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**scilent killer** · 11-10-2009, 06:25 PM

Originally posted by bala_racing View Post

The Eco mode and Power mode are only a throttle switch

!. When u rip the throttle more the power mode lights up.

Absolutely it is no way connected to engine. Switch-off the engine and turn ur throttle fully, you can see the switches working

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I've tried it in my TVS Victor.

bro the light is only to tell you if are putting your throttle for an economy mode or power ride....

**animeher** · 11-10-2009, 06:46 PM

Throttle switch?! I thought it would be connected to RPMs, as I am sure 4.5k RPM will come up at different throttle positions in diff gears. My old bike Caliber 115 had this RPM linked tachometer needle, which would glow green in 3.5 to 4.5k rpm range, and red otherwise. The mode indicator seems similar to that.

**bala_racing** · 11-10-2009, 06:59 PM

Originally posted by animeher View Post

Throttle switch?! I thought it would be connected to RPMs, as I am sure 4.5k RPM will come up at different throttle positions in diff gears. My old bike Caliber 115 had this RPM linked tachometer needle, which would glow green in 3.5 to 4.5k rpm range, and red otherwise. The mode indicator seems similar to that.

Yes, its only a switch.
BTW, an engine RPM depends only on the throttle opening. So, 4.5k RPM will come at only one throttle position. It is no way connected to the gears.

**Andante** · 11-10-2009, 07:05 PM

Originally posted by bala_racing View Post

Yes, its only a switch.
BTW, an engine RPM depends only on the throttle opening. So, 4.5k RPM will come at only one throttle position. It is no way connected to the gears.

If 4.5K RPM is only at one throttle opening then what about: Uphill driving, Downhill driving, wind coming from the back or front?

The thing to try on an actual GS150 is to turn off the engine, put the switch in eco mode and open the throttle gradually. If the light comes on it's a switch on the throttle, else it's an indication depending on the engine RPM. Easy enough to try.

Judging features on the GS150 by looking at a different bike from a different brand is not likely to be the right thing to do. Even if you might occasionally be right.

**bala_racing** · 11-10-2009, 07:16 PM

Originally posted by Andante View Post

If 4.5K RPM is only at one throttle opening then what about: Uphill driving, Downhill driving, wind coming from the back or front?

The thing to try on an actual GS150 is to turn off the engine, put the switch in eco mode and open the throttle gradually. If the light comes on it's a switch on the throttle, else it's an indication depending on the engine RPM. Easy enough to try.

Judging features on the GS150 by looking at a different bike from a different brand is not likely to be the right thing to do. Even if you might occasionally be right.

I'm not understanding what you are talking about

. Its the speed of the engine or the speed of the bike?

Uphill driving, downhill driving etc., can be done with different gears and revving the engine at required RPM. RPM depends only on the throttle opening and not on gear shifting.
Just put the gear in neutral and apply throttle , you will see the tachometer working.

I agree comparing the features of one bike to another bike may not be correct. But both Suzuki and TVS were brothers once and share many technology together

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**Shadowfax** · 11-10-2009, 08:05 PM

Can we alter the gear ratios by changing sprocket ?

**jawahar** · 11-10-2009, 08:18 PM

Originally posted by bala_racing View Post

The Eco mode and Power mode are only a throttle switch

!. When u rip the throttle more the power mode lights up.

Absolutely it is no way connected to engine. Switch-off the engine and turn ur throttle fully, you can see the switches working

.

I've tried it in my TVS Victor.

Dude its different in GS ! not just a throttle switch as in a TVS

instead it switches based on engine rpm

**bala_racing** · 11-10-2009, 08:24 PM

Originally posted by Shadowfax View Post

Can we alter the gear ratios by changing sprocket ?

yes, the secondary transmission ratios., ie., the primary transmission ratios cannot be altered, but the final drive ratio is altered by this modification.

