So the life of a tubeless is only half that of tubed type. Is that by design or since they use more soft compound rubber?

vishnukmd: where did you get this info about 1/2 life of tubeless? BTW the life of tyres depends on the compound of rubber, and since pilot sporty are not sports tyres, but rather street tyres, they don't have soft compound, and hence no such claims hold good. Pls provide a link to support your statement.

Guys......Finally I did it...

I booked the gsr today....the blue/black obviously....well i will be taking the delivery next week....probabaly tuesday....as it is said to be a good day....
I just cannot wait more...it has been really a long wait....

Agreed. Punctures are just a matter of luck. But I would like to add that repairing TL type tyres is not that expensive. Puncture repair kits are available for Rs.200, with atleast 5 strips in them. Works out to around Rs.40 per puncture, approximately the same rate as fixing a TT tyre in a puncture repair shop.


Disagree-tyre life depends on a number of factors.
1. Type of compound
2. Type of terrain/roads used on
3. Regular tyre pressure checkup
and so on.
In my case, my older bike's TT rear tyre was completely bald at 20K kms.but my new bike's TL rear tyre still has some life left in it even at 20K kms.
Both the tyres had their pressure check done on a regular basis.

Yes. Plugging it is so easy-it can be done by us, without the need for tyre removal from the rim.
Convenience wise, TL is way better!

But TL tyres are not advisable for bikes with spoked wheels.

Oh yeah buddy, you don't need to write in a larger font-people will still read what you wrote!

hey Bro...are you really serious...can we really fix a tubeless michellin to the gsr????

Can you please provide me the details of which michelin tyre can we fix...I will be going once I get the bike....

Also please let me know if the warranty will get void if we change the stock tyres....please let know guys...

thanks...

Your bike will do good with the TL type tyre, since it has alloy wheels.
You have quite a few options-if you are interested in more of tarmac grip, I would suggest Michelin Pilot Sporty, like Animeher has suggested. Life will not be very high though on this one.
If you are looking for an on&off road comfort, Michelin Sirac Street is the option to consider. However, this is a TT tyre.
Both will be available in 100/90/18", your stock rear tyre size.

Bhai thanks for the precious inputs...we need constant guiding like this...

Previously I had P150 and it had tube tyres...those were also good....But when I had a chance to ride my friends RTR 180 for some days....I felt the TL tyres of that bike were excellent.....even considering the porr quality of TVS tyres compared to MRF or Michelin....

So does this mean we can fix TL to any type of alloy wheels like the GSR....kindly confrim...
I always thought that TL tyres are only for specially made alloy wheels....and not all alloy wheels....!!!

Tubeless tyres do not fit onto spoked rims well because the material of the rim makes the tyre beading slip around a lot&cause air pressure loss.
In case of alloys, the tyre edges will stick to the rim inner edge, therefore suitable for tubeless usage.
Since you already have alloy wheels, it is the other way round-instead of checking the rim, check whether the tyre you are opting for can be used as a tubeless!
Hope you understood the point!

Guru_007: Congo on booking the bike!

TL tyres can be fitted to all alloy wheels. I still doubt whether life of michelin pilot sporty (which is exact same size as the stock rear) is less than normal tyres, because nowhere it is mentioned that it is specially sticky or made of soft compound. The showroom guy too voiced the same opinion, that the life will be similar to the usual tyres, as this was not specially designed soft compound one (like in case of R15).

Anyways, if anyone can point out some website that says so, that would be helpful.

It is not as soft compound as R15, but Satish who has used it on his RTR, said that it gave slightly lesser life than the previous MRF/others he used.
Most of the users of Michelin tyres have claimed slightly lesser life, but much better grip. I think the tradeoff is fine. Maybe they have used a slightly softer compound compared to what MRF/Dunlop use, in order to get better grip.
I got Michelins recently for my older bike too-excellent grip, too early to talk about life!

Thanks bhai...I understood the point now....

I will be going for michelin once I buy the bike....I really do not like the stock tyres of GSR....
As I stay in Hyderabad could you please let me know where I can get Michelin tyres that you mentioned before in hyderabad for a good price....



Thanks bro...I am just waiting for the day to arrive....
have you changed your tyres till now?? kindly let me know

Tubeless Tires

Tubeless tires give better grip and feel, but the downside is that if the rim is hit in a pot hole or steep speed breaker, it starts to loose air.There are many cases wherein the side walls of the tire had been damged due to this.In our country given the roads,wherein in a highway too we get pot holes,it is safer to ride with a tube tire... just my thought...

Yes, I will surely help you. There is a shop beside Balaji at Punjagutta. Very honest&best prices even compared to Balaji.
I can even come with you if I am free. Do PM me for my no.once you have decided.

That is due to the alloys bending-once they are bent, the tubeless tyre will certainly lose air from the bend, whereas in case of TT tyres, since the air is contained in the tube, it does not cause air loss.
Its more of spoked rims vs.alloy rims, this case.

I think it is more of a rim distortion due to damage,and I had also seen side walls of tires bulging or cut after a bad pot hole or speed breaker hit. With tubed tire you can still drive on,whereas TL will leak air immediately.
I was sharing my opinion on what happens once you are hit with a Tube Less tire.

Yes, that's what I was also trying to say-I have seen this side cut/bulging issue with an FZ personally. Since there is no tube, the moment there is anything wrong with the rim, air will start leaking out.
One more thing (this is the case with my bike presently)-if you have micro punctures on the tyre's tread, like those that are caused by going over glass, small sharp stones etc., the TT tyre is not affected at all, since the tube which holds air is safe inside. Whereas, the TL tyre will slowly start leaking air through these small holes. They are too small&too many to repair by plugging the strips in them.
This is happening currently in my bike. I got to know only after pouring water on the tyre&seeing many bubbles!
So overall, it does have its disadvantages, but the advantages outweigh the downsides.
The way I look at it is if we are stuck on a highway with a puncture, we can ride on much longer. No sudden deflation, very less chances of bursting. Till the nail is in, mostly the air does not even leak out. I actually rode my bike with a nail in it for more than 2 months!
And, the biggest advantage is not having to remove the tyre from the rim for repair, which means we can do it ourselves anywhere, provided we have the kit. This is the USP for me atleast.