Suzuki Gixxer SF : Ownership thread

[Abhilash Manari]

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Congratulations, Abhilash!!

Welcome to the Club.....

Thanks brother....
Even you have crossed your 400 kms right....
and when you are planning to get your first service done,
Today when i went to the svc the mechanic guy told me to come at 750,
Whats your plan?

[Saad Momin]

Re: Suzuki Gixxer SF : Ownership thread

Thanks brother....
Even you have crossed your 400 kms right....
and when you are planning to get your first service done,
Today when i went to the svc the mechanic guy told me to come at 750,
Whats your plan?

Yup. 480kms today after reached home from work to be precise. I am planning to get the first svc done by 600kms on the odo which would be by coming weekend I think. That will be in Kiran Suzuki, Thane, Mumbai. I will try to go there on Friday as weekdays are less busy for the svc. Or go at opening time at around 9AM. Lets see. Will keep you posted.

[debanjant]

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Hello everyone, eventhough i have been following this thread since a long time, this is my first post here.....
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Congratulations brother.. Gear up and ride safe..

[dhwanan]

Re: Suzuki Gixxer SF : Ownership thread

[QUOTE=Dipan12;1224534]Heating issue - Well you should have researched on the net before buying this beauty . This is a 150 cc bike without any kind of cooling - oil/liquid/natural - so naturally with the added fairing and without any kind of above said cooling technology your bike is getting really hot , you should have bought without the fairing - this is INDIA not foreign countries where the temp will be helpful for motorcycles with fairings - My advice use 10w40 FS oil - as it will keep your internal protected and cool - and do not do any kind of fairing modification as it might hamper the stability - and secondly do not block the air in the front fairing with stupid items like - mud guard and leg guard(not possible for the fairing) and also do not keep any kind of cleaning cloth at there , I have seen many people with this - use the 10w40FS oil and ride safe - if the engine gets really hot then let it cool down - dont worry your machine is fine - this type of problem also arises in KTM too - In future buy naked or semi-fairing ! - Ride safe .

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Well, I am aware. I live in Ahmedabad where temperature touches 42 degrees easily in summers. My point is SVC fixed it but it came back. The engine gets hot so the hot air should be around leg or thighs. What about seat? I didn't see any thing which can heat the seat. May be I will replace the oil with the one you have advocated. The bike is in stock condition. I don't like modifying my bike.

I will try to deal with it with shell premium petrol. I will inform if it solves the problem. And yes, I researched on internet before getting this bike. Not only that the sales guy gave me test ride of same bike before I bought it. It was all fine before second service. The second service screwed it.

Plus any pointers for transmission? I cleaned, tightened, and lubed the chain, but the sound returns after some time. I am thinking to replace the transmission. Hope that solves my problem.

[srinath2494]

Re: Suzuki Gixxer SF : Ownership thread

Just a notice.

I am posting this because I'm trying to find people in Chennai who can actually ride during weekends for breakfast and recreation, say around 200 km radius around Chennai to start with. I own a gixxer.

My group of friends had to shift to other cities and I am in search of people who can form a group. I'm slowly recovering from a couple of ailments and I had a huge gap in between because of the same. I'll be done with my college by the end of April and so I am planning to start my riding from May or June. I wish to form a neat and professional group which has members following traffic and safety guidelines. I'd be more than happy if you guys are experienced and/ or have done tours on your bikes.

It'd be a great way to bond, learn and explore!

I'm also planning on inviting some RE, FZ, Fazer, sf and other bike riders through known contacts so that there is no scope to race or stray away from cruising - in short, bikes that can maintain comparable speeds and have similar equipment.

Interested riders please let me know through a personal message and we shall discuss it over phone soon.

