I am sure that the purpose of modes "PWR" "ECO" and blank aka GOD mode are true and that plays role in pickup and performance.

earlier in the forum we discussed about it a lot and our gspian sivakumar shown me a way to find it

Animihr, anupdas are aware of it

Do the following

1. Take a marker set your bike to eco mode switch it on start it and give little bit throttle and mark the throttle position with the marker by drawing a line that crosses the throttle and the the stable handle bar area next to it and do remember to note down the RPM at that position

Repeat the same step on PWR and the so called GOD mode now you will find a diffrence in rpm

So please check it and let all know

The above method was told by shivakumar and it works in my bike

If you call this as stupid idea or stupidity I don't bother of being a stupid in this regard.

This is the same question Anupdas asked me a few months ago. We can change the mode while the engine is running at any rpm but the bike is not, but the tachometer will be disconnected and connected again.

[/QUOTE] what has conquering your fears on a new moon night in a graveyard got to do with aghoris?[/QUOTE]

What I have asked is to spend a NO MOON night in a grave yard; all alone, not with aghoras, even though some well known persons are/were members of this sect. Indian mysticism or Indian religious traditions is a very hard nut, somewhat impossible to break.

Yes. More than what our blinking indicator is doing in night.

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Mach50, Rama, Maestro and SparKot,

The eco-power indicators of the previous two wheelers were connected to the front hub, together with speedometer cable; not to the engine. That means the speed was counted; not the engine rpm.

Since this idea is not yours, how can somebody call you a stupid, even in case the idea is stupid?

Actually words spoken seems a lot less when expressed in writing.

@mach50: Thats a real shame man. If I get my hands on some expendable income, it'll be the second thing I'll do.

@vishnu: Youre right man......we can change modes while engine is idling.....but not while bike is running. So, thats still not proof enough to say the modes are just blinking lights. Lets wait for what you are planning to show.

@maestro: Bro, looks like our counter arguements are squashed by this new discovery ^^^^. But that doesnt mean our stand is false.

Dual disc brakes ???

1)so does dual disc brakes cause skidding ?
2) during monsoons when the road is slippery does disc dual brakes can cause the bike to skid ?
i booked my blue gs but it is not available so waiting for the new suzuki 150 cc bike heard it may have rear disc brake at an option so here in mumbai it rains also in the south & also WB ..guys that is the reason i asked u this questions...so is it better to have a front disc & rear drum brake or both discs ae better in any road condition ? because i am sure that dual disc brakes are very good on normal roads !

please enlighten me..& comments re always welcome !!

Waiting for my babe please give latest info on the new bike...

Guyz instead of fighting cnt we just ask the real meaning of these 3 modes from suzuki gurgaon engineers ? just send the queries on the site !

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What will be the first one?

There are no three mdes; only two. Asking Suzuki engineers is a good idea as their's is the final word.

Does Suzuki employees respond officially about the details... We've(being owners of GS) right to information..

I guess an overwhelming emails inquiring about it might compel them to respond.

Even better, if someone knows a Suzuki-India emp in person..

I did inquire about modes to SC emp while booking, his explanation was non-sense(I don't even remember it)...

@ vishnu,

Asking suzuki experts is a best idea,

We can't test the mode difference in idle as it is somewhat linked to the TPS.

Let's see what suzuki experts says

Hii Guys, it seems like our discussion over the modes is not yet concluded. I know its not logical to think that a mere 150cc would be equipped with different ignition mappings for different modes. But for some reason power mode feels a little more responsive than eco mode.

@ Vulcan

Its always better to have a brake powerful enough to stop bike from the speed it is expected to be run. Rear brake has a very little role in decelerating compared to front brake. If you consider a liter class bike, it has two 13" inch disc brake with four caliper each. But its rear brake is 8.7 inch single disc with a single caliper. The braking power ratio of front to rear must be at least 10:1 (considering the difference in diameter of discs and number of caliper per disc)

Now if you consider Pulsar 220, it has 10.2 inch single disc with twin caliper and single 9 inch rear disc with single caliper here the brakes might have a ratio 3:1. The front disc braking force to rear brake ratio is heavily imbalanced in Pulsar 220, the same is the case for P180, Apaches, Karizma, Dazzler and many others with dual disc brakes.

This is a typical marketing strategy, cramming a bike with gadgets that it really don't need. In the above cases there is a high chance to lock rear wheel if you apply both brakes simultaneously. Earlier self start was optional, then it became stock. Similarly spoke wheels to alloy wheels, now disc brakes for both rear and front. Manufactures will come up with different kind of upgrades to grab the attention of potential customers.

Now to conclude, do a 150cc or a 200 cc require rear disc brake for proper functionality, my opinion is NO. Even if they provide one, the manufacturer provide them with a soft bite to reduce the lock ups. But in a panic situation a rider may stamp the rear brake and cause lock up which leads to an accident that could have been avoided if not a disc brake. So why buy a Dog which bites its own master ???

Anupdas: It's funny reading your above comments where you've very easily concluded that front/rear brake ratio in bikes like P220, P180, Apaches, Karizma and Dazzler is "heavily" imbalanced!!! Are you even aware that out of the above, P220, Apache RTRs, Karizma and Dazzler are among the bikes that stay most stable under heavy braking? GS doesn't even come close. Seriously...!! Forget the numbers, real life experiences are the best way to tell how a bike behaves under braking!!