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  • Hello guys its been long time since i have come to see the forum..been so busy.. i can still see so many veteran GSpians helping out others. Anup,maestro, Mach50,madhu all king of the GS, How r u guys?

    Well even though i am not a regular i try to keep some tabs anyway did my 9th service today clocking 18000kms till now its been 10 months since i bought the GS and i still adore it.

    well some small things i have seen Engine noise has increased but that is still fine, Mileage has not been bad for me i am still getting 50-54 while driving in Highways and all the more Delhi has cheaper petrol than bangalore and chennai so happy about it :P.

    Some advice need from the experienced people around i was thinking of shifting to Semi-Synth or Full Synth Engine oil since my baby has done fair bit of riding now.

    So Which Engine u guys recommend should i go for.? Currently i am using GULF PRIDE 4T plus which i would recommend for anyone looking for Mineral oil it lasts 3k kms very easily.

    So guys really need some help here...Sunday today so have time to get the oil in the evening.


    p.s Service centers have become worst did the service today without a Wash and also even a billing guy was not there.

    Any way Today;s Total Cost of Service = Rs 0

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    • Originally posted by vishnukmd View Post
      Joe, it is dangerous. The back brake – disc or drum - of any bike is not enough to stop the bike safely as it is designed to give less braking so as to avoid fatal skidding.
      Back brake is to control or keep the bike stable when you apply the front brake vigorously; not to stop the bike.
      You may perhaps be able to stop using the rear brake alone in pre-planned stopping but not in hazardous situations. So, always keep 2 or more of your right hand fingers on the brake lever, ready to brake. 60, 70 or 80 kmh is not a ‘not higher’ speed as you claim.
      hmm, maybe its because of my noob level skills but every time I've gone for the front brake in a panic the bike has skidded even with the rear brake engaged in the last couple of times, and even though I was able to control the bike it really isn't a good feeling. I keep my foot over the pedal all the time so by the time my fingers reach for the front brake by reflex the rear brakes are already pressed so I don't get where I am going wrong

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      • Does full tank petrol affect the top speed ? Today i was riding in Nice road , my bike was struggling to do even 100kmph.

        Also, when i continously accelerate above 80kmph, i feel sudden pauses like as if the petrol flow has stopped to the engine. Why does this happen.
        You cannot change your future, but, you can change your habits, and surely your habits will change your future - Dr Abdul Kalam

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        • Originally posted by Satellite.kid View Post
          Anupdas, in all of "these" bikes, rear brake has actually proven to be a good enough feature that one shouldn't need to think of a drum brake as an option on them, except may be Dazzler. Having said that, I have ridden my friend's dazzler numerous times and I was mighty impressed by the rear brake performance and how it doesn't lock the rear wheel unless the force applied is too much. May be my braking skills are good enough.

          Anyways, unless we experience some serious over braking on these bikes due to the presence of disc at rear, I guess we have nothing to complain about

          I second you on disc brakes at rear. Disc brakes are definitely better than drums at rear. really helpful under heavy breaking and they reduce breaking distance considerably. If used sensibly they won't even lock-up..at least that's my experience with R15 & RTR 180.

          Coming back to GS, so do the modes really work?! It doesn't really matter to me, but it'll be interesting to know! But I am still surprised that why didn't Suzuki advertise them at all in the ads or on the website if the modes actually change the fuel flow!
          I never felt any difference after changing modes in engine behaviour. it still sounds the same...have managed top end of 115 Kmph max...couldn't go beyond cos road ended into a curve


          Originally posted by chiron View Post
          hmm, maybe its because of my noob level skills but every time I've gone for the front brake in a panic the bike has skidded even with the rear brake engaged in the last couple of times, and even though I was able to control the bike it really isn't a good feeling. I keep my foot over the pedal all the time so by the time my fingers reach for the front brake by reflex the rear brakes are already pressed so I don't get where I am going wrong
          dude you should brake front first..and use rear to balance the braking.
          when we brake, speeding weight is transferred to front wheel...and hence braking effort required is greater than the rear wheel. Someone might ask if there is increase in weight then it should help in lowering speed due to additional weight...but that is speeding weight and by principle of kinetic energy=MV^2; rather than stopping, it pushes the bike more towards direction of motion. thats the reason we need more braking effort in front.


