one more thing yesterday i changed the engine oil to castrol activ is it good or any damage may occur to my engine
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damn!!!!
my cousin is thinking of buying a GS150 butttt,,,
i have seen so many GS150's having a lot of problems say
"rusting problem ,mileage and many more", i am saying that on the basis of the small talks that i had with 5-6 GS'150 owners.
is it really that Suzuki need to look over the quality issue of bike,. i am sayin that because i own a P180UG4 clocked around 4500kms, but still i am regularly getting a mileage of 50+kmpl, and the bike is running without any issues, not even a single problem it has shown to me., and i am happy with bajaj(to which people really hates because of quality issues).
so what's GS150's owners say on the above quality issue??
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GS is a good bike.Since i have recently brought it cannot say much about the rust and other thing, but quality wise it is good.Tell your cousin to test drive the bike.tht will give him a better idea.Originally posted by abhichotu.abhi View Postdamn!!!!
my cousin is thinking of buying a GS150 butttt,,,
i have seen so many GS150's having a lot of problems say
"rusting problem ,mileage and many more", i am saying that on the basis of the small talks that i had with 5-6 GS'150 owners.
is it really that Suzuki need to look over the quality issue of bike,. i am sayin that because i own a P180UG4 clocked around 4500kms, but still i am regularly getting a mileage of 50+kmpl, and the bike is running without any issues, not even a single problem it has shown to me., and i am happy with bajaj(to which people really hates because of quality issues).
so what's GS150's owners say on the above quality issue??

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Can any one tell me what is the idle gear to drive in City traffic.In this case very heavy traffic where we have to frequently stop and go.Also in heave traffic do we have to keep the clutch pressed all the time.
Also at what gear do u ppl drive on slopes when ascending.The other day i was driving at 2 gear and trying to climb the bike stopped in the middle.Then i had to shift to first gear and go.
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sirOriginally posted by sanjukoli12 View PostCan any one tell me what is the idle gear to drive in City traffic.In this case very heavy traffic where we have to frequently stop and go.Also in heave traffic do we have to keep the clutch pressed all the time.
Also at what gear do u ppl drive on slopes when ascending.The other day i was driving at 2 gear and trying to climb the bike stopped in the middle.Then i had to shift to first gear and go.
ideal gear for city depends upon traffic.. yes.. to my knowledge nobody can tell you correctly what gear to drive in... it all comes as a matter of practice.... you may get it wrong in the beginning.. but as you get used to the bike, you will know which gear is suitable for which traffic... it comes only by practice and once there it is subconsicously taken care...
regarding ascents, i climb at 6th gear in city flyover if i have the momentum.... if i do not then i pull it in 4th and then get to 6th.. no issues whatsoever .... and all again depends upon the gradient of the ascent..
no hard and fast rule....
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Abhi,Originally posted by abhichotu.abhi View Postdamn!!!!
my cousin is thinking of buying a GS150 butttt,,,
i have seen so many GS150's having a lot of problems say
"rusting problem ,mileage and many more", i am saying that on the basis of the small talks that i had with 5-6 GS'150 owners.
is it really that Suzuki need to look over the quality issue of bike,. i am sayin that because i own a P180UG4 clocked around 4500kms, but still i am regularly getting a mileage of 50+kmpl, and the bike is running without any issues, not even a single problem it has shown to me., and i am happy with bajaj(to which people really hates because of quality issues).
so what's GS150's owners say on the above quality issue??

The problems mentioned here by you are from the 1st lot bike that was launched.Now there is no problem in the bike.I just met an owner of the new lot & upon enquiring he told me that there is no problem at all.
The bike is really good for long rides & the 6th gear is a boon on the highways. The sitting posture is also very comfy & the suspension if also soft.
Test ride the bike & you will notice the things I have mentioned here.
