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  • Prompt response from Suzuki

    Hello everyone,
    I had posted a feedback of low mileage on suzuki website on fri last week and pleased to get a call on monday from Mr.Deepak Saxena.He listened to grievances and promised to call up the SC guys in Pune and also asked me to call him up on his cell when giving my bike for 2nd service tomorrow.
    So i am pretty happy with their response till now, lets see what happens at SC.
    Also i have bought Shell SX4 oil bottle, can i ask SC guys to change it for me ????
    Since my bike is just 2k kms old i was thinking of replacing it later.
    Please advise

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    • Originally posted by Augustine09 View Post
      I'm now thinking about changing the regulator you talked about. How much will this cost ? Will the SC provide the option or will I have to do it by some mechanic ??
      The SC guys will change it for you.You can keep the old one in your spare kit.Sorry I have no clue about the cost.

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      • Originally posted by Sarvajit View Post
        Which is why I try the reserve to reserve method&it works pretty accurately, but you need to find a petrol pump as soon as it comes to reserve!
        Even if I find a petrol pump in say 3 kms.after it comes to reserve, I can subtract those 3 kms.&find out the distance travelled for 10 litres.
        You don't have to find a petrol pump as soon as bike hits reserve. You can ride upto 100-150kms in reserve.

        Originally posted by sanjukoli12 View Post
        Yesterday a funny thing happened.My fuel indicator was on the last point.I was riding the bike and suddenly it came to a stop.So i turned on to reserve and the bike started.So my question is how cum i am to know that the bike has finished with its fuel and should be turned to reserve to start.

        Since i thought the fuel indicator will blip if the knob has to be turned to reserve.
        Rather than the indicator, rely on the bike's feel. If main tank gets empty, bike will start choking. Then in running only, you can change it to reserve, and if you have good balance, you can reset the trip meter to zero for next mileage reading.

        Originally posted by imjoshee View Post

        Had been to the SVC centre to take test ride of the new lot & I was impressed (AS ALWAYS) with the smoothness of the engine. The engine was much smoother than what we have/had. Also there is a change in the electrical side,the company has changed the battery to a sealed battery & reduced power to 7.5amps,but the GOOD NEWS is they have changed the regulator to a more powerful one to get a brighter headlamp & I could notice the change while I was riding it.
        The quality has changed & the new lot had a good finish.

        Vishal
        I am going to buy a Osram Silverstar 55/60W bulb today, and in servicing tomorrow, I am requesting them to disable the pilot lamps (saving 10W) and put this bulb. Can you pls shed some light on the regulator stuff? I spoke with the manager, but he didn't have any idea on this.

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        • Originally posted by animeher View Post
          You don't have to find a petrol pump as soon as bike hits reserve. You can ride upto 100-150kms in reserve.
          Of course I know that! I was just helping that guy to calculate his mileage.
          In my bike's case, it has 2 litres of reserve which can give me at the best 86 kms. but it is not advisable to push it that much as it is fuel injected.
          Quench my thirst with gasoline!

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          • Originally posted by animeher View Post
            I am going to buy a Osram Silverstar 55/60W bulb today, and in servicing tomorrow, I am requesting them to disable the pilot lamps (saving 10W) and put this bulb. Can you pls shed some light on the regulator stuff? I spoke with the manager, but he didn't have any idea on this.
            The regulator is a heavy one & gives better output than the older lot. You need to check with the SC guys if they have got a regulator of the new lot.There is no design difference & both appear to be the same.If you have good relation with the SC guys just ask them to connect a new one from the new lot to your bike & then light up the 55/60w maybe you should get some results.ALL THE BEST!!!!

            Vishal

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            • Thanks buddy. I have good relations with the manager, so I hope I will be able to get this done. Will update day after tomorrow about my light quest

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              • Originally posted by imjoshee View Post
                You can write in to Suzuki & take their opinion.

                Else you can check out the Universal thread on OILS.

                Also an update from my regarding the Test Ride of the new lot.
                Had been to the SVC centre to take test ride of the new lot & I was impressed (AS ALWAYS) with the smoothness of the engine. The engine was much smoother than what we have/had. Also there is a change in the electrical side,the company has changed the battery to a sealed battery & reduced power to 7.5amps,but the GOOD NEWS is they have changed the regulator to a more powerful one to get a brighter headlamp & I could notice the change while I was riding it.
                The quality has changed & the new lot had a good finish.

