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  • Its called NVH, noise vibrations and harshness. GS is always good in last 2, and generally bad in 1st

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    • Originally posted by Bullet500 View Post
      I heart from mechaincs that this idea is not accurate.



      Hope you know that the pertol piples have sensors and they would not let the petrol overflow for cars. For bike you can see directly and he will stop once the tank is full :-)



      Friend, GS 150R full take is, say around 16 lts? average mileage would be 55 KMPL? 3 Lts reserve means 12 Lts of petrol from Full tank to reserve? out of 12 Lts you can ride for 660 Kms. If few ML of petrol is not accurate between 2 Full Tanks hardly it would differ by 2-5 Kms and for 12 Lts. So that should not matter at all.



      Just to give you an example why that R to R method is not ok. Get 100 Rs petrol filled and ride till next reserve. Once you get next reserve open the tank cap and re close it and bike will go for next 2-3 Kms bec there will be Air formed inside the tank. So you can not be sure about the meleage between R to R.

      This is just for discussion. Anyone has any other thought, kindly share here.
      sir ji

      i have filled petrol in GS for 15.87 litres with the petrol level below the neck line. that was when the bike has hardly run for 3 kms in reserve.. that means the total petrol was around 18.8 litres with the bike and still it had some space in it for petrol..

      as sarvajit ji pointed out , you can shake the bike or car and fill in more petroll...

      also the sensor cut off works depending upon the depth with with the petrol pump nozzle is inserted in the tank... for instance, if the petrol pump nozzle is not deeply placed then the petrol that can be filled up will be more as the sensor will not get activated.. when the nozzle is fully placed , the sensor gets activated soon and the petrol filling will be less.


      also the atmospheric pressure that you are talking about will be the same if there is petrol inside the vehicle... only if the vehicle runs on base reserve and is about to go dry, the opening up and closing up of tank will work because ,pls do remember that when you open up the tank, the vehicle gets shaken without our knowledge and the petrol is being sent into the fuel pipe

      so any method like reserve to reserve / full tnk to tank/empty to empty has its own problems...so all methods will hold good with some inherent deficiencies...

      this is also my personal observations after almost 15 years of motorcycle riding sir...

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      • Milage Calculation

        pl. see my calculation

        Last Reserve - 1497 km
        Total Petrol - 31.58 L (Rs.1500)
        Less Reserve - 3.1 L

        Petrol used - 28.48 L

        Milage = 1497/28.48 = 52.57

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        • Originally posted by Sarvajit View Post
          You can overfill petrol even in a car-I have had both my cars tanks overflowing.

          Car was just an example. May be your city petrol pumps are not so sensitive why bec you have overflow peroblem i get petrol filled to my car and it stops exactly when the tank is full and i go to shell. Try once pls.....


          The tank capacity is always stated upto the filler cap. If you go on filling, and shake the vehicle a bit, you can easily fill 1-1.5 litres more, without overflowing. I have tried it many a time when going on a long ride/drive. We have filled around 18lts.in my friend's RTR just to check this!

          I will test this once and let you know my experiance. Pls give me some time.

          Right. Thats why the best method to test mileage is with 100ml.can connected to the tank, by asking someone to hold it behind.
          Any other method will have atleast 2-3 kms.error, thats why I take a round figure of 10 lts.so that 2-3kms.doesn't matter much.

          This method is used by mechanics and i think this should work. Even the showroom guys do this.

          This is what I do for my R15:
          1. When the bike comes to reserve, it creates a new tripmeter with F reading 0.0. I try to fill fuel within 2-3 kms. (there is no petrol on-off knob)
          2. When I fill fuel, I reset the tripmeter 1. Fill exactly 10 litres.
          3. The next time the bike comes to reserve, the F meter comes up.
          4. Now I reset tripmeter 2.
          Say now tripmeter 1 says I travelled 428 kms.
          I need to subtract tripmeter 2 from it (distance taken now to reach petrol pump after coming to reserve), say 3 kms.
          Also I need to subtract the distance to fuel station taken when I first filled petrol, say 2 kms.
          Now this leaves me with 423 kms./10 litres, which is 42.3 kmpl.
          The method will work for any amount of fuel IMO.

