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  • 2strokerama: @ the vampire: Its upto you. Im of the opinion that if you dont rev your bike much, oil change is not needed as soon. But if you have revved it well, you could consider changing the oil. Also, why are you asking the question after changing oil? Dont tell us you'd have the bike waiting at the SC for a whole day so that someone answers this question for you.
    Dear 2strokerama, i said the SVC guys asked to change... Didn't tell that i obliged...u read too much of it....also i hope am not that silly to ask something after doing it...doesnt make sense..does it??? anyways thanks for your concern mate....Cheers..
    Last edited by The Vampire; 01-03-2012, 01:45 AM.
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    • Originally posted by MACH50 View Post
      Please check the provided diagram, for your information.

      Is it BS26's diagram? Assuming it is.

      at 50% of open throttle Jet-Needle injects/sprays maximum fuel
      at 75% of open throttle Needle-Jet injects/sprays maximum fuel
      at full throttle it's only Main-Jet injecting/spraying maximum fuel

      and air jet is coming handy from 50% throttle.

      Although the diagram depicts the ratio of each jet's role at any given throttle percentage, it is assumed(by me, a novice) that cumulative fuel being injected/sprayed will be directly proportional to throttle. Diagram doesn't tell us how much fuel is burnt at each level of throttle.

      By diagram Main-Jet comes into play when throttle is 60% open.
      Can I assume at 60% open throttle our GS is cruising around 80kmph @6000 RPM?
      Can I also assume that riding GS in the range of 50-60% open throttle i.e roughly between 65-80 kmph is a better tradeoff between speed and fuel economy?

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      • Hopefully Suzuki introduces a 250cc bike in the coming Auto Expo 2012.

        It's sad that they withdrew from MotoGP
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        • Originally posted by The Vampire View Post
          Thanks to both Punarvasu and Sparkot for their replies...so i can safely ride it till 900-950 kms mark and then change the engine oil....and since am not a frequent rider cheers to my wallet...
          Simply speaking

          Oil change depends up on the Man (the Rider) Machine (The Bike) and the Mean (the way it was ridden) lastly environment (road Condition)

          check oil level and viscosity periodically (every 100 kms ) and also if you feel oil need to be changed change it because psycologically if you feel the bike is running on bad oil then you feel the bike is working bad so change .... to your favorite brand but not from the recommended grade
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          • Originally posted by The Vampire View Post
            Thanks to both Punarvasu and Sparkot for their replies...so i can safely ride it till 900-950 kms mark and then change the engine oil....and since am not a frequent rider cheers to my wallet.
            Sure. You can safely go up to 900-1000 kms or 30 days from the date of purchase as recommended by the manufacturer.
            Changing oil in 50 kms and later in 100 kms and in 500 kms etc is nothing more than utter foolishness.

            Most of the bikers are changing oil in every alternative servicing i.e. in every 4000 kms after the 2nd servicing. Those bikes are not facing any issues due it.
            If the SC mechanic refuses to fill the oil you prefer, change it yourself. It is an easy job.
            Lube the chain and other necessary parts specified in page 6-7 and 6-8 of the manual regularly. Use a good lithium based grease and SAE 90 or 140 gear oil for lubing the chain.

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            • nads,
              Hope you have received my message.

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              • Originally posted by SparKot View Post
                This method demands:
                - a fresh engine with 0 kms ridden
                - free highway to perform hard break in

                1. How will you make sure the Engine is brand new and not run even for single km?
                SVC ride it for few kms to register @ RTO. Assume we can break-in hard with temporary number.
                Then how to make sure engine is new? in other words, how to make sure they've not ridden it before?

                2. How will you bring it to a free highway?

                3. some even claim "bike these days are sold post break-in", What exactly mating when we say "break-in"? is it just piston ring sealing?
                OT. But still:
                1> You can take the delivery from the dealer and register the bike yourself. That way 0 km on odo.

                2> The freeway logic applies to superbikes because they can easily hit high speeds and you need a lot of space to rev them well. For our bikes, even city roads will do if you ride it at late night or early morning when they are free of traffic.

                3> Bore smoothening, piston ring sealing, I even remember reading about crank bearing run in. Thats for the engine internals....besides that tires, suspension, brakes, transmission need run in as well. No idea about post break-in deliveries.

                Theres also the possibility taht this motoman running in could be an elaborate company funded conspiracy to lure people into ruining their engines and go in for those costly repairs. But then, there are racers who swear by this method which gives some credibility to it.

                We common folks cant get to the bottom of it unless we test both methods on identical machines under identical conditions and settings.