                No other changes in terms of engine & other stuff.

                Vishal
                I think the sealed battery is very good. i've noticed that my battery gets wet almost every time i ride through rain. any way to prevent it from getting wet ??
                its pretty dangerous, and i dont want the battery to get short circuited so soon either
                Did they change pilot lamps to dc in the new lot ??
                i hav to try and get the new regulators for free somehow from the SC.
                is regulator and relay the same thing ??

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                • Originally posted by animeher View Post
                  Only once have i filled the tank to the brim, because full tank adds to the weight (1 lit petrol >= 1KG). I usually add 100rs petrol, ride till reserve, and then again put 100rs. This way I get mileage per rupee.
                  I heart from mechaincs that this idea is not accurate.

                  Originally posted by thefalcon View Post
                  Generally we have to tell the person at the bunk to fill for a specific amount before he starts filling. so how do u fill "till the tank becomes full". and stop before it starts overflowing ???

                  i know the question may sound stupid. i've never filled full tank in my bike because it'll take 1 months or more to come to reserve

                  reserve to reserve is ok but the only problem is bike turns off in the middle of the road when main gets over and its annoying.
                  and may be harmful to engine too.
                  Hope you know that the pertol piples have sensors and they would not let the petrol overflow for cars. For bike you can see directly and he will stop once the tank is full :-)

                  Originally posted by dhiwakar View Post
                  filling tank to tank also has its share of problems.. if this method has to be accurate you need to fill exactly to the same same level of the tank each time.. which is difficult to monitor each time.. also at time there might be small inclines in the floor which the bike isplaced while filling petrol that can give you wrong level ...

                  my suggestion is to fill from reserve to reserve... but as somebody pointed out reserve might not be accurate.. it is an approximation...

                  so if both methods are approximations only, then no harm in trying either of the two..

                  however if one can determine the closest approximation between the two one can follow whichever method one wants....


                  correct me ifam wrong..
                  Friend, GS 150R full take is, say around 16 lts? average mileage would be 55 KMPL? 3 Lts reserve means 12 Lts of petrol from Full tank to reserve? out of 12 Lts you can ride for 660 Kms. If few ML of petrol is not accurate between 2 Full Tanks hardly it would differ by 2-5 Kms and for 12 Lts. So that should not matter at all.

                  Originally posted by Sarvajit View Post
                  Which is why I try the reserve to reserve method&it works pretty accurately, but you need to find a petrol pump as soon as it comes to reserve!
                  Even if I find a petrol pump in say 3 kms.after it comes to reserve, I can subtract those 3 kms.&find out the distance travelled for 10 litres.
                  Just to give you an example why that R to R method is not ok. Get 100 Rs petrol filled and ride till next reserve. Once you get next reserve open the tank cap and re close it and bike will go for next 2-3 Kms bec there will be Air formed inside the tank. So you can not be sure about the meleage between R to R.

                  This is just for discussion. Anyone has any other thought, kindly share here.
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                  • Can someone who bought GS150 recently (new lot) post some feedback... Does it have any issues (mainly rusting, rough engine & other problems that first lot had?)

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                    • Originally posted by Bullet500 View Post
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                      Just to give you an example why that R to R method is not ok. Get 100 Rs petrol filled and ride till next reserve. Once you get next reserve open the tank cap and re close it and bike will go for next 2-3 Kms bec there will be Air formed inside the tank. So you can not be sure about the meleage between R to R.

                      This is just for discussion. Anyone has any other thought, kindly share here.
                      How is it going to affect the mileage? I dont see any point in what u told. Make it clear.
                      Reserve to Reserve method is also accurate but not as accurate as Full tank to Full tank method.
                      But it accuracy increases as u increase the amount of fuel u fill between the two reserve positions.
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                      • Originally posted by fayad555 View Post
                        How is it going to affect the mileage? I dont see any point in what u told. Make it clear.
                        Reserve to Reserve method is also accurate but not as accurate as Full tank to Full tank method.
                        But it accuracy increases as u increase the amount of fuel u fill between the two reserve positions.
                        My Friend, it is very easy to deny others' point. I personally experienced this and different mechanics also say the same thing.