Vishal
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Originally posted by sanjukoli12 View PostGS is a good bike.Since i have recently brought it cannot say much about the rust and other thing, but quality wise it is good.Tell your cousin to test drive the bike.tht will give him a better idea.i have rode GS and my cousin too has and both of us were havin smiles on our faces after riding it,..Originally posted by imjoshee View PostAbhi,
The problems mentioned here by you are from the 1st lot bike that was launched.Now there is no problem in the bike.I just met an owner of the new lot & upon enquiring he told me that there is no problem at all.
The bike is really good for long rides & the 6th gear is a boon on the highways. The sitting posture is also very comfy & the suspension if also soft.
Test ride the bike & you will notice the things I have mentioned here.
Vishal
but as u guyz have mentioned that there is no issues in current one's then there is nothing wrong in trying it out.
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Originally posted by imjoshee View PostAbhi,
The problems mentioned here by you are from the 1st lot bike that was launched.Now there is no problem in the bike.I just met an owner of the new lot & upon enquiring he told me that there is no problem at all.
The bike is really good for long rides & the 6th gear is a boon on the highways. The sitting posture is also very comfy & the suspension if also soft.
Test ride the bike & you will notice the things I have mentioned here.
Vishal
Vishal bhai....you seem to be happy with the new lot of GS....
Any plans of buying it again....
...as per my knowledge you are still going strong on your old Fiero.....
So any plans to buy the GS again....and the Suzuki people might even offer you a discount....
Don't ask about me.....I have been waiting for eternity to buy the GS.....and I will be getting it once I come back.....
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This is an older post by Old Fox. This is excellen stuff. Many can benefit from it. Thanks again Old Fox.Originally posted by sanjukoli12 View PostAlso can any one tell me how to a good down shift of gears.
...gear-shifting begins not from the foot but from the body position and posture astride a bike. Good clean and smooth gear-shifts are the essence of good riding skills and are a great example of hand-foot-eye co-ordination.
#1 Posture: Sit on the bike with your knees gripping the tank, not hard so as to be fatiguing, but firm. The point is to load up the torso and abdominal muscles for most of the work, keeping the arms and legs unloaded - both to avoid fatigue and to allow for sensitive control inputs. (While sitting on a chair, try lifting any one leg and feel the torso/abdomen tighten in response. Thats what I mean). So, if you sit right and balanced, your control inputs can be finely controlled.
#2 Throttle control: The finer is your sense of controlling the RPM's through the throttle, the smoother can be your gear-shifts. Practice by holding throttle in say 2nd gear at 2000 rpm, gently increase to 2500 rpm and hold, without overshooting the 2.5k target. Learn to hold constant throttle on rough roads.
#3 Inner Tachometer: This is about developing an innate RPM sense. The seat-of-the-pants, ears and eyes are the primary senses that let the rider accurately access the RPM's even without a tacho. And a developed RPM sense comes to forte esp during downshifts. Train yourself by guessing the RPMs and then confirming with a glance at the tacho.
#4: Upshifts: Make them quickly. The less time you give the engine rpm's to drop below what should be for the next gear, the lesser are the chances of a jerky shift. Keeping two fingers on the clutch lever helps (provided the lever is adjusted properly). Just pull in the clutch enough to disengage the drive while you reduce throttle, upshift quickly and firmly, and let out the clutch as you get on the throttle. Smooth upshifts, especially at mid-rpm's, are usually the easiest to master. Poke the engine into the powerband and smoothness again becomes a tough co-ordination exercise.
#5: Down-shifts: Now this is what separates the men from the boys
. Blipping the throttle as you downshift is not difficult to acquire as a skill. The difficult part is getting the timing right and most riders give up when frustrated at this end. In simple terms, blipping is a short sharp twist of the throttle during the tiny interval between pulling in the clutch and shifting the gear. The purpose is to get the engine in the proper RPM's for the lower gear. The downshift will be smooth if the engine RPM is almost what it should be when the lower gear is selected at that given road speed. Complex when written and read but supremely doable by any practiced rider. The best is when the blip is co-ordinated with braking for the upcoming turn. Needs practice with two fingers on the front brake lever and the remaining two with the thumb wrapped around the throttle. Brake with two fingers while blipping the throttle as you de-clutch and downshift. Saves a LOT of drive-train wear (includes the gearbox, clutch, drivechain/shaft, sprockets), makes for a smooth ride for the pillion and sounds real cool. A real necessity on high power bikes, even with slipper clutches.