See you guys! [:

[Dipan12]

Re: Suzuki Gixxer SF : Ownership thread

[QUOTE=dhwanan;1225120]

Heating issue - Well you should have researched on the net before buying this beauty . This is a 150 cc bike without any kind of cooling - oil/liquid/natural - so naturally with the added fairing and without any kind of above said cooling technology your bike is getting really hot , you should have bought without the fairing - this is INDIA not foreign countries where the temp will be helpful for motorcycles with fairings - My advice use 10w40 FS oil - as it will keep your internal protected and cool - and do not do any kind of fairing modification as it might hamper the stability - and secondly do not block the air in the front fairing with stupid items like - mud guard and leg guard(not possible for the fairing) and also do not keep any kind of cleaning cloth at there , I have seen many people with this - use the 10w40FS oil and ride safe - if the engine gets really hot then let it cool down - dont worry your machine is fine - this type of problem also arises in KTM too - In future buy naked or semi-fairing ! - Ride safe .

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Well, I am aware. I live in Ahmedabad where temperature touches 42 degrees easily in summers. My point is SVC fixed it but it came back. The engine gets hot so the hot air should be around leg or thighs. What about seat? I didn't see any thing which can heat the seat. May be I will replace the oil with the one you have advocated. The bike is in stock condition. I don't like modifying my bike.

I will try to deal with it with shell premium petrol. I will inform if it solves the problem. And yes, I researched on internet before getting this bike. Not only that the sales guy gave me test ride of same bike before I bought it. It was all fine before second service. The second service screwed it.

Plus any pointers for transmission? I cleaned, tightened, and lubed the chain, but the sound returns after some time. I am thinking to replace the transmission. Hope that solves my problem.

As you are saying before the 2nd service the bike was normal but afterwards it is creating problem - then it will have to be the engine oil - what is the recommended oil for you bike according to the manual book ? follow it strictly - I MEAN STRICTLY - in term of grades - In my case i use to follow the 10w30(Motul)grade in my karizma r 2015 but after changing it to 10w40/20w40 - lack of pickup and also the engine was quite hotter than usual - I know thicker oil are best in summer - but in my case same as your using the outside grade oil made the engine rough and noisy - so changed it back after 1000 KM of riding and till now the bullet proof engine of karizma is still going on and on without that heat - I mean during traffic it was like I am seating on a furnace - ok to the question of yours - change your oil to any reputed brand - MOTUL / SHELL / ELF / GULF / MOBIL and see the changes - secondly check for pre inspection in your bike like - spark plug gap and carbon deposits / air filter blockage / blockage of any kind inside the fairing(hardly doubt it) but check - but specifically check your oil level it should not be lower the LOW mark and have they changed the oil or the svc told that they have changed it ? have the changed the oil filter inside ? have they poured the 1lt new oil in your engine or just told you that they will pour ? - check this things - as you are saying that after visiting the svc - check for the oil colour - if its black / dark brown - they have not changed - or - if they have changed then have they used the recommended grade - check this !
In case of transmission noise - I could not get it ! really . Bike do make noise when they are fired up - you have to be specific - tik-tik noise / sewing machine noise - loose tappets symptoms - others noise - you have to tell us - and about chain noise , do not worry , o-ring/open ring chain do sound when they are rotating and thats normal , unless your chain is not properly cleaned or lube by chain lube or engine oil(I use) - check for that .
And about petrol please bhai use normal unleaded petrol - its a normal sports cum commuter cum touring bike and no need of speed petrol - unless your bike has highes compression ration which I doubt - I have seen in KTM / Kawasaki H2R - etc / Yamaha R1 / R25 / R6 / R1 - etc they need power/speed petrol - but people like us with lower compression ration bike - normal petrol is more than enough - but - pour from reputed always ON petrol pump .
Is your bike new ? I hope so as you have specified that after SECOND Service - I think your transmission is fine - if you just specify me about the noise it would be great .

Just made a discovery for the sake of helping you - your bike seat is getting hot because - heat is coming from the cylinder head and it is normal - the heat has to go somewhere so your seat is getting hot - I have read the post in suzuki GSXR600 the bikers too have the same problem - in their case they have the radiator but on the 150cc its air cooled - so you can understand that the heat is from the cylinder head which is normal - don't worry just get habituated

OR

Is your battery under the seat - if it is like the bigger suzukis then the battery is getting over heated - reason for overheating - overcharged by svc - so check the battery -

ANY 1 will be the cause - either POINT 1 / 2.

