Re: Suzuki GS150R

Just a heads-up; I could feel the GS getting harsher after a 500km run. Never ripped it. Didn't do any crazy, continuous-high-speed runs either.
It had to be either the Oil giving up too soon or that new-tech 'maintenance-friendly' filter. The former turned out just fine. Was shocked when the mech showed me the dust laden filter! In just 5-600kms. Terrible!!

Once cleaned it got smooth again. Woohoo!

That filter is simply useless for Indian conditions. I asked him if i could use K&N or some other viscous 'regular' option. He said; you could, and it will certainly do a better job but there would be a distinct 'humm' which you will not like. And i certainly wouldn't!

Is there a solution for this, without introducing even the tiniest bit of humming? Or will i just need to clean that crappy paper filter after each longish run (say, 250-400kms).

Secondly, i told him about it not being able to pull cleanly in the ghats (two-up), so he tightened the chain (which was surprisingly very loose, about 3" of slack!).
...and he said that the bike was running too rich so he increased the air-fuel ratio.
Question: Shouldn't it be the other way around? That is, if i am missing pulling power i need a richer mix, right?
And can a leaner mix cause harshness at higher speeds?



Cheers.

Re: Suzuki GS150R

I got a call from another dealer sujata suzuki Coimbatore. Because of aadi maasam...which is inauspicious for people here which starts the coming thursday they offered me 1.5k cash discoumt on the gs...he is a new dealer and has 2 white and 3 black gs 2014 mafe...today I selected a black gs and made payment. Monday is the delivery. Eagerly waitinf..

Can someone help me on the ride of initial break-in period ?? I will read the manual but before that need to confirm. I was in a dilema to chose black or white...but booked black...

Re: Suzuki GS150R

Not exactly sure but can't you use RTR's air filter, If my memory isn't wrong then they're similar.


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Hey Congratulations! I got a black one too. (though I guess the newer versions don't sport the metal logo on the tank)

Make sure you PDI it well! (I had a number of issues on mine!).
I am sure you can find a full checklist somewhere here.

Anyway, look for:
- Odo reading. If it has already run over 30-40 kms you 'may' want to ask for a replacement.
- Brake and Engine Oil levels
- Smoothness in clutch and brake levers
- Hard/cracked rubber (on the fuel tank lid, bushes near the engine etc.)
- The key should smoothly slide into the ignition slot, fuel tank cap and the seat-removal-lock (can't recall the word for it)
- While riding it should not squeak too much (which again may mean that the dampeners have hardened due to standing in the sun for too long)
- Rust: Check everywhere from inside the fuel tank, on the underbody, side/main stands and under the seat. (this was an issue on early makes only, but just to be sure)
- Dents and paint chipping
- cut or generally damaged cables
- rattling on the panels running below the seat
- Front and rear tires; for cracks or other wear signs
- Electricals (horn, indicators, low/high beam, pilot lamps, pass indicator and tail light)
- Dash (be sure all buttons and modes work, and there are no scratches)
- Oil leakage in the front forks (this can occur if it was recklessly unloaded resulting in a busted seal)
- tool kit (below the seat) should have what is listed in the manual

Running-in
- For the first 800kms you'd want to stay <5k and >2.5k on the tacho.
- Avoid driving at a constant RPM for long
- Avoid: sudden bursts, engine braking and taking two-up on steep inclines (ghats etc.)
- i'd suggest that the Engine oil be changed at the 500km mark. You 'may' want to try a semi-synthetic like Motul 5100 (15W50).
- you 'may' also want to get that air filter cleaned at the 500km mark. (It will just take 10mins of your time more than anything else).
- Be sure to check for chain slackness from time to time!

For the next 800-1000kms, you'd want to stay below 7k on the tacho.


Not sure either. Haven't tried anything yet. I wanted to hear from the GS owners who have gone that route. I heard that Unicorn has that same terrible filter, maybe i should check that thread as well.
By the way, Nice travelogue Ashwin. And did you get that IBA certification finally?

Cheers.

Suzuki GS150R

Unicorn's is paper filter in tray form, but isn't RTR's and GS's cylindrical? Or did they change it in the new version?

No IBA, I still do long runs but just for the experience(tomorrow will be riding to Bangalore) IBA has too many guidelines to follow and am not the kind of person with enough friends to stand as witnesses or the kind to photograph and document it, plus am too cheap to pay the $35 entry fee as we'll

Edit;

Hey I found the post.


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Re: Suzuki GS150R

Rear-Wheel Torque & Power figures of Yamaha-FZ16/FZS:
Borrowed/Stolen photo from @bikerboy The POWERHOUSE Fz18 - Page 98



Not much power/torque at rear-wheel where actual performance is delivered. GS150R graph will be similar if not same. I'm not sure if this graph is cumulative of all individual gear graphs by superposition or not.