          In case of my older carburetted bike Fiero F2, I follow the same, but since there is no indication that the bike is coming to reserve, I need to ride it till it stops, then turn the fuel knob to reserve position&of course reset the single tripmeter it has.
          2-3 kms.before the bikes comes to reserve, it starts jerking, so I know its time for reserve. But I still ride it till it stops.
          Your inputs please.

          At the end, it is not WHO is correct it is WHAT is correct. Pls do not feel affended for any of my points as we are just discussing here so that others would get good information
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          2 Bajaj CT 100
          2 Apache 150
          1 Apache RTR
          1 Hero Honda Hunk
          1 Yamaha RX 135
          1 Yamaha RX 135 5 Speed

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          • Ya, just put a stop to this now. All the methods of calculating mileage are discussed to death already. I can suggest number of methods involving tedious rituals (one even includes sacrificing a virgin chicken ). There will be no end.

            To each his best! Just make sure your mileage stays above 50, that's all, no matter what method you prefer.

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            • Originally posted by Sarvajit View Post

              also the atmospheric pressure that you are talking about will be the same if there is petrol inside the vehicle... only if the vehicle runs on base reserve and is about to go dry, the opening up and closing up of tank will work because ,pls do remember that when you open up the tank, the vehicle gets shaken without our knowledge and the petrol is being sent into the fuel pipe

              One Question out of my curiosity. When the petrol comes to reserve from ON, how will you get petrol been sent to pipe whether you shake or stir? Sorry pls explain me.

              this is also my personal observations after almost 15 years of motorcycle riding sir...
              I Respect your experience.
              3 Bullet 350cc
              2 Bullet 500cc
              2 Bajaj CT 100
              2 Apache 150
              1 Apache RTR
              1 Hero Honda Hunk
              1 Yamaha RX 135
              1 Yamaha RX 135 5 Speed

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              • Originally posted by animeher View Post
                Ya, just put a stop to this now. All the methods of calculating mileage are discussed to death already. I can suggest number of methods involving tedious rituals (one even includes sacrificing a virgin chicken ). There will be no end.

                To each his best! Just make sure your mileage stays above 50, that's all, no matter what method you prefer.
                i am yet to get my GS 150 R, i will get my New Bike this Friday. So i can give EXACT info once the bike is in my hands. Hope to see good mileage and i will try all 3 methods.
                3 Bullet 350cc
                2 Bullet 500cc
                2 Bajaj CT 100
                2 Apache 150
                1 Apache RTR
                1 Hero Honda Hunk
                1 Yamaha RX 135
                1 Yamaha RX 135 5 Speed

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                • Originally posted by Bullet500 View Post
                  i am yet to get my GS 150 R, i will get my New Bike this Friday. So i can give EXACT info once the bike is in my hands. Hope to see good mileage and i will try all 3 methods.
                  Yes, there is nothing to get offended. The most precise method is the one followed by the showroom guys (100 ml.can method). Since we cannot do that exactly, we have to devise various methods to approximately arrive at the mileage.

                  AFA the full tank method goes, I avoid it since we can fill even more than the quantity, if we go beyond the filler cap (neck)
                  The sensors are not present in the vehicle fuel tank, it is an auto cut off mechanism in the nozzle of the fuel pump. As mentioned by dhiwakar, if the fuel pump nozzle is well above the bike/car's fuel tank, the sensor will not actuate.

                  Animeher is right, let us put a stop to this, since mileage discussion should be kept aside from Ownership thread, since there is a separate mileage calculation thread for it.
                  Btw, congrats on your decision&wish you have a very happy&long ownership experience!
                  Quench my thirst with gasoline!