[de.das.dude]

Re: Suzuki Gixxer SF : Ownership thread

[QUOTE=dhwanan;1225120]

Heating issue - Well you should have researched on the net before buying this beauty . This is a 150 cc bike without any kind of cooling - oil/liquid/natural - so naturally with the added fairing and without any kind of above said cooling technology your bike is getting really hot , you should have bought without the fairing - this is INDIA not foreign countries where the temp will be helpful for motorcycles with fairings - My advice use 10w40 FS oil - as it will keep your internal protected and cool - and do not do any kind of fairing modification as it might hamper the stability - and secondly do not block the air in the front fairing with stupid items like - mud guard and leg guard(not possible for the fairing) and also do not keep any kind of cleaning cloth at there , I have seen many people with this - use the 10w40FS oil and ride safe - if the engine gets really hot then let it cool down - dont worry your machine is fine - this type of problem also arises in KTM too - In future buy naked or semi-fairing ! - Ride safe .

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Well, I am aware. I live in Ahmedabad where temperature touches 42 degrees easily in summers. My point is SVC fixed it but it came back. The engine gets hot so the hot air should be around leg or thighs. What about seat? I didn't see any thing which can heat the seat. May be I will replace the oil with the one you have advocated. The bike is in stock condition. I don't like modifying my bike.

I will try to deal with it with shell premium petrol. I will inform if it solves the problem. And yes, I researched on internet before getting this bike. Not only that the sales guy gave me test ride of same bike before I bought it. It was all fine before second service. The second service screwed it.

Plus any pointers for transmission? I cleaned, tightened, and lubed the chain, but the sound returns after some time. I am thinking to replace the transmission. Hope that solves my problem.

1. Make sure your carburetor is not set to rich. This would make it heat up easily.

2. Make sure that you are not using one of those water proof foot boards that people tie to their bikes. Those will cause heating.

3. Make sure your engine's heat fins are clean and not caked in mud etc.

4. Ensure proper oil level. This is very important. too little and too low will cause problems.

In suzuki gsxr engines (including our 155cc one) there is a small nozzle inside the engine which sprays oil into the underside of the piston to keep it cool at higher RPMs. To test if this is working properly or not, put the bike on centre stand and look at the oil level. Then rev it a bit to 6000RPM. The oil level should go down drastically and almost appear empty. But it should come back when idling. If this does not happen your engine has problems. I would immediately file for warranty.

As for the gear box, unless you are just facing tight/shifting issue, its normal for new bikes, specially sports bikes. Infact the notchy ness people most people complain about is highly valued in the motoring world.
Gear changes should be like performing surgery, quick, and exact. If it gets stuck while changing gear then its a small issue. you can wait as it will go away with time or have the SVC guys grind down the start plate which will solve the issue. However, DO NOT expect it to be like moving a plain level up and down. It should feel like a button.

This notchyness arrives because if it was all floppy, then the gears would slip out of itself. specially with engines like the gixxers which has high torque even at idle. How much torque? I have never seen a air cooled carburetted 150cc engine that can pull you along in 1st without any throttle(6kph)


I have read 3 year old pulsars and avengers and new ones, but although the gear box feels good when new, it does not inspire confidence, and sure enough, after 3 years you will have to guess if the gear has shifted or not

[dhwanan]

Re: Suzuki Gixxer SF : Ownership thread

[QUOTE=Dipan12;1225385]