          Updates on my GS after riding it for almost 3800 Km.
          did 2nd service last week:

          Hate these things:
          1. rear wheel was not tightened and had lateral movement. serious issue as it could have resulted in accident.
          2. Disc pads and front wheels were making noise...mech lubricated front axle, scrapped pads and fitted them...now disc brake has lost it's bite..and there is oil on disc.
          3. there are vibrations above 6K rpm, and every timne i tel them about it...first answer i get is "Sir, air pressure in tyres may be low"
          4. Gears are still not "BUTTER", but acceptable than earlier condition.
          5. Clutch has become very hard...i guess that might be causing notchy shift.
          6. Bike jas rough engine note after getting hot. It has that characteristic gadgad noise..and...i donno but rather two strokish firing..it's not like honda engines..but rather rorty...
          7. rear tire: IT SUCKS in water, gravel & mud.

          Love it:
          1. Torque....loads of it: kasara ghat in 5th and 6th gear most of the time.
          2. stability in corners and at high speeds

          Last tankful to tankful i got FE of 41.1 Kmpl, riding most of the time above 85, travelling through ghats, afternoon time (for 250km), on the way back riding in the afternoon & night for 270 km mostly above 85-90kmph...touching 115, heavy braking...sudden accelerating and with pillion and some luggage.
          AND some more riding in city....
          Is this FE good?? I was assuming 45+ but got little less...

          Comments on all the above things most welcome.
          Last edited by mazaid53; 05-01-2011, 07:53 PM.
          anything that can go wrong will surely go wrong at the wrong time and the wrong place

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          • @mazaid 53 i can answer few of ur queries

            for the Disc pad noise it is nothing but dust get settled use Water pressure to remove the dust the noise will be gone.

            For the Gears and Clutch i think just get a local mechanic i would say they will rectify it by just paying Rs20 atleast works for me till now.

            For the Engine sound of Tak tak well i am still clueless people say it is tappet noise and for past 8 months 3 times tappet adjustments for me and still the sound persists and i am used to it and above all Studds Rhyno is very effective helmet No noises from outside :P.

            For the Rear tires slipping i agree with u they are not the best in Rainy season i have had a slip myself but one thing is for sure i learned that never to use the Rear breaks too much.


            Well u can call them some views rather than help but anyways just passing what i know

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            • Originally posted by adi231189 View Post
              @mazaid 53 i can answer few of ur queries

              for the Disc pad noise it is nothing but dust get settled use Water pressure to remove the dust the noise will be gone.
              mate pls go through my previous post, noise is not my problem...its about brake bite after cleaning pads and oil on disc & pads.

              For the Gears and Clutch i think just get a local mechanic i would say they will rectify it by just paying Rs20 atleast works for me till now.
              I have done this..but he also told me that clutch is very hard compared to other bikes and no adjustment is required. better tell Suzuki people to check it.

              For the Engine sound of Tak tak well i am still clueless people say it is tappet noise and for past 8 months 3 times tappet adjustments for me and still the sound persists and i am used to it and above all Studds Rhyno is very effective helmet No noises from outside :P.


              even I use LS2, but it makes me hear all the noises from bike
              It's definately not tappet sound...this sound is somewhere near crank n i'm clueless about it. MACH50 has answered some pages back, that it's the long stroke of these engines causing light hammering or tak-tak noise.


              For the Rear tires slipping i agree with u they are not the best in Rainy season i have had a slip myself but one thing is for sure i learned that never to use the Rear breaks too much.


              Well u can call them some views rather than help but anyways just passing what i know
              my replies in bold.
              anything that can go wrong will surely go wrong at the wrong time and the wrong place

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              • Originally posted by gs150r View Post
                Does full tank petrol affect the top speed ? Today i was riding in Nice road , my bike was struggling to do even 100kmph.

                Also, when i continously accelerate above 80kmph, i feel sudden pauses like as if the petrol flow has stopped to the engine. Why does this happen.
                Yes Full tank can affect top speed but in your case it might be some problem with the carburator
                Nothing feels better than to gear up and burn some rubber ! ! !

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                • Originally posted by pritish View Post
                  Yes Full tank can affect top speed but in your case it might be some problem with the carburator
                  dunno the max top speed of my bike but hav reached 115 Kph with full tank (giv or take 1 litre of fuel) so there must be some other prob...