                        Ok, i will explain the thing in scientific way. If you observe closely, you would find a very small hole in the petrol tank cap. And that is kept there for the air flow into the tank from outside so that petrol can go into the carburetter easily. You try to block the hole, petrol will stop flowing. As and when the petrol reduces in the tank, more empty space will create and more diff for the petrol to flow. So when you get to reserve open the cap and close it and you can still start the bike. I do not, completely say that the R to R method is inaccurate but Full to Full or Full to Empty is more accurate.

                        Again, this is just for the discussion purpose. I may be or may not be correct. I will, for sure, correct myself if i come to know that what i know is not correct :-)
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                        • Originally posted by Balajii.S View Post
                          Can someone who bought GS150 recently (new lot) post some feedback... Does it have any issues (mainly rusting, rough engine & other problems that first lot had?)
                          I have brought it recently and no such worries..I had brought the bike on 14th nov.

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                          • @SanjuKoli

                            Good.... I guess 10 days is too early to say because even old lot bikes were smooth & good for couple of months.... But I hope the new bikes stay that way for a long long time

                            BTW, for ppl who are not familar with Old GS, how will we know if a bike belongs to new lot or old lot? Is there any quick way to tell?

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                            • Originally posted by Balajii.S View Post
                              Good.... I guess 10 days is too early to say because even old lot bikes were smooth & good for couple of months.... But I hope the new bikes stay that way for a long long time

                              BTW, for ppl who are not familar with Old GS, how will we know if a bike belongs to new lot or old lot? Is there any quick way to tell?
                              new lot supposedly has 7.5ah battery.
                              old lot had 9ah battery.

                              and i dont think there is any change with respect to engine in old n new lot.

                              and if smoothness meant no vibrations, then its been smooth from beginning.
                              if smoothness meant sound from engine, then its not that smooth.

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                              • Originally posted by Bullet500 View Post
                                Hope you know that the pertol piples have sensors and they would not let the petrol overflow for cars. For bike you can see directly and he will stop once the tank is full :-)
                                You can overfill petrol even in a car-I have had both my cars tanks overflowing.

                                Friend, GS 150R full take is, say around 16 lts? average mileage would be 55 KMPL? 3 Lts reserve means 12 Lts of petrol from Full tank to reserve? out of 12 Lts you can ride for 660 Kms. If few ML of petrol is not accurate between 2 Full Tanks hardly it would differ by 2-5 Kms and for 12 Lts. So that should not matter at all.
                                The tank capacity is always stated upto the filler cap. If you go on filling, and shake the vehicle a bit, you can easily fill 1-1.5 litres more, without overflowing. I have tried it many a time when going on a long ride/drive. We have filled around 18lts.in my friend's RTR just to check this!

                                Just to give you an example why that R to R method is not ok. Get 100 Rs petrol filled and ride till next reserve. Once you get next reserve open the tank cap and re close it and bike will go for next 2-3 Kms bec there will be Air formed inside the tank. So you can not be sure about the meleage between R to R.
                                Right. Thats why the best method to test mileage is with 100ml.can connected to the tank, by asking someone to hold it behind.
                                Any other method will have atleast 2-3 kms.error, thats why I take a round figure of 10 lts.so that 2-3kms.doesn't matter much.

                                This is what I do for my R15:
                                1. When the bike comes to reserve, it creates a new tripmeter with F reading 0.0. I try to fill fuel within 2-3 kms. (there is no petrol on-off knob)
                                2. When I fill fuel, I reset the tripmeter 1. Fill exactly 10 litres.
                                3. The next time the bike comes to reserve, the F meter comes up.
                                4. Now I reset tripmeter 2.
                                Say now tripmeter 1 says I travelled 428 kms.
                                I need to subtract tripmeter 2 from it (distance taken now to reach petrol pump after coming to reserve), say 3 kms.
                                Also I need to subtract the distance to fuel station taken when I first filled petrol, say 2 kms.
                                Now this leaves me with 423 kms./10 litres, which is 42.3 kmpl.
                                The method will work for any amount of fuel IMO.

                                In case of my older carburetted bike Fiero F2, I follow the same, but since there is no indication that the bike is coming to reserve, I need to ride it till it stops, then turn the fuel knob to reserve position&of course reset the single tripmeter it has.
                                2-3 kms.before the bikes comes to reserve, it starts jerking, so I know its time for reserve. But I still ride it till it stops.
                                Your inputs please.
                                Quench my thirst with gasoline!

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