Mind you .....we all....were in riding gears from top to bottom....also don't attain such speeds unless you are fully geared....even a small stone can set you and your bike flying in air.....I discourage people from riding so fast unless absolutely required......

@ Maestro: Right.....do tell us why it was absolutely required for you to hit 130. Were rowdies or terrorists after you? Were you expecting your wife's delivery within the next hour and you were 130 km away? But I can agree that 130 is absolutely required to have some fun sometimes.

@sparkot: What maestro said + you need to rev and shift very high + you need a fairly straight road without frequent lane breaks and intersections. It also helps if you have good tailwind. Dont attempt if you happen upon crosswinds. Its not that big a deal really if you find the right road.

@ punarvasu: The supposed reasoning behind that is to flush off all metallic particles that supposedly get chipped and fall off during the mating process of the initially imperfect bore with the piston. The intervals roughly are 50 km, 500 km, 2000 km as far as I know.

Many people have claimed that the motoman running in works much better than company recommended one. But we only have all these claims with no hard evidence to show for them.

While the logic seems agreeable; without proof, its all upto one's trust levels and a willingness to take risk running it this way. At the same time, even in case motoman's claim is false, there definitely is no harm in just changing oil at frequent intervals during the running in, other than to your wallet.

On the other hand, one of the arguements against the company specified running in is that companies deliberately tell us to run it in moderately so that our engines internals dont get mated in sufficiantly well and we will go in for those expensive replacements\repairs sooner, which is one of the bigtime sources of income for these companies. Again, no comments since we dont have much to compare against.

A fact supporting this to an extent is that bikes are revved up nutty before exiting the factories only. But this applies to superbikes...no idea if local bikes are also rev tested.

At the end of the arguement, we have some very learned people going by motoman's method and other equally learned people going by the factory method. So, which way to go??? Its upto the user.

So, my point to punarvasu is: dont go bashing up one method simply because you have never used it and because the company recommends a different method. Not speaking of it is not the same as speaking against it. Who are you to say that the other method carries no merit without testing it yourself. Besides, if you hav any belief in conspiracy theories, you would be far from trusting all of what big corporations say.

Off topic, suppose youre banned (god forbid, touch wood and all), will we get a representative related the dwapara yuga?

@ the vampire: Its upto you. Im of the opinion that if you dont rev your bike much, oil change is not needed as soon. But if you have revved it well, you could consider changing the oil. Also, why are you asking the question after changing oil? Dont tell us you'd have the bike waiting at the SC for a whole day so that someone answers this question for you.

Sure. But not from Dwapara but from Kali Yuga.

Unbelievable!!!! pls cross check jayant either my bike is in a bad tune or the tappets might be the culprit (hav set my tappets in the last service) n how hav calculated ur FE... I had a full tank n then i tanked it up again after 275kms added fuel of Rs600/- n got 8.7Ltrs


@ Maestro: Right.....do tell us why it was absolutely required for you to hit 130. Were rowdies or terrorists after you? Were you expecting your wife's delivery within the next hour and you were 130 km away? But I can agree that 130 is absolutely required to have some fun sometimes.


ROFL!!!!

what do u hav to say to this tanmay?????

Yes, esp when you're riding alone for long stretches of road..

Say I've right gears:
- Knee-pads, elbow-pads, helmet, protective gloves.. etc. please point out if I missed any
- a favouring weather, no crosswinds, and healthy tailwinds.
- long stretch of straight highway for kilometers, no crowd..
- single rider, no pillion, no luggage.

then what are precautions about the bike to be looked into?
- chain tightness?
- Engine Oil freshness? meaning how much it has done already/-
please add if I'm missing anything.

The satisfaction you get "when you do things" is much different than what you get "knowing you could do things"

exactly, one of the secret to a "Blooming business". Make people predictable and exploit them predictable.

very interesting approach for breaking-in 4-stroke engines... will remember it..

Surely theres some prob....

I got 55+ on highway when i had trip to pune

I was trying to outrun big cars, to catchup with a Cbr guy, and just showing jayant how to reach such speeds....
Nadeem.....u know I am a kid.....toh wife ka sawaal hi nahi.....
Chain tightness must be the one recommended in manual....also the engine oil must be around 200-300kms old as it gets settled property.....also you need to crouch.....and in crouch position its very difficult to look in rearview mirrors.....remember there are people even faster than you......and you forgot shoes..........




A word of caution.....just don't try doing such things just for heck of it....or to show people that even you can reach such speeds.......and especially if you don't have experience of riding at triple digit speeds for hours......
The bike handles very different....and even just a flick would result in crash......also you need to master the braking technique......

Engine Flushing

Hi friends,

Can anybody please explain what is Engine Flushing??...When I went for my 1st servicing the SVC guy was quick to advise me to go for Engine flushing. He explained that it drains out the dirt and slug settled in the Engine. I denied it and said I would get it done during the Second servicing.

Has anybody has get it done on their bike, does it have any advantage?

For car some thing called engine flush fluid available separately, but for bikes some mechanics uses kerosene or even diesel as engine flush.

and the right way to use a low price suitable grade oil use it for some time, drain the oil completely and use the good recommended grade oil from the brand you trust.

In many cases unnecessary use of engine flush on a 150 or 100 cc doesn't resolve issue instead it create issue, and some mechanics do engine flush as extra built up for paisa vasool.

here my question is how many kilometers your bike is done?

why the SVC recommended for Flush? for what problem?

many dealers recommend this sort of stuffs for their profit

that is what I was thinking

MotoMan's Break-In method - query

This method demands:
- a fresh engine with 0 kms ridden
- free highway to perform hard break in

1. How will you make sure the Engine is brand new and not run even for single km?
SVC ride it for few kms to register @ RTO. Assume we can break-in hard with temporary number.
Then how to make sure engine is new? in other words, how to make sure they've not ridden it before?

2. How will you bring it to a free highway?

3. some even claim "bike these days are sold post break-in", What exactly mating when we say "break-in"? is it just piston ring sealing?

May be thats the sales target fixed by the dealer for that guy.

motoman's method dont try just play with in the manual specified limits it will set automatically

may be engine break-in is just piston ring alone or bore and piston or what ever.

the bike doesnt runs alone on engine their are several parts involved in it so let them all settled down slowly by kissing one another every time they mate.

so lets start do vrooooom and forgot motoman or all those hi fi funda Internet stuffs.

awesome man..... at what rpm r u changing ur gears??? n what spds do u maintain man????

Please check the provided diagram, for your information.

Thanks to both Punarvasu and Sparkot for their replies...so i can safely ride it till 900-950 kms mark and then change the engine oil....and since am not a frequent rider cheers to my wallet...