, 5100 suits well. 7100 gives a crunchy acceleration and can let the engine remain harsh. This is as per most of the NS-Motul owners experience. I'm using 5100, don't feel lot of improvement over Bajaj, but okay, good to have a good brand engine oil. Also 7100 is costlier and you need to buy two bottles. ~1.15 liter

But as I said, after Motul change, you may or may not get improvement. In fact I felt a bit harshness at first compared to Bajaj oil. Later it felt all the same. I'm planning to keep a drain interval of 3000 kms. Now on hard ripping (mostly shifting above 7-8K rpm and hitting rev max at many times in city, the mileage comes close to 31-32 only(10 liters = 315 km). After changing to Motul, I hope the mileage has dropped a bit. On casual riding, I get 35-36. But with Bajaj oil back there I was getting ~39-42. But even if my driving habits have changed a bit, still 36 is way too less compared with 40.

I think 36-38 is a decent mileage for the bike.I am getting something around 38 in city.okay will go for 5100 then.may be another 1 week.I have no complaints with the Bajaj oil but as you said its good to have a good brand oil.motul is a world class oil and good to have it

**jbm_guy** · 11-02-2015, 06:56 PM

Re: Pulsar AS 200 Owners Review and Experiences

Originally posted by xplod566 View Post

I think 36-38 is a decent mileage for the bike.I am getting something around 38 in city.okay will go for 5100 then.may be another 1 week.I have no complaints with the Bajaj oil but as you said its good to have a good brand oil.motul is a world class oil and good to have it

Try to change oil filter too when you do. My svc guy refused as the oil filter bolts/screw sets will soon give up on frequent removing which will result in a major overhaul. But oil filter must be changed esp when you change to some new brand. Also try to clean the engine. SVC guys do that. It'll be good to ensure that you remove every part of Bajaj oil from your engine.

**xplod566** · 11-02-2015, 06:57 PM

Re: Pulsar AS 200 Owners Review and Experiences

Okay.I will remove the oil filter.but how do you clean the engine ?

**Demonizah** · 11-02-2015, 07:39 PM

Re: Pulsar AS 200 Owners Review and Experiences

Hi guys.

New here. Just got my 200AS 10 days ago and running in currently.
I'm late to the biking world so not a very experienced rider.
Hoping to go through this entire thread to gain wisdom, and perhaps contribute some.

So far, trying to be careful, but a few slip ups caused me to spike the revs to 6-8k rpm twice, just for a second or so. Hope it won't hurt the bike too badly.
Otherwise, trying to keep it under 4k rpm.

**xplod566** · 11-02-2015, 07:41 PM

Re: Pulsar AS 200 Owners Review and Experiences

I was just wondering something.
So I was just planning to get both my lights switched on when selecting the higher beam button and not the pass button.
Definitely I won't use it in cities but with both the lights on on highways it would be am ultimate tourer at nights.
My question is whether it might fry or finish the battery soon or battery life would be bad.any problems it might cause in wiring ?

**Sal** · 11-02-2015, 08:46 PM

Re: Pulsar AS 200 Owners Review and Experiences

Originally posted by xplod566 View Post

I was just wondering something.
So I was just planning to get both my lights switched on when selecting the higher beam button and not the pass button.
Definitely I won't use it in cities but with both the lights on on highways it would be am ultimate tourer at nights.
My question is whether it might fry or finish the battery soon or battery life would be bad.any problems it might cause in wiring ?

Stock H7 bulbs are of 55watts, 55x2=110watts - so yes, the battery will drain in no time.
You can however use HIDs (35watts each). There was a DIY on xbhp by a member named rahuldevnath, he had done this mod on P220 - to get dual headlights in P220.

**xplod566** · 11-02-2015, 09:44 PM

Re: Pulsar AS 200 Owners Review and Experiences

Originally posted by Sal View Post

Stock H7 bulbs are of 55watts, 55x2=110watts - so yes, the battery will drain in no time.
You can however use HIDs (35watts each). There was a DIY on xbhp by a member named rahuldevnath, he had done this mod on P220 - to get dual headlights in P220.

Ohk.i saw that some time ago. It was a good mod. But I think I will start stock for now.