As you are saying before the 2nd service the bike was normal but afterwards it is creating problem - then it will have to be the engine oil - what is the recommended oil for you bike according to the manual book ? follow it strictly - I MEAN STRICTLY - in term of grades - In my case i use to follow the 10w30(Motul)grade in my karizma r 2015 but after changing it to 10w40/20w40 - lack of pickup and also the engine was quite hotter than usual - I know thicker oil are best in summer - but in my case same as your using the outside grade oil made the engine rough and noisy - so changed it back after 1000 KM of riding and till now the bullet proof engine of karizma is still going on and on without that heat - I mean during traffic it was like I am seating on a furnace - ok to the question of yours - change your oil to any reputed brand - MOTUL / SHELL / ELF / GULF / MOBIL and see the changes - secondly check for pre inspection in your bike like - spark plug gap and carbon deposits / air filter blockage / blockage of any kind inside the fairing(hardly doubt it) but check - but specifically check your oil level it should not be lower the LOW mark and have they changed the oil or the svc told that they have changed it ? have the changed the oil filter inside ? have they poured the 1lt new oil in your engine or just told you that they will pour ? - check this things - as you are saying that after visiting the svc - check for the oil colour - if its black / dark brown - they have not changed - or - if they have changed then have they used the recommended grade - check this !
In case of transmission noise - I could not get it ! really . Bike do make noise when they are fired up - you have to be specific - tik-tik noise / sewing machine noise - loose tappets symptoms - others noise - you have to tell us - and about chain noise , do not worry , o-ring/open ring chain do sound when they are rotating and thats normal , unless your chain is not properly cleaned or lube by chain lube or engine oil(I use) - check for that .
And about petrol please bhai use normal unleaded petrol - its a normal sports cum commuter cum touring bike and no need of speed petrol - unless your bike has highes compression ration which I doubt - I have seen in KTM / Kawasaki H2R - etc / Yamaha R1 / R25 / R6 / R1 - etc they need power/speed petrol - but people like us with lower compression ration bike - normal petrol is more than enough - but - pour from reputed always ON petrol pump .
Is your bike new ? I hope so as you have specified that after SECOND Service - I think your transmission is fine - if you just specify me about the noise it would be great .

Just made a discovery for the sake of helping you - your bike seat is getting hot because - heat is coming from the cylinder head and it is normal - the heat has to go somewhere so your seat is getting hot - I have read the post in suzuki GSXR600 the bikers too have the same problem - in their case they have the radiator but on the 150cc its air cooled - so you can understand that the heat is from the cylinder head which is normal - don't worry just get habituated

OR

Is your battery under the seat - if it is like the bigger suzukis then the battery is getting over heated - reason for overheating - overcharged by svc - so check the battery -

ANY 1 will be the cause - either POINT 1 / 2.

Thanks for the reply. Appreciate it. I checked for points one and two (the bold ones). Gixxer has detachable seat. It opens like an activa's seat. There is nothing underneath it like you mentioned.

You are right about the engine oil, let me give that a shot. I was there when SVC changed the engine oil (thanks to xbhp forum). When I read it first I found it amusing, but when I did it myself I found it very helpful. So yeah a big thanks to the community. I will get oil refilled with Shell, since I get all my vehicles fuelled there. Will update what happens after it. And I lately discovered a pattern. When I shift up all gears at 7K rpm; from stand still (I did this to test on very controlled road. In my city there is a 2 km long underpass which has very less traffic and closed banked road) the engine gets heated faster (almost instantaneous) and more significantly. I specially rode KTM 390 to test the heating; trust me KTM has absolutely no match to my heating seat.

About the transmission the sound is identical to one which comes when you reverse a car. And its annoying.

Once again thanks for the reply! Cheers!

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[QUOTE=de.das.dude;1225467]

1. Make sure your carburetor is not set to rich. This would make it heat up easily.

2. Make sure that you are not using one of those water proof foot boards that people tie to their bikes. Those will cause heating.

3. Make sure your engine's heat fins are clean and not caked in mud etc.

4. Ensure proper oil level. This is very important. too little and too low will cause problems.

In suzuki gsxr engines (including our 155cc one) there is a small nozzle inside the engine which sprays oil into the underside of the piston to keep it cool at higher RPMs. To test if this is working properly or not, put the bike on centre stand and look at the oil level. Then rev it a bit to 6000RPM. The oil level should go down drastically and almost appear empty. But it should come back when idling. If this does not happen your engine has problems. I would immediately file for warranty.

As for the gear box, unless you are just facing tight/shifting issue, its normal for new bikes, specially sports bikes. Infact the notchy ness people most people complain about is highly valued in the motoring world.
Gear changes should be like performing surgery, quick, and exact. If it gets stuck while changing gear then its a small issue. you can wait as it will go away with time or have the SVC guys grind down the start plate which will solve the issue. However, DO NOT expect it to be like moving a plain level up and down. It should feel like a button.

