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  • #12721
    Originally posted by mazaid53 View Post
    though I have not calculated FE after changing the choke and plug adapter...so far from my observation i see an increase of roughly 10-15kmpl in FE. before these changes it was around 38~40 kmpl. now it surely has gone up.
    my riding is usually in upwards of 6k rpm~ 80kmph.

    there's nothing seriously wrong with your bike...are you running it in lower gears for long time or in heavy traffic areas?? that could be a reason for such FE...but then too its really good for a 150cc to return this kinda mileage.
    Oh thats some awesome figure you achieved ..Since being in bangalore traffic is inevitable, my daily commute adds upto 40+ Kms in which 50% is pure highway with no signals, 30% ring roads with moderate traffic... but another 20% is via gullys(very congested roads) in which one can barely manage 3-4th gear..
    But considering all the factors I felt it should have been 50+..(i know 45+ is still good for a 150cc but you know we are all human )

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    • #12722
      Originally posted by mazaid53 View Post
      waiting for it as i want to convert my bike to full DC setup.

      That is a good decision. It is better to rewind the stator with 18 swg wire, though mine is 19 swg.

      Does anyone know how to cut a larger reflector in the shape of the one used in our bike?
      Last edited by vishnukmd; 09-27-2011, 12:19 AM.

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      • #12723
        Originally posted by mazaid53 View Post
        I got to see service manual for GS...some snaps i took...sorry for image quality as they are from a cellphone camera...

        Did you get it fully?

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        • #12724
          Originally posted by vishnukmd View Post
          That is a good decision. It is better to rewind the stator with 18 swg wire, though mine is 19 swg.

          Does anyone know how to cut a larger reflector in the shape of the one used in our bike?
          why do you want to cut a big reflector to a small one in our bike?? hey i want to go for full DC setup as i am planning to fit 2 auxiliary lamps and a 60/65 watt headlight bulb on my bike. can you pls tell me no. of turns per pole and total length of wire required...a mechanic friend told me conversion will cost 1100 with a new stator, winding and wiring. I have GS's wiring diagram with me...


          Originally posted by ashoka_bnglr View Post
          Oh thats some awesome figure you achieved ..Since being in bangalore traffic is inevitable, my daily commute adds upto 40+ Kms in which 50% is pure highway with no signals, 30% ring roads with moderate traffic... but another 20% is via gullys(very congested roads) in which one can barely manage 3-4th gear..
          But considering all the factors I felt it should have been 50+..(i know 45+ is still good for a 150cc but you know we are all human )
          hey the FE you are getting is quite good...observe your bike's engine note carefully...get familiar with it and then you will know what's different. see my case...i have discovered what was going wrong after 9k km....but i still think in your case FE should go 50+ if factory settings of carb. are untouched. i guess vishnu can elaborate better on getting better FE as he is getting 60+ FE.
          Last edited by mazaid53; 09-27-2011, 12:29 AM.
          anything that can go wrong will surely go wrong at the wrong time and the wrong place

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          • #12725
            Originally posted by vishnukmd View Post
            Did you get it fully?
            I read it...but din't get to photocopy it....i am trying to get it for my reference...lets see if possible....will be helpful for all of us
            anything that can go wrong will surely go wrong at the wrong time and the wrong place

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            • #12726
              [QUOTE=mazaid53;709298]yes in GS it's viscous paper type air filter similar to unicorn, but Suzuki recommends cleaning whereas Honda recommends replacing after 15k km.
              I think there is some difference in material of both filters.
              please see link:
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              Originally posted by vishnukmd View Post
              It is fabric type and the cost is just below Rs. 210/-. Refer to page 6-12 to 6-14 of the user’s manual to know how to clean it.
              I think its a paper air filter like the one seen on Yamaha R15 and FZs.The material of viscous air filter is of different type.Thanks for the link guys.
              Btw will you plz give me the link for the manual?

              Originally posted by Maestro View Post
              oye sahil why do you need GS ka filter.....Apache se khush reh na....and thanks for staying and helping me out that day!!!!!
              Anytime buddy! :-)
              Are m happy wid RTR but I was searching for a stock cylindrical paper air filter of a bike which can be a direct fit in my bike,thats the reason I asked you about it that day.IMO a paper air cleaner is better than the foam one cause the foam filter feels restricted due to its high filtration capacity.No one has tried it before in the apache,lets see if it makes any difference.
              Last edited by Drifty; 09-27-2011, 12:56 AM.

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              • #12727
                Originally posted by mazaid53 View Post
                why do you want to cut a big reflector to a small one in our bike?? hey i want to go for full DC setup as i am planning to fit 2 auxiliary lamps and a 60/65 watt headlight bulb on my bike. can you pls tell me no. of turns per pole and total length of wire required...a mechanic friend told me conversion will cost 1100 with a new stator, winding and wiring. I have GS's wiring diagram with me.

                You mean 55/60 watt headlight bulb and 2 auxiliary bulbs of what wattage? As you can see in the wiring diagram, the normal load is 35 watt headlight plus 20 (10*2) watts indicator bulbs plus 26 watts tail lamps plus 10 watt pilot bulbs plus 5 watts number plate bulb plus horn and speedometer console bulbs.



                Your mechanic is not correct as the minimum expense is this:






                No need to buy new stator as all the works can be finished in a few hours if you are winding the coil yourself.