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                  • Originally posted by nads View Post
                    dunno the max top speed of my bike but hav reached 115 Kph with full tank (giv or take 1 litre of fuel) so there must be some other prob...
                    there are many factors that can contribute to top speed,wind speed,direction,uphill or downhill,weight of the rider...

                    Full tank can affect top speed,because the weight of the bike increases.
                    but in his case as it he is feeling the jerk after 80kph,so i think there could a problem at the carb.
                    Nothing feels better than to gear up and burn some rubber ! ! !

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                    • Originally posted by chiron View Post
                      hmm, maybe its because of my noob level skills but every time I've gone for the front brake in a panic the bike has skidded even with the rear brake engaged in the last couple of times, and even though I was able to control the bike it really isn't a good feeling. I keep my foot over the pedal all the time so by the time my fingers reach for the front brake by reflex the rear brakes are already pressed so I don't get where I am going wrong
                      This skidding was due to the presence of sand or oily substances in the road. Otherwise our bike will not skid.

                      Braking is not for good feeling but to stop the bike. The reflexive action of the muscles of all the animals including us is shrinking, not stretching or expanding. So, when you face a critique instance, the command from your brain to your muscles is to firmly hold what you have in your hand or more correctly, to shrink all you muscles and protect your body. This is why we are advised to not touch the live or suspected to be live wires or anything like that with the inner part of our finger or palm. This reflex is not acquired but developed through millions of years and we cannot change it.

                      Another example is our inability (or forgetting as usually we call) to release the accelerator when we are in panic conditions. Facing an accident and braking are not pre-calculated and we will not get time to decide what to do or we may not know what we are doing. The latest example is Anup. He was driving carefully but was unable to do anything.



                      Originally posted by gs150r View Post
                      Does full tank petrol affect the top speed ? Today i was riding in Nice road , my bike was struggling to do even 100kmph.

                      Also, when i continously accelerate above 80kmph, i feel sudden pauses like as if the petrol flow has stopped to the engine. Why does this happen.



                      The jerking is a topic we have discussed many times. Check the air vent of the tank, clean the fuel supply line from the tank to the carburetor, clean the fuel tank and the mesh in it and finally, and if necessary, open and clean the carburetor.

                      Besides, check the carburetor plug adapter/cap to ensure that it is not loose or shorting.

                      Originally posted by mazaid53 View Post
                      Hate these things:
                      1. rear wheel was not tightened and had lateral movement. serious issue as it could have resulted in accident.
                      2. Disc pads and front wheels were making noise...mech lubricated front axle, scrapped pads and fitted them...now disc brake has lost it's bite..and there is oil on disc.
                      3. there are vibrations above 6K rpm, and every timne i tel them about it...first answer i get is "Sir, air pressure in tyres may be low"
                      4. Gears are still not "BUTTER", but acceptable than earlier condition.
                      5. Clutch has become very hard...i guess that might be causing notchy shift.
                      6. Bike jas rough engine note after getting hot. It has that characteristic gadgad noise..and...i donno but rather two strokish firing..it's not like honda engines..but rather rorty...
                      7. rear tire: IT SUCKS in water, gravel & mud.

                      Comments on all the above things most welcome.

                      You are like the Doctors: diagnosing others illness and treating them and get treated themselves by other Doctors; advising others and seeking advise at the same time.

                      These are my opinions about your problems:







                      5. Re-adjust the clutch if you have already adjusted it. Anyhow, it is never as soft to handle as some other soft things.

                      6. As you said, it is not a Honda engine and hence we cannot expect the same noise from it. The noise you mentioned when the engine is hot and when it is riding in high speed is due to some other reasons and cannot be diminished. Neglect it or as adi231189 advised, use a soundproof helmet.

                      7. Almost all the tyres are of the same nature. It is because the water, gravel and mud are slippery and our tyres are made of hard compound rubber and zapper y is comparatively better. I think a single tyre which can be used in wet, dry, gravelly and muddy roads are not available. But soft compound tyres from Michelin or Pirelli are better, safer ones but are costly and having lesser life.

                      Full tank to full tank or reserve to reserve are not reliable methods to check the mileage. To know it correctly, please check it with the apparatus available in the sc.

                      There is no absolute perfection in the universe; only relative. So is our bike. Try to neglect nano problems.

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                      • Its just one day and the thread is alive again...........
                        Spent todays day at Good Samaritan Mission with under priviledged children.....had lotsa fun with them, saw RoBOt yes the Rajni movie as it was their demand.....shared cake chocolates pencils drawingbooks colours rubbers and also helped them financially.......it was indeed a great effort from Mumbai xBhp.....