                Originally posted by The Vampire View Post
                Dear 2strokerama, i said the SVC guys asked to change... Didn't tell that i obliged...u read too much of it....also i hope am not that silly to ask something after doing it...doesnt make sense..does it??? anyways thanks for your concern mate....Cheers..
                Please dont take offense man. We see a lot of sillyness on the internet, especially among new owners. Im guilty of some as well. So I was just asking.

                Originally posted by punarvasu View Post
                Changing oil in 50 kms and later in 100 kms and in 500 kms etc is nothing more than utter foolishness.
                Our bike is under warranty for 2 years or 30000 kms, whichever is earlier. So, don’t be bothered about the engine or other parts of the it if it is serviced regularly. And to live peacefully, keep your ears closed to idiotic opinions and commends from those try to be in limelight.
                Is that so?? We better beware of these limelight seekers then. How do you tell who a limelight craver is?? Is it the person who informs of choices or is it the person who thinks only his opinion is right and forces it on others??

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                • Originally posted by MSN1 View Post
                  Simply speaking

                  Oil change depends up on the Man (the Rider) Machine (The Bike) and the Mean (the way it was ridden) lastly environment (road Condition)

                  check oil level and viscosity periodically (every 100 kms ) and also if you feel oil need to be changed change it because psycologically if you feel the bike is running on bad oil then you feel the bike is working bad so change .... to your favorite brand but not from the recommended grade
                  +1
                  not from the recommended grade?
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                  • Originally posted by nads View Post
                    awesome man..... at what rpm r u changing ur gears??? n what spds do u maintain man????

                    Between 5k-6k rpm, I was changing gear.

                    And as roads were good and vacant, i was able to maintain speed between 60-80kmph, once i touched 100kmph...

                    But later in mumbai city, i got mileage of ~45kmpl...
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                    • Originally posted by mysti View Post
                      Between 5k-6k rpm, I was changing gear.

                      And as roads were good and vacant, i was able to maintain speed between 60-80kmph, once i touched 100kmph...

                      But later in mumbai city, i got mileage of ~45kmpl...
                      Ahaaa.. that makes me feel happy... just joking....

                      i get a mileage between 45-48 in city riding.... n when touring i travel above 80kmph... if its between 75-85 i get a milage of 42-43kmpl but if i cross 90 then the milage starts dropping very rapidly... on this ride while coming back to mumbai was constantly between 100-110kph n hence the poor mileage... but damn the bike gave me a big grin across my face.... it was rock stable.... n the engine also didnt feel stressed out et all....thats the beautiful part n thats what i like bout our GS....

                      Anyways was searching for a mileage test can at auto shops surprisingly didnt find any.... many shopkeepers gave me a look as if i have asked them the holy grail.... n no one had any idea about what contraption i m talking about.... if any mumbai xbhpian can get it for me will be thankful...or point me in the right direction....

                      To ALL:- How is Akshay suzuki SVC in Malad??? My SVC has shut it shop will be going there for my nxt service... how is their servicing anyone given their bike there????

                      @Vishnu i asked an SVC manager today regarding the tappet clearance value n he said the .07 @inlet n .08 @Outlet... dunno what to do i m confused

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                      • Originally posted by SparKot View Post
                        +1
                        not from the recommended grade?
                        Didn't get you /-
                        Was suggesting on not to change the engine oil grade.

                        The default recomended / manual suggested grade for GS is 20W-40

                        Refer manual for more clarity

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                        @ All no hard feelings on The limelight seekers issue.

                        Here we are all helping one another,
                        Their is no preacher or teacher and their is no guru sishya concept.

                        Experianced folks are helping young chaps

                        Experianced folks means one who bought GS earlier is trying to share his knowledge with the new GS owner and clearing his doubts.

                        And ofcource everyone is from diffrent place and came accross diffrent sort of experiance, So obviously openion differs.

                        Staying silent doesn't means all are agreeing with one persons openion, it also means I don't or their is no point in arguing with a specific person on specific topic anymore as it won't yield any positive outcome.

                        So finally untill someone opens a poll to find the best GSPian, none of us will seek for lime or lemon light.

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                        One question :

                        For cars we have bumper to bumper insurance policy which cover 100% even for plastic or fiber parts, do we have such thing for Bikes any idea guys ?
                        Last edited by MSN1; 01-03-2012, 03:59 PM.
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                        • Greeting

                          Hi All,,

                          Long time since i posted here. good to see lots of new users.

                          back riding and my bike is giving me a decent 45kmpl. some vibrations on handle bars present and 8100 km covered.

                          Loving my bike.

                          did the bangalore junta meet up finally or not?
                          KM

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                          • Originally posted by KIRTIMANNAN View Post
                            Hi All,,

                            Long time since i posted here. good to see lots of new users.