I don't know how much these guys : http://racedynamics.in/products/dynard-dynamometers/ charge for a Dyno-Test.

No filter can cope with dusty roads. I wonder what they use for motocross bikes & how long they last.

Owner's manual is like an organic-chemistry textbook, boring .
Page 6-12 : Air Cleaner - frequent cleaning is required if bike is ridden in dusty conditions.
Page 5-6 : Riding on Hills

• engine has to be delivering peak-torque i.e @6,000 RPM
• up-shifting from 2 to 3 has to be quick, with RPMs hovering around 6,000 RPM to compensate loss of momentum of GS with two up.

Both rich/lean hinder bike's performance. We know carburettor AFR becomes rich at higher altitudes, thanks to many Himalayan travel-logs.

Oxygen is denser than Nitrogen & CO₂ is denser than Oxygen. All implicating that empty country-side tarmacs are best bet for good performance.
We've divided opinions with K&N and other performance filters.

• I remember @MACH50 installing an air-pump along with other mods. Not sure what's the status of the bike now. He bought KTM Duke200 some time back.
• There was one user who retro-fitted Fiero's foam filter on to GS150R. Search this thread you will find it.
• Another user, @KIRTIMANNAN I guess) went with big-bore kit. I don't know what filter he was using. I just learned that he bought CBR250R last January.

@KIRTIMANNAN What did you do to your GS150R ? Did you sell it or still own it ? Kept the Big-Bore or went full-stock?

I/We don't know what @MACH50 did to his GS150R.

So, GS150R's Air-Filter is totally compatible with Apache180 or did you make any adjustments?

Why did you go with GS150R's filter? cheap or quality or you had a spare one?

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Yes, cylindrical. Though I meant both of them have that flimsy paper filter. Rather than the robust ones found on my RX & Pulsar Classic.
Certifications of any kind, i detest. It's just a way of differentiating oneself, especially when we are already born with that characteristic. Good to see you enjoying the ride, and only that.
And thanks for the link.

Thanks Doc, you are the best! Now mail me a copy of that 'GS150r: A guide to solve it all' compendium that you've been secretly working on, Please. ;-)
The boring/jetting options are not for me, not a new bike for sure. I'll just stick with cleaning up more often then.
Let me dig into that Fiero filter mod now.


Cheers.

Re: Suzuki GS150R

Hey Guys..
[MENTION=36366]SparKot[/MENTION] Am surprised you remembered bro.

Unfortunately, I sold my GS when I got my CBR. Thats why am not active on this thread anymore.

I got the big bore kit installed along with Simonta air filter and 28 MM carb. When I sold my GS it was still with all the mods. But it was almost dead. Needed major engine work. My recommendation is that Please DONT modify the GS. It is not meant for speed. Its more of a cruiser. Enjoy its sedate character and cruising capabilities. Any money put to improve its performance is most likely going to deter the bike and cause damage you can live without!!

My two cents, rest is upto the users.

Happy to see some people are still buying the GS even now. Keep the thread going guys. Its one heck of a good bike. A worthy companion in any terrain or weather. Take care of it and it takes good care of you.

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yea its just a matter of removing the side panel and the 4screws and popping in the filter and screw it back.
reason i went for gs150 paper filter was to get a crisper response in the hot sunny days but its better off on stock foam during the rainy days here in kerala.




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Guys I need ur opinion if my dealer is cheating me on the scheduled services.

This will be my 7th service. I requested him for cleaning and lubrication of chain. Charges Rs. 200. Spark Plug Rs. 120.

As per him, cleaning and lubrication is not part of servicing. Is it true ??

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What charges?
Did they clean the chain?
So, the total bill was 320/- ?
7^th was a paid service?

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Charges of Rs. 200 for cleaning and lubrication of chain. Spark Plus Rs. 120. Yes total bill is Rs. 320. I have excluded the labour charges for 7th paid service as I had already paid Rs.1700 in advance for 6 paid services.

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Guys, I switched my exhaust with another exhaust and my bike still misfires. I read about air cut off valves and I want to see if that is what's causing the misfire but I do not know where that is on the carb. It would be really great if someone could post a picture of it.

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Here you go.

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Crap I guessed the air cut valve would go there. Thank You so much bro.
I think I got why my engine misfires during deceleration. That part is not at all there in my carb.
Its sad that the ASC guys could not figure this one out despite checking my carb twice and then once during normal service. The service manager asked me to replace the carb.

This pic is not of my carb's. I took this pic from one of the posts here. My carb looks like this. There is no air cut valve like in the pic posted by Ashwin.
Now its making me wonder if the valve indeed goes in the top left next to the throttle cable.