**jbm_guy** · 11-03-2015, 01:19 PM

Re: Pulsar AS 200 Owners Review and Experiences

Originally posted by xplod566 View Post

I was just wondering something.
So I was just planning to get both my lights switched on when selecting the higher beam button and not the pass button.
Definitely I won't use it in cities but with both the lights on on highways it would be am ultimate tourer at nights.
My question is whether it might fry or finish the battery soon or battery life would be bad.any problems it might cause in wiring ?

Well said [MENTION=66628]Sal[/MENTION], you spoke my mind. Yes you can do it. Actually low beam uses 55w and high beam takes 60W. So to be precise, letting both will lead to a peak sum of 115WAh and given your battery rating of ~90WAh, you might drain your battery almost zero if you forgetfully let the lights glow for few just minutes. Now is that bad?, yes it really is. There are other peripherals that need power, sensors, indicators, even that Bajaj logo

.

The console and backlight takes so much power, that's why in earlier version of NS (2012), the console lights won't even turn on unless you turn the engine on. You got me?. In NS forums, long back you can read some people saying that letting alone the console backlight and display for ~20 minutes (with mods, because default setup won't let you do), ate up the entire battery from 100%-0% in that time

, so that's why Bajaj disabled that. However that is bad, should I have to start the engine to even check time or odo reading?. This is one reason which we have to give it a think. However later versions, they have changed this. Today, you can light the console backlight with engine turned off (But headlamps still wont glow). But if you fix a HID or LED (Like I did), you can let the headlamps glow with engine turned off. This is safe too, as HIDs and LEDs take very less power compared to Halogen.

Even if you don't, the battery takes more riding hours to get fully charged and in your case, you might never reach a full charge at all, that's sad and bad right?. As [MENTION=66628]Sal[/MENTION] said, go for HIDs if you prefer more lumens per watt. They are the best as per today tech. LED projectors are next to them, but very battery friendly, but gets red hot very soon. Every time when I switch off the engine with head lights on, I hear the fan running at high speed inside headlamp

, Woozzzzzz......!!!

Actually I went to fit a HID and came back with an LED without knowing the differences when buying

. For now, you can safely play with pass switch to light both of them

**xplod566** · 11-03-2015, 02:17 PM

Re: Pulsar AS 200 Owners Review and Experiences

Originally posted by jbm_guy View Post

Well said [MENTION=66628]Sal[/MENTION], you spoke my mind. Yes you can do it. Actually low beam uses 55w and high beam takes 60W. So to be precise, letting both will lead to a peak sum of 115WAh and given your battery rating of ~90WAh, you might drain your battery almost zero if you forgetfully let the lights glow for few just minutes. Now is that bad?, yes it really is. There are other peripherals that need power, sensors, indicators, even that Bajaj logo [emoji3].

The console and backlight takes so much power, that's why in earlier version of NS (2012), the console lights won't even turn on unless you turn the engine on. You got me?. In NS forums, long back you can read some people saying that letting alone the console backlight and display for ~20 minutes (with mods, because default setup won't let you do), ate up the entire battery from 100%-0% in that time

, so that's why Bajaj disabled that. However that is bad, should I have to start the engine to even check time or odo reading?. This is one reason which we have to give it a think. However later versions, they have changed this. Today, you can light the console backlight with engine turned off (But headlamps still wont glow). But if you fix a HID or LED (Like I did), you can let the headlamps glow with engine turned off. This is safe too, as HIDs and LEDs take very less power compared to Halogen.

Even if you don't, the battery takes more riding hours to get fully charged and in your case, you might never reach a full charge at all, that's sad and bad right?. As [MENTION=66628]Sal[/MENTION] said, go for HIDs if you prefer more lumens per watt. They are the best as per today tech. LED projectors are next to them, but very battery friendly, but gets red hot very soon. Every time when I switch off the engine with head lights on, I hear the fan running at high speed inside headlamp

, Woozzzzzz......!!!

Actually I went to fit a HID and came back with an LED without knowing the differences when buying

. For now, you can safely play with pass switch to light both of them

Ok thanks for the info.but I think I will stick to stock.the projectors are ry really powerful but still just though as lighting both lights would be way cooler.

However even now if the engine is turned off the Console light won't glow on this bike....and that sucks [emoji20]

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