                            back riding and my bike is giving me a decent 45kmpl. some vibrations on handle bars present and 8100 km covered.

                            Loving my bike.

                            did the bangalore junta meet up finally or not?
                            Not yet decided I believe,

                            My bad am gona be busy with my work till this month end, so I can't ...... :-(

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                            As you all know my GS is 2010 year first gen model.

                            This time I filled petrol for 200 rupees it comes to 2.75 ltrs
                            And now the trip meter reads
                            135 kms ( I use reserve to reserve) and its still on main. (May go another one or 2 kms I believe)

                            So 135 / 2.75 = 49. 09 not bad yaar


                            Guys any answer for my bike bumper to bumper insurance querry !!!!! ?
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                            • Originally posted by nads View Post
                              Ahaaa.. that makes me feel happy... just joking....

                              i get a mileage between 45-48 in city riding.... n when touring i travel above 80kmph... if its between 75-85 i get a milage of 42-43kmpl but if i cross 90 then the milage starts dropping very rapidly... on this ride while coming back to mumbai was constantly between 100-110kph n hence the poor mileage... but damn the bike gave me a big grin across my face.... it was rock stable.... n the engine also didnt feel stressed out et all....thats the beautiful part n thats what i like bout our GS....

                              Anyways was searching for a mileage test can at auto shops surprisingly didnt find any.... many shopkeepers gave me a look as if i have asked them the holy grail.... n no one had any idea about what contraption i m talking about.... if any mumbai xbhpian can get it for me will be thankful...or point me in the right direction....

                              To ALL:- How is Akshay suzuki SVC in Malad??? My SVC has shut it shop will be going there for my nxt service... how is their servicing anyone given their bike there????

                              @Vishnu i asked an SVC manager today regarding the tappet clearance value n he said the .07 @inlet n .08 @Outlet... dunno what to do i m confused
                              Happens same with the mileage for me also. In city i now get 45+ but in highways when i cruise beyond 80-90kmph i get very poor mileage 25+.

                              How do we know engine gets stressed or not? Is the roaring sound or hissing kind of sound means the engine is stressed? During a long ride, i always hear a continuous hissing (or air leaking kind of sound) from the engine.


                              Even i am trying here to buy a mileage test can, but the shopkeepers have no idea what it is, with the same strange look on me.



                              Originally posted by KIRTIMANNAN View Post
                              Hi All,,

                              Long time since i posted here. good to see lots of new users.

                              back riding and my bike is giving me a decent 45kmpl. some vibrations on handle bars present and 8100 km covered.

                              Loving my bike.

                              did the bangalore junta meet up finally or not?
                              Meet was planned last sunday but no much response except from myself, madhu and ashok.. How about this weekend?@MSN, @2strokerama @Kirtimannan and all others
                              Last edited by gs150r; 01-04-2012, 12:17 AM.
                              You cannot change your future, but, you can change your habits, and surely your habits will change your future - Dr Abdul Kalam

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                              • Originally posted by SparKot View Post
                                It's sad that they withdrew from MotoGP
                                Dats a good sign among other things.

                                You know why ?
                                Take example of Kawasaki.

                                Kawasaki exited MotoGP, and we got the fastest bike on planet from them at low cost viz ZZR1400 2012, also the bad ass naked bike Z1000.

                                MotoGP is not as attractive as F1, it is all that Honda show along with Ducati and Yamaha.

                                But how much of MotoGP do we get from Honda or Yamaha for buyers like us ?
                                None.So what MotoGP means to me is like another TV Commercial now.Lap after lap of repetitive riding.Ok we get to see some wonderful corner's and aggressive racing but dats all.But now-a-days MotoGP is boring.

                                The only good thing about MotoGP for me is Valentino Rossi.

                                The fastest and best bikes on planet are from those companies which fared poorly in MotoGP and now has exited it.......viz Kawasaki and Suzuki.

                                Originally posted by SparKot View Post
                                By diagram Main-Jet comes into play when throttle is 60% open.
                                I believe it is near to 80%

                                Originally posted by SparKot View Post
                                Can I assume at 60% open throttle our GS is cruising around 80kmph @6000 RPM?
                                Depends on the gear you are in.

                                Originally posted by SparKot View Post
                                Can I also assume that riding GS in the range of 50-60% open throttle i.e roughly between 65-80 kmph is a better tradeoff between speed and fuel economy?
                                Stock GS likes the 70-100kmph range, my GS likes the 60-120kmph range.
                                Hence I do not know what to comment here.
                                It depends on what you want from your bike.

                                I have only one thing to tell you in this context..........60% throttle of your machine supports the midrange torque in any gear.
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