**bala_racing** · 11-10-2009, 08:24 PM

Originally posted by jawahar View Post

Dude its different in GS ! not just a throttle switch as in a TVS

instead it switches based on engine rpm

If it is so , then its a nice and useful technology

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**thefalcon** · 11-10-2009, 09:31 PM

Thats what i was trying to say all along

i wasnt asking !!!
some people were saying the modes are connected to the engine etc etc(check thru last 10-15 pages),
so i said i tried the 2 modes, and there is no power difference.

and it doesnt work when the engine is off. rpm remains at 0.
the light does come on during the initial self test when u turn the key from off to on.

**animeher** · 11-11-2009, 11:07 AM

Yep. bala_racing started this rumour that it is connected with throttle, and also invented that RPMs are connected to throttle position. Lets put that to rest once and for all. bala_racing, please understand that it is not just throttle position sensor, it is connected to engine RPM, which is again not a rocket science and even previous bikes like Bajaj Caliber 115 which were not at all related to Suzuki had them. So please stop spreading rumour confidently. I am saying this because you didn't put your point as query, but rather as a confident statement.

**bala_racing** · 11-11-2009, 11:28 AM

Originally posted by animeher View Post

Yep. bala_racing started this rumour that it is connected with throttle, and also invented that RPMs are connected to throttle position. Lets put that to rest once and for all. bala_racing, please understand that it is not just throttle position sensor, it is connected to engine RPM, which is again not a rocket science and even previous bikes like Bajaj Caliber 115 which were not at all related to Suzuki had them. So please stop spreading rumour confidently. I am saying this because you didn't put your point as query, but rather as a confident statement.

One minute. I was NOT spreading a rumour on this. I just told my opinion on similar technology on other bikes. If it is not true, excuse me.

**Andante** · 11-11-2009, 11:36 AM

Originally posted by bala_racing View Post

I'm not understanding what you are talking about

. Its the speed of the engine or the speed of the bike?

Uphill driving, downhill driving etc., can be done with different gears and revving the engine at required RPM. RPM depends only on the throttle opening and not on gear shifting.
Just put the gear in neutral and apply throttle , you will see the tachometer working.

I agree comparing the features of one bike to another bike may not be correct. But both Suzuki and TVS were brothers once and share many technology together

.

You are directly relating throttle opening to engine RPM, which is not true. Depending on the load a given throttle opening will have a different rpm associated with it. If you would be able to go ride on a flat road in top gear, you would hit 4.5K rpm at a certain throttle opening. Now if that road would suddenly have an incline, you would slow down, if you keep the throttle at the same opening. You would have to open it further to get to 4.5K rpm again. Even for different gears 4.5K rpm comes at different throttle openings, since the engine load is different in each gear. That's what I'm trying to say.

And to find out if it is a throttle based switch, you can try the following on a real GS150:
* Turn on the ignition without starting the engine.
* Slowly open the throttle
* If the light comes on it's a switch on the throttle else it's based on the engine RPM

**bala_racing** · 11-11-2009, 11:41 AM

Originally posted by Andante View Post

You are directly relating throttle opening to engine RPM, which is not true. Depending on the load a given throttle opening will have a different rpm associated with it. If you would be able to go ride on a flat road in top gear, you would hit 4.5K rpm at a certain throttle opening. Now if that road would suddenly have an incline, you would slow down, if you keep the throttle at the same opening. You would have to open it further to get to 4.5K rpm again. Even for different gears 4.5K rpm comes at different throttle openings, since the engine load is different in each gear. That's what I'm trying to say.

And to find out if it is a throttle based switch, you can try the following on a real GS150:
* Turn on the ignition without starting the engine.
* Slowly open the throttle
* If the light comes on it's a switch on the throttle else it's based on the engine RPM

Yes, got it

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**aspt** · 11-11-2009, 11:51 AM

Hats off to suzuki service.......

Originally posted by donarun View Post

Good for you brother.
I have not received any feedback till now from suzuki ...

But try again then. I got a phone call from Mr. Dipak of suzuki delhi after i posted my complaint in their website. He listened to the issues like rusting and roughness attentively and assured that the rusted parts will be replaced with out any charges and directed me to take the vehicle to the service center at a convenient time. 1 hour after his call i got another call from the manager of the service center. Day before yesterday i got all the rusted parts replaced and the bike is very smooth now.
They're really trying to improve and i appreciate their efforts.

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