These points are imperative for sports bikes though it is best even for those riding our desi bikes to practice and inculcate such good riding habits. You never know when you get the chance to upgrade
. And smooth shifting will anyway help preserve your steed, whether it makes 10 bhp or 200.
Ride long and safe...
Old Fox
With great Power(and Torque) comes great responsibility.
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guys ! heard from mechanic that that tic tic tic tock sound from silencer is due to heating up of oil... told me to switch to synthetic as soon as possible coz synthetics can withstand really hot temperatures .... any one owns a bike with oil cooler(p220,200 zmr) ?any 1 has idea if we can buy a oil cooler from herohonda or bajaj and fix it in a gs ???? experts !!! wat do u say ????
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Dhiwarkar has posted sometimes ago about the sound. Some thing which is usually on the inside of exhaust on other bikes is on the outsides of GS, which helps facilitating maintaining speed on inclines etc. That's why it is the sound. Don't jump to synthetic oils before 5000kms.
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20w50
Hi All
As you all know, because of oil jetting in GS , there is foam found in the engine oil....
Read somewhere that, foaming of oil reduces its efficiency and reduces viscosity, causing more operating temperature of the OIL
Considering the above, is it advisable to change to 20W50 Oil which has a better viscosity than sticking to 20W 40???
What say??
Regarding tik tik sound, it sfrom the cooling of catalytic converter.. usually catalytic converter is present insidet he silencer, but in GS it is present outside the silencer near your brake pedal... since the CC is outside, the cooling is more audible.. the necessity of placing a CC outside the Silencer is to help the engine keep up the pressure and momentum when climbing gradients...
The CC information was provided when i enquired the same to the ASC in chennai..
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Originally posted by dhiwakar View PostWhatever oil you use sir, GS will become rough after 400 to 500 kms..
learn to live with it sir....since quite a few people are having the engine becoming rough problem and the mechanic suggested someone to switch to synthetic too,Originally posted by speed deamon View Post^^^ which oil is suitable for our bike which lasts long
could it be possible that suzuki recommended the wrong grade engine oil ??
the engine does get pretty hot too, may be our bikes need 20w50 grade(like pulsars) to maintain smoothness at higher temperatures.
may be we could give this as a suggestion to suzuki(by mail or phone).
any harm in trying 20w50 instead of 20w50 mineral oil ?(the viscocity is same for both oils at lower side "20" and the 50 means better viscocity for higher temp range)
sorry, i did not read dhiwakar's post before typing this. atleast i'm not the only one with this idea
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Hmm. I expected the GS to be running too smooth like a butter with less heat.Originally posted by thefalcon View Postsince quite a few people are having the engine becoming rough problem and the mechanic suggested someone to switch to synthetic too,
could it be possible that suzuki recommended the wrong grade engine oil ??
the engine does get pretty hot too, may be our bikes need 20w50 grade(like pulsars) to maintain smoothness at higher temperatures.
may be we could give this as a suggestion to suzuki(by mail or phone).
any harm in trying 20w50 instead of 20w50 mineral oil ?(the viscocity is same for both oils at lower side "20" and the 50 means better viscocity for higher temp range)
sorry, i did not read dhiwakar's post before typing this. atleast i'm not the only one with this idea
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anyway I have a CBZ Classic & U all must know that this bike is One such short stroke bike done by Honda which runs pretty rough post 5k Rpm & heats like Crazy.. the specified grade for the bike is 20w40.
After completing almost 67k kms in my bike I planned to use Fully Synthetic oil Motul 300V which was available only in W50 grade then & it helped me to a lot extent to overcome engine heating & roughness issue.
PS - Since the oil I have used is Fully Synthetic I cannot assure that it was due to W50 grade I have used. but If your bike is finished with the warranty then I see thier is no harm in trying if the W50 grade can help overcome the issues.sigpicAll India Permit 1+1
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