i thought he compared the ratio of the literclass bikes along with the ones mentioned and not GS........

@Maestro: But my point about these Indian bikes among the most stable under braking is still valid As per my riding experience with them

I have sent a message. Please let me know whether you have received it or not.

Here it is raining. Villages are not like cities. If even a drop of rain is poured, everything like electricity, phone and internet are gone. I was not getting proper net connection for the last few hours.
Please let me know.

Anyhow, you can try and sending an application under this act is easy and it is the easiest way to obtain information.

I too agree that it is a nice idea. But there may be some others like me who are ready to accept facts without the help of others.

I wonder what else did you, who kept mum about my different suggestion to check the modes yesterday, expect from me. How much do you know about the TPS and its linkage to the different modes while the bike is idling?

I may be a fool but do not think that I am an utter fool to not understand that it is almost impossible to maintain a constant engine RPM, even at the time of idling by twisting the accelerator.

I have no prejudicial views about GS, even though I am a proud – perhaps the proudest – owner of it.

And let me say that mine is not an “aho nadam, aho dvani” personality to say ‘Halleluyah’ to every other’s opinions because I am a self earning man who almost never depend others for my livelihood.

It seems that you are awaiting the opinion of Suzuki experts. To whom and when did you ask your doubts?

I do agree with almost all your findings except some like the ratio and the brakes of other bikes.
I am in a hurry as my UPS is dying.

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@vishnu....it would be very kind of you all if you can just multiquote the messages.....

I think you misunderstood what I wanted to say. I quoted the example to make one understand that front brakes are the ones which should have more braking force and not the rear. The likes of P220, Karizma and all others were given to show that they are stable with just the front brakes they have, but they dont really need the rear disc brakes for their normal working.

By my comment "heavily imbalanced", i meant that rear disc brakes are just a goodie. The braking power of rear brakes are set very low, why even provide it if there is no need for them???

@Vishnu

The ratio's are just a simple logical assumption. I'm very sure in a liter class bike the ratio would be much more.

Maestro,
I shall try my best but what I do is not purposively. My net connection is broadband, but due to the distance from the exchange, it is very slow and automatically becomes logged out within a few minutes.

Anupdas, in all of "these" bikes, rear brake has actually proven to be a good enough feature that one shouldn't need to think of a drum brake as an option on them, except may be Dazzler. Having said that, I have ridden my friend's dazzler numerous times and I was mighty impressed by the rear brake performance and how it doesn't lock the rear wheel unless the force applied is too much. May be my braking skills are good enough.

Anyways, unless we experience some serious over braking on these bikes due to the presence of disc at rear, I guess we have nothing to complain about

Coming back to GS, so do the modes really work?! It doesn't really matter to me, but it'll be interesting to know! But I am still surprised that why didn't Suzuki advertise them at all in the ads or on the website if the modes actually change the fuel flow!

Why ???
Simply because it doesn't have rear disc brake ???
Well, then the assumption is very funny that only rear disc brakes provides unlimited safety.We had bikes in India like RD350 which had 38-40 bhp of power and both the brakes operated on drums.Most of the Enfields used by Army are not equipped with disc brakes on neither of the wheels,yet they are used in terrains with almost no roads or having 90 degrees of steep climb downwards or upwards in places like Ladakh,Leh,Sikkim or Arunachal Pradesh.

Well, I can only say that braking on the GS150R has a feel next to ABS if it is in the right hands.Having ridden each and every bike you mentioned(and even ABS equipped bikes) that are way better than GS150R when it comes to braking,I can only conclude that GS150R has only a bit less stopping power than those with rear disc brakes but, it is equally confidence inspiring at the same time.

And among the rear disc equipped bikes,the best set of discs that I found are on the R15,so good that it even feels the best even in case reckless braking,very well optimized by the factory.The Pulsar220Fs are somewhat eager to lock in so it has to be done more carefully.RTR180 and ZMR rear sets are okay,but on a wet road..........well.The only Dazzler I have ridden might not have the rear disc optimized cause the feeling was very bad.The brake felt like a drum brake.

My bike got a continious clack-clack sound from the rear wheel/drum part (for the second time in as many months) while coming down downhill with rear brake pressed. The sound is really loud though it hasn't caused any problem in braking and it went away after some after riding on flat ground for a couple of minutes or so.

Any idea what is causing this?

The only situation one actually needs to use rear brake is on gravel, on all other situations front brake alone is sufficient to stop the bike. So where did "those" bikes proved good Most of the experienced riders use rear brakes when they brake softly.

The rear brakes in Pulsars and Apaches are notorious for lock ups in rainy and muddy conditions. Japs know their trade better so they are a little safer than their indian counter partss. On normal conditions everything works ok, but in a panic situation it locks. So IMHO all Indian bikes need only rear drum bikes. Developing a need for unnecessary items is a pure marketing technique. Thats what happened here about the hype of rear disc brake.

I'm not sure about the modes but GS150 is equipped with Suzuki Jet Cooling System and Balancer shaft . But it seems like they are not interested to market their products like Hero Honda .

I don't know how to rate both front and back break.
But for me back break is sufficient. I've completed 4500KMs in my GS and used the front breaks only few occasions(I'm sure it will be a single digit value). I'm not a person who rides bikes in higher speed. My top speed is 80 KMPH and used to ride the bike in an average speed of 60-70 KMPH.