we know all about joel and his refusal to work on the gs150r resoning, IIRC, that its a lazy machine(to that effect atleast).

So, whats to get excited about? You happen to own an rtr or r15 or cbr?

Its not about any particular machine..What excites me is his passion for engines and whatever he's achieved.
Since there is not much market for gs150r,he might refuse to work on it.Only a handfull of GS150r owners would be willing to go for any performance mods.So that makes all the efforts and development costs incurred for a new platform like GS150r not feasible.Hope you understand.
(No offence to anyone here)

I do not own a rtr or r15 or cbr..

@ manubhat: Nothing to take offense in your post man.

Its probably not so much about cost and demand as it is about a mod friendly platform. As far as Ive seen on these forums, theres a decent demand for p 150\180 upgrades but joel doesnt work on them. From whatever Ive read, he believes they cant take the upgrades and still be reliable. Theres a lot of unicorns, cbz, hunks and what not on the streets, which all seem like worthwhile engines if you look solely from a demand perspective....but joel has only touched the r15, fz and rtr in the 150 cc class.

I remember mach50 bugging joel earlier about working on the gs and getting the reply that its a lazy effort from suzuki. Go bug joel again about working on the gs and post what reply you get.

All I can say is that in my 9500 km on my bike, Ive abused the crap out of it and its still working well. The only problem I have now is that my clutch feels almost lifeless. I suppose its still too early to say the product can stand substantial abuse.

Just yesterday, I took it impromptu onto the highway and the hills for ~3 hours of non stop ripping and redlining...and its still working well. A bit more power in the midrange is what I found it needs....especially riding uphill.


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@ all: My brakes are squishy again. Experiment failed. This time, I'll sit on my mech's neck and make him bleed the brakes properly.

I know what our Gs is capable of...In one of my trips i had covered 1200+kms in 2 days(redlining most of the time)..It performed brilliantly in all types of terrain...
Let me try and see if he agrees to work on GS..

Actually, changing the exhaust is a bad idea. The exhaust length, chamber size, internal pipe bends, etc, is made according to specific calculations for that particular engine. Changing the exhaust size can cause problems like backflow of exhaust gases into cylinder, etc. Also, the muffler is designed to reduce noise, and the stock exhaust conforms to govt norms.

Hot spark plugs feature a ceramic insulator designed with a smaller contact area surrounding the metal electrode to reduce heat transfer and keep the spark plug tip insulated. Cold spark plugs have a larger contact area and transfer more heat away from the spark plug tip.

For many years, auto makers and mechanics recommended hot spark plugs for vehicles that primarily were driven slowly and for short distances, and cold spark plugs for automobiles driven on long distances and sustaining high speed highway use.

Now-a-days, car and motorcycle fuel/air mixtures and cylinder temperatures are electronically maintained within a much narrower range than before, primarily in an effort to minimize emissions.Hence the practice has become a bit obsolete except when it comes to high performance race car engines, boat motors and motorcycle engines. Because these engines generate crazy high heat, they often require colder spark plugs to keep the fuel/air mixture from igniting before the spark fires.

That is why GS150R uses the cooler plug.

Punarvasu may have the correct information regarding this among many others who might answer your query.

Joel started his works on the mother platform of GS150R's engine........that is Fiero's.

No-even the Fiero did not sell like hot cakes, and I doubt how many Fieros did Joel customise for others.

Business and passion are two different things.

Joel's Fiero was built on passion, that is the vehicle which made Joel known to everyone.

Joel's racekits are meant for business and they mean business.

Hence Joel can work on the GS150R only if his passion allows, but he is already invested into a lot more fruitful projects worth revenue.

Even then I wish Manubhat all the luck, if Joel gives the works to GS..........I am definitely going for it.

Yeah i know about his Fiero Project..Its a pocket rocket..

And Thanks for ur wishes.. It will take some time for me to take it to Joel(if he agrees to work on it),since am tight on budget right now.

Try JC Road. I was able to find NGK iridium plugs there...so you probably wont have any probs with nickel plugs. Im also due for a spark plug change. Contemplating a switch to iridium.

No idea about price. probably +- 20 bucks on the champion plug's price.

By the way, how much did it cost you for the champion plug? rs. 101?

Thanks bro. Will upload the pics soon.

You can check out my DIY here,it should help.

If you are confident enough,try yourself at home.
Try DOT4 brake fluid,absorbs less moisture and have higher operating temperature than DOT3.Recently done brake fluid replacing to dot4 on Maestro's bike,the braking efficiency has improved he said.
Brake fluid replacing/brake bleeding-RTR180 - xBhp.com : The Global Indian Biking Community

Opening Mastering cylinder in humid conditions might get extra moisture into fluid.
Hope you'll bleed existing fluid all out this time. Also, unlike Fork-Oil, it's recommended not to mix Break-Fluids of different ratings.


Yes, JC Road ought to be the place. I paid Rs 73/- for champion plug @SVC. I'll keep champion plug for my Access125.


It's really a great DIY thread. Thanks a ton.
Another query: Have you seen any Glycol based DOT5 Break-Fluid around?

Thanks man, I had gone through it a long time back. One suggestion...do mention how you dispose of the used brake fluid.

This time, I'll get my mech to understand the error of his ways. Next time its DIY for me.

I called saptagiri today and asked them what the price of the GS plug is...I was told its Rs. 101. I asked them whether its champion or NGK....I was told that they have no idea....that it costs around the same regardless of the make. So, it looks like you've been given the wrong plug after all. I wonder how. I remember once the spares guy confused GS with jeus (Zeus) From then on, Ive always mentioned the bike name as GS150R.

Speed

Guys,
My ODO reads 1120 KMS.
I am planning for a highway trip. What the advisable max speed i can go?
Last time when i took i went in 50 to 60 KMPH but its boring.

Can i maintain something between 60 to 70 now?

Let me know please...

Assuming you've done 1st service @SVC

You can even touch 80 kmph(Max 7500 RPM) now provided:

- you've new engine oil, done only couple of hundred kms on new oil and oil looks good across oil-strainer screen.
- warm up the engine before the cruise, just slow riding for first five kms will do.
- instead of cruising @constant speed you vary the speed all along the long haul. Only until you travel another 5/6 hundreds kms.

take precautions..
- lube chain
- tyre pressure (highway cruises require higher tyre pressures, 25psi front and 33 psi for rear are more than enough I suppose)

If you're traveling alone, take extra precautions...

Happy cruising..

I see you've already done with 1st service around 560 kms on your bike's ODO. Oil inside is already about 500 kms old. So, please listen to your bike on highway cruise. Do not keep it at high RPMs for longer durations, at least until another Oil replacement..