                        Originally posted by Satellite.kid View Post

                        Coming back to GS, so do the modes really work?! It doesn't really matter to me, but it'll be interesting to know! But I am still surprised that why didn't Suzuki advertise them at all in the ads or on the website if the modes actually change the fuel flow!
                        they dont change the fuel flow and stuff but dont know why theres still some noticable free rev range in those modes........the bike tends to run smoother in power mode at higher Rpms....now can any body explain this why?

                        and suzuki never bothered to market GS hence you can expect them to not tell many factors.......for example the Xtp technology....or the Sacs technology.......




                        Originally posted by adi231189 View Post
                        Hello guys its been long time since i have come to see the forum..been so busy.. i can still see so many veteran GSpians helping out others. Anup,maestro, Mach50,madhu all king of the GS, How r u guys?

                        Well even though i am not a regular i try to keep some tabs anyway did my 9th service today clocking 18000kms till now its been 10 months since i bought the GS and i still adore it.

                        well some small things i have seen Engine noise has increased but that is still fine, Mileage has not been bad for me i am still getting 50-54 while driving in Highways and all the more Delhi has cheaper petrol than bangalore and chennai so happy about it :P.

                        Some advice need from the experienced people around i was thinking of shifting to Semi-Synth or Full Synth Engine oil since my baby has done fair bit of riding now.

                        So Which Engine u guys recommend should i go for.? Currently i am using GULF PRIDE 4T plus which i would recommend for anyone looking for Mineral oil it lasts 3k kms very easily.

                        So guys really need some help here...Sunday today so have time to get the oil in the evening.


                        p.s Service centers have become worst did the service today without a Wash and also even a billing guy was not there.

                        Any way Today;s Total Cost of Service = Rs 0
                        welcome back Bro.........i envy you a lot........
                        it will be better if you stick to motul mineral...rather than going for a semi/full synth(unless you have heavy pockets...)motul mineral nearly 200 bucks=1500kms whereas motul full synth 800bucks=3500kms....

                        Originally posted by chiron View Post
                        hmm, maybe its because of my noob level skills but every time I've gone for the front brake in a panic the bike has skidded even with the rear brake engaged in the last couple of times, and even though I was able to control the bike it really isn't a good feeling. I keep my foot over the pedal all the time so by the time my fingers reach for the front brake by reflex the rear brakes are already pressed so I don't get where I am going wrong
                        i have never experienced that........under panic breaking the rear wheel tends to get locked up....but the front just screeches.......unless the friction is too less....i always lock the rear wheel and, slide a little in front and the bike to the left causing the bike to skid but under control...... thats the most effective way i found on GS under extreme panic breaking(speeds <50kmph)....
                        Originally posted by gs150r View Post
                        Does full tank petrol affect the top speed ? Today i was riding in Nice road , my bike was struggling to do even 100kmph.

                        Also, when i continously accelerate above 80kmph, i feel sudden pauses like as if the petrol flow has stopped to the engine. Why does this happen.
                        the only thing is your bikes weight increases and nothing else......similar cases happened with me.......then i got the carb and the vent at the head of the pertol tank cleaned and now its gone.....

                        Originally posted by mazaid53 View Post
                        I never felt any difference after changing modes in engine behaviour. it still sounds the same...have managed top end of 115 Kmph max...couldn't go beyond cos road ended into a curve



                        dude you should brake front first..and use rear to balance the braking.
                        when we brake, speeding weight is transferred to front wheel...and hence braking effort required is greater than the rear wheel. Someone might ask if there is increase in weight then it should help in lowering speed due to additional weight...but that is speeding weight and by principle of kinetic energy=MV^2; rather than stopping, it pushes the bike more towards direction of motion. thats the reason we need more braking effort in front.


                        Updates on my GS after riding it for almost 3800 Km.
                        did 2nd service last week:

                        Hate these things:
                        1. rear wheel was not tightened and had lateral movement. serious issue as it could have resulted in accident.
                        2. Disc pads and front wheels were making noise...mech lubricated front axle, scrapped pads and fitted them...now disc brake has lost it's bite..and there is oil on disc.
                        3. there are vibrations above 6K rpm, and every timne i tel them about it...first answer i get is "Sir, air pressure in tyres may be low"
                        4. Gears are still not "BUTTER", but acceptable than earlier condition.
                        5. Clutch has become very hard...i guess that might be causing notchy shift.
                        6. Bike jas rough engine note after getting hot. It has that characteristic gadgad noise..and...i donno but rather two strokish firing..it's not like honda engines..but rather rorty...
                        7. rear tire: IT SUCKS in water, gravel & mud.