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                  • Air intake filter

                    Hi folks,

                    Is there any possibility of changing the air intake filter of the carburetor to increase mileage. One of my friend did this for his unicorn and he's now claiming that the mileage has improved. The engine's sound has also changed and not to mention the pickup too has improved.

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                    • Originally posted by imjoshee View Post
                      the GOOD NEWS is they have changed the regulator to a more powerful one to get a brighter headlamp & I could notice the change while I was riding it.
                      Vishal
                      My bike is ready fro servicing, and will be taking delivery tonight. But the service guys didn't have any idea about the regulator being new one. Also, he said they usually receive mail from Suzuki regarding such updates.

                      Anyway, I have disconnected the position bulbs and put Osram Silverstar 55/60W. Will see the difference today.

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                      • Originally posted by aspt View Post
                        Hi folks,

                        Is there any possibility of changing the air intake filter of the carburetor to increase mileage. One of my friend did this for his unicorn and he's now claiming that the mileage has improved. The engine's sound has also changed and not to mention the pickup too has improved.
                        Its not possible to increase both pickup and mileage
                        if u install a k&n filter without changing anything else your mileage increases, but pick up reduces and it can cause knocking problems
                        K&n filter+upjetting means better pick up with reduced mileage.
                        You have to choose what you want more, power or mileage.

                        and regarding the NVH, i rode for few km without helmet today.
                        the sound from engine at 4k(or above 3.5) was really horrible.
                        i cant believe the SC people said the engine is ok when i told them to check it. i think the silencer must be loose or something.

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                        • I have taken my bike upto 7000 RPM. No sound. Silky Smooth. Just completed 8000 KMS Service. I have a mini race track next to my place belonging to Air Force. So when ever I am in mood for race, I use this track. I managed to touch 105 before I ran out of the road. Even when the bike was climbing speed, the engine was siliky smooth.

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                          • Originally posted by sarvodaya View Post
                            I have taken my bike upto 7000 RPM. No sound. Silky Smooth. Just completed 8000 KMS Service. I have a mini race track next to my place belonging to Air Force. So when ever I am in mood for race, I use this track. I managed to touch 105 before I ran out of the road. Even when the bike was climbing speed, the engine was siliky smooth.
                            which engine oil do you use ??
                            i have to ride someone else's gs to actually get a comparison of how bad or good my bike is. may be i'll go for another test ride n see.

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                            • Originally posted by sarvodaya View Post
                              I have taken my bike upto 7000 RPM. No sound. Silky Smooth. Just completed 8000 KMS Service. I have a mini race track next to my place belonging to Air Force. So when ever I am in mood for race, I use this track. I managed to touch 105 before I ran out of the road. Even when the bike was climbing speed, the engine was siliky smooth.
                              Gr8 to hear about that...! I crossed 100 Kmph at 900Kms in the odo ... At that point of time the sound was horrible. Even when i cross 6K rpm, the engine grunting sound comes.... but now Its is slowly improving... ... I think since you have touched 8K on the ODO, the engine is smooth... Now my odo reads ~5700... and I feel the difference.

                              Guys.. I think there is no need to change the engine oil to get more smoothness... As time passes by and probably when you cross 10K in the odo, things should be good.

                              BTW vishal.. I have no idea about what a regulator is ... Can you please upload some pics and explain. May be I'm so dumb not knowing this also; but still its never late to learn. I'll enquire the SC about it if they have received the new lot.

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                              • Originally posted by thefalcon View Post
                                which engine oil do you use ??
                                i have to ride someone else's gs to actually get a comparison of how bad or good my bike is. may be i'll go for another test ride n see.
                                Sure we can. Give me a day or two. I will let you known when we can meet. I stay near Jallahalli. I checked my service bill. It is written OIL ACTIVE 4T (must be castrol). Initially the engine was rough. As I logged KMS it is becoming smoother and smoother. I think the first 1,500 KMS are important. Riding the bike smoothly, braking smoothly without revving too much in these 1,500 KMS ensures that the engine will get smoother as the KMS are logged

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