This notchyness arrives because if it was all floppy, then the gears would slip out of itself. specially with engines like the gixxers which has high torque even at idle. How much torque? I have never seen a air cooled carburetted 150cc engine that can pull you along in 1st without any throttle(6kph)


I have read 3 year old pulsars and avengers and new ones, but although the gear box feels good when new, it does not inspire confidence, and sure enough, after 3 years you will have to guess if the gear has shifted or not

Let me try revving the engine. If what you say is true the dealership, SVC, and CO are in a for a trouble. A big one.

Just making a double check, is there any reliable source which can support what you say. I absolutely don't have any knowledge on the SEP tech of Suzuki.

Like you said gear shift is precise art like surgery. In gixxer if you want smooth gear shift, optimum use of engine, be in the rev band, and getting an economy north of 47 shift up at 6K rpm. Not less not more. May be it is due to the peak torque kicking in at 6K rpm.

I did this drill. I fuelled bike to 10 ltr of petrol. For one batch of fuel I shifted up at 4k rpm. The FE was 39. Did fuelling once again, this time made all possible shift at 7.5-8K rpm. Got FE of 42.8. Did this third time. this time all possible shift at 6k rpm, the FE was shot up to 48.9 .If I had heard this from someone else, I won't endorse it. I did it on my own bike and got these results. Oh and the fuel was from the same petrol station (shell) all times. Let me know if anyone else has done this observation/experiment.

[yatishankar]

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Fellow friends need pointers/help from you

1. which is teh best service station for gixxer in Bangalore
2. will it be a better choice to move to Motul 300v or motul 7100 after it has clocked 11450 kms.
3. whats the Fuel efficiency you all are getting on a highway
4. I cant reach beyond 110 kmph sitting upright on my gixxer sf. does it mean there is a power loss. I am hearing 122kmph speeds also.

Many thanks in advance

[prasath_xbhp]

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Hello xbhpians, I just bought the Gixxer SF Special Edition Helmet ( Blue Colour ) ( Size XL ) ( Price Rs. 2199/- ). I live in chennai and bought it from OMS Suzuki in Velachery. And just clicked a few pics throughout my trip. I also test rode a White Suzuki Gixxer ( Naked Version ).

Even though I don't own a Suzuki Gixxer yet, I will definitely buy one ( got my eyes fixed squarely on the Metallic Blue Naked Gixxer since its launch in 2014 ) in the near future, cauz we have 3 Suzuki bikes at home,

IND-Suzuki AX100 ( 1984 ) ( JAPAN )

TVS-Suzuki MAX100R ( 2002 )

TVS-Suzuki Fiero ( 2000 )

[Dipan12]

Re: Suzuki Gixxer SF : Ownership thread

[QUOTE=dhwanan;1225540][QUOTE=Dipan12;1225385]



Thanks for the reply. Appreciate it. I checked for points one and two (the bold ones). Gixxer has detachable seat. It opens like an activa's seat. There is nothing underneath it like you mentioned.

You are right about the engine oil, let me give that a shot. I was there when SVC changed the engine oil (thanks to xbhp forum). When I read it first I found it amusing, but when I did it myself I found it very helpful. So yeah a big thanks to the community. I will get oil refilled with Shell, since I get all my vehicles fuelled there. Will update what happens after it. And I lately discovered a pattern. When I shift up all gears at 7K rpm; from stand still (I did this to test on very controlled road. In my city there is a 2 km long underpass which has very less traffic and closed banked road) the engine gets heated faster (almost instantaneous) and more significantly. I specially rode KTM 390 to test the heating; trust me KTM has absolutely no match to my heating seat.

About the transmission the sound is identical to one which comes when you reverse a car. And its annoying.

Once again thanks for the reply! Cheers!