                        Love it:
                        1. Torque....loads of it: kasara ghat in 5th and 6th gear most of the time.
                        2. stability in corners and at high speeds

                        Last tankful to tankful i got FE of 41.1 Kmpl, riding most of the time above 85, travelling through ghats, afternoon time (for 250km), on the way back riding in the afternoon & night for 270 km mostly above 85-90kmph...touching 115, heavy braking...sudden accelerating and with pillion and some luggage.
                        AND some more riding in city....
                        Is this FE good?? I was assuming 45+ but got little less...

                        Comments on all the above things most welcome.
                        awesome explaination regarding braking.......well riding constant above 110 will give you that kindof efficiency....you can expect something better under the conditions mentioned.......and NH3 is the heaven for bikers from shahapur onwards.....you feel the rush in your body when you easily cruise by the cars(zens/omni/800 type ones) with 100kmph on speedo....and when they look at their speedo they think was it a superbyk that just whizzed by me!!!!
                        @all you can even find tips for panic breaking in xbhp magazine..

                        @vishnu....I like it!!!!(you know what...)
                        Last edited by Maestro; 05-02-2011, 12:08 AM.
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                        • My bike has now got itself a new disease , it always hits reserve when it is ridden at high speed and the fuel tank has approximately 7 litres of fuel(combining the main and reserve) this is a new ailment.Any suggestions from anyone ???
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                          • @maestro thanks my friend but really Motul is not working for me don't know why used it last time around 1200-1500 kms and it goes completely black last time i removed it at 1800 kms and mechanic was like sir kya hey yeh very bad and also i ride about 2k kms for sure in a month and for me a oil should go for atleast 2k to 2.5k since it is much convenient for me to change.

                            So u telling me to Stick to Gulf mineral then?

                            Any idea about how Shell Advance is for GS ?

                            p.s On Greater noida expressway i have hit a Topwhack of 123km/hr on Eco mode and the resistance was less and this speed there were literally no vibrations and i was in love

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                            • Originally posted by Maestro View Post
                              Spent todays day at Good Samaritan Mission with under priviledged children.....had lotsa fun with them, saw RoBOt yes the Rajni movie as it was their demand.....shared cake chocolates pencils drawingbooks colours rubbers. it was indeed a great effort from Mumbai xBhp...
                              The word to be used here is not congratulations but something else from the depth of the heart. What you did is not charity; they, the children deserve it as their right.
                              And thanks.

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                              • @mach bro
                                I have the same problem when the bike can go approx 25kms before hitting reserve and if ridden at high speeds.....whenever i get into these kind of situations i generally put the knob to reserve for approx 5-10 secs/1km then return it to on position!!!!

                                Originally posted by adi231189 View Post
                                @maestro thanks my friend but really Motul is not working for me don't know why used it last time around 1200-1500 kms and it goes completely black last time i removed it at 1800 kms and mechanic was like sir kya hey yeh very bad and also i ride about 2k kms for sure in a month and for me a oil should go for atleast 2k to 2.5k since it is much convenient for me to change.

                                So u telling me to Stick to Gulf mineral then?

                                Any idea about how Shell Advance is for GS ?

                                p.s On Greater noida expressway i have hit a Topwhack of 123km/hr on Eco mode and the resistance was less and this speed there were literally no vibrations and i was in love
                                well the oils colour doesnt determine the quality of oil.....the green colour of motul full synth gets brown black within first 300 kms itself......what matters is the viscosity.....make sure whenever you start your ride.....rev to about 3k four to five tmes before making a move and then stick below 4.5 k in order to feel the smoothness of engine.....
                                regarding shell i have no idea....

                                A WORD OF CAUTION:Those speeds are really high speeds and are meant to be achieved only by wearing proper riding gears.........you even wont know when you would be fyling in th air even if in case just a small pebble comes underneath the tyres...........

                                expressways are meant to be traveled at those speeds aye!!!!
                                Last edited by Maestro; 05-02-2011, 01:08 AM.
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