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                • #12728
                  Originally posted by mazaid53 View Post
                  I read it...but din't get to photocopy it....i am trying to get it for my reference...lets see if possible....will be helpful for all of us



                  A DC conversion alone will not be enough as the reflector is not focusing the light. So I am looking for a suitable reflector to replace the stock one.

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                  • #12729
                    Originally posted by vishnukmd View Post
                    The stator in your bike has 12 poles and can be wound as 3 phase, but I think it is difficult to find out a suitable RR for it. [/FONT][/COLOR]
                    [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]In my opinion, rewinding the stator with 18 swg wire and fitting an Ape RR will be sufficient to use a 100/110 watt headlight bulb.
                    Yeah, Thanks vishnu but i have the circuit diagram for Three phase RR, any way i am not going to try now may after a couple of months later.


                    Source: regulator for motor bike single phase




                    Originally posted by Maestro View Post
                    Please dont BUY it.....as the ballast is prone to get defecctive within first three months of use.....(few of my friends brought it and they were forced to ride in dark at nights!!!!)
                    No my Bro, i am not going for another HID anymore i am quite happy with my current one, just i shared the information here, and As you said, the Life of the ballast is about only three months means, it is too bad to buy.

                    And Thanks for the information
                    Last edited by firegun; 09-27-2011, 01:20 AM.
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                    • #12730
                      Originally posted by Drifty View Post
                      I think its a paper air filter like the one seen on Yamaha R15 and FZs.The material of viscous air filter is of different type.Thanks for the link guys.
                      Btw will you plz give me the link for the manual?



                      Normally it is cleaned by applying compressed air to the fabric side of the filter.

                      And the manual is not available online.

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                      • #12731
                        Originally posted by firegun View Post
                        Yeah, Thanks vishnu but i have the circuit diagram for Three phase RR, any way i am not going to try now may after a couple of months later.

                        But consider how difficult it is to assemble it, fit in a tiny box, fit a proper heat sink etc. If the circuitry is a DYI experiment by any electrical engineering student, it cannot be trusted.

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                        • #12732
                          ^^ this circuit can be easily fitted in a 1.5X1.5 inch place.....

                          Originally posted by nads View Post
                          could u pls elaborate about what u felt different??? was it the nature of the engine or r we talking the handling of the bike....
                          Nature of engine!!!

                          Originally posted by mazaid53 View Post
                          though I have not calculated FE after changing the choke and plug adapter...so far from my observation i see an increase of roughly 10-15kmpl in FE. before these changes it was around 38~40 kmpl. now it surely has gone up.
                          my riding is usually in upwards of 6k rpm~ 80kmph.

                          there's nothing seriously wrong with your bike...are you running it in lower gears for long time or in heavy traffic areas?? that could be a reason for such FE...but then too its really good for a 150cc to return this kinda mileage.

                          @maestro: bro plan a ride for GS ppl soon. waiting for it as i want to convert my bike to full DC setup.
                          Originally posted by mazaid53 View Post
                          why do you want to cut a big reflector to a small one in our bike?? hey i want to go for full DC setup as i am planning to fit 2 auxiliary lamps and a 60/65 watt headlight bulb on my bike. can you pls tell me no. of turns per pole and total length of wire required...a mechanic friend told me conversion will cost 1100 with a new stator, winding and wiring. I have GS's wiring diagram with me...




                          hey the FE you are getting is quite good...observe your bike's engine note carefully...get familiar with it and then you will know what's different. see my case...i have discovered what was going wrong after 9k km....but i still think in your case FE should go 50+ if factory settings of carb. are untouched. i guess vishnu can elaborate better on getting better FE as he is getting 60+ FE.
                          yes......how about this weekend....a nice ride to NH3.....with all GS...
                          and to whom did you went for DC conversion?

                          What about others????
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                          • #12733
                            Originally posted by mazaid53 View Post
                            a mechanic friend told me conversion will cost 1100 with a new stator, winding and wiring.
                            Originally posted by vishnukmd View Post
                            You mean 55/60 watt headlight bulb and 2 auxiliary bulbs of what wattage? As you can see in the wiring diagram, the normal load is 35 watt headlight plus 20 (10*2) watts indicator bulbs plus 26 watts tail lamps plus 10 watt pilot bulbs plus 5 watts number plate bulb plus horn and speedometer console bulbs.



                            Your mechanic is not correct as the minimum expense is this:






                            No need to buy new stator as all the works can be finished in a few hours if you are winding the coil yourself.

                            Plus another Rs. 750/- for 2 headlight relays for the headlight and auxiliary bulbs or Rs. 375/- for headlight relay plus Rs. 130/- for a single relay for auxiliary bulbs. (Bosch/Mico relays).

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                            • #12734
                              [QUOTE=Maestro;709529and to whom did you went for DC conversion? [/QUOTE]


                              If any of you are doing the DC conversion, please do it - at least the rewinding – yourself as there is no way to count the number of turns on each pole or length of the wire used after rewinding.
                              Last edited by vishnukmd; 09-27-2011, 02:09 AM.

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                              • #12735
                                @vishnu & maestro: thanks for the info.
                                hey i din't go anywhere...just asked a mech friend of mine n he asked someone else...the cost he has told is of winding & stator plate...and by wiring he means some wires here n there.
                                Can we have a list of parts and Do's and Don'ts while going full DC?? Also costs of parts...'ll help a lot...
                                hey I think every bike has little bit different engine character...depends on running in, state of tuning and many other things...
                                anything that can go wrong will surely go wrong at the wrong time and the wrong place

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