Its normal when you race your machine from a stand still to higher speed the engine will get heated up as all the internal have to work extremely hard to please you - jokes apart - don't do this as this might affect your internals in future - only if this is your habit - if not then it's ok but still don't race your engine without any reason - for the sake of testing is ok but do not do this . Once I did on my karizma r from standstill to 130 kmph - believe me it was too much fun as i reached 60 in 3 sec and in 130 in 12-15 sec - but the engine was hotter and when i stopped the bike - the bike did not started at the first crank but after two cranks - because the inside has got too much hooooot - and in case of transmission noise as I have no idea on suzuki because mine is karizma new one and the gixxer sf is your its completely different scenerio - but look after this point - in case of noise from transmission - is the gears are extremely hard - neutral problem (like problem to shift to neutral after many times) - what is your ideal mileage - is there any burning smell - clutch play is good or not - or there is any khat khat noise - if none of this are there then it is normal for the new engine - you have to wait till 5-6000 KM to get the bike's gear and transmission to smooth out - in my case I have to wait till 6000 Km where all the bike internal has smoothed out .

[shailendra.k]

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So guys in the above picture, whats shown is the fork cap of the front suspension fork. I just want to know, whether the part pointed at is the groove for the oil seal

if anyone knows, kindly reply

[de.das.dude]

Re: Suzuki Gixxer SF : Ownership thread

[QUOTE=dhwanan;1225540]

Thanks for the reply. Appreciate it. I checked for points one and two (the bold ones). Gixxer has detachable seat. It opens like an activa's seat. There is nothing underneath it like you mentioned.

You are right about the engine oil, let me give that a shot. I was there when SVC changed the engine oil (thanks to xbhp forum). When I read it first I found it amusing, but when I did it myself I found it very helpful. So yeah a big thanks to the community. I will get oil refilled with Shell, since I get all my vehicles fuelled there. Will update what happens after it. And I lately discovered a pattern. When I shift up all gears at 7K rpm; from stand still (I did this to test on very controlled road. In my city there is a 2 km long underpass which has very less traffic and closed banked road) the engine gets heated faster (almost instantaneous) and more significantly. I specially rode KTM 390 to test the heating; trust me KTM has absolutely no match to my heating seat.

About the transmission the sound is identical to one which comes when you reverse a car. And its annoying.

Once again thanks for the reply! Cheers!

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Let me try revving the engine. If what you say is true the dealership, SVC, and CO are in a for a trouble. A big one.

Just making a double check, is there any reliable source which can support what you say. I absolutely don't have any knowledge on the SEP tech of Suzuki.

Like you said gear shift is precise art like surgery. In gixxer if you want smooth gear shift, optimum use of engine, be in the rev band, and getting an economy north of 47 shift up at 6K rpm. Not less not more. May be it is due to the peak torque kicking in at 6K rpm.

I did this drill. I fuelled bike to 10 ltr of petrol. For one batch of fuel I shifted up at 4k rpm. The FE was 39. Did fuelling once again, this time made all possible shift at 7.5-8K rpm. Got FE of 42.8. Did this third time. this time all possible shift at 6k rpm, the FE was shot up to 48.9 .If I had heard this from someone else, I won't endorse it. I did it on my own bike and got these results. Oh and the fuel was from the same petrol station (shell) all times. Let me know if anyone else has done this observation/experiment.

i heard it somewhere.. it was at the launch. look for that video. power drift has also mentioned it a few times.

as for the fuel efficiency thing, there is a valid reason for that. Most carburetted engines are meant to be most efficient in the centre of their RPM range. hence why 4-6K its more efficient. So always shift up at 6K RPM. I even regularly go to 10K RPM now since break in is over. Also this is a sports bike, so it develops power AFTER mid range.
source : i am a mechanical engineer.

[Mohd Akbar]

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Hello everyone,

just a quick question. My GSF has clocked over 2k kms till now. The second service is due in May. May 19th to be precise.
But for now, my engine oil has become too dark. Shall I change the oil now or wait till the next service which is in next month?

Replies would be appreciated. (Last posts went ignore)

[devils_friend]

Re: Suzuki Gixxer SF : Ownership thread

Hello everyone,

just a quick question. My GSF has clocked over 2k kms till now. The second service is due in May. May 19th to be precise.
But for now, my engine oil has become too dark. Shall I change the oil now or wait till the next service which is in next month?

Replies would be appreciated. (Last posts went ignore)

How many kms have you covered post oil change?

Oil tends to become black as it covers kms.