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  • Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

    Originally posted by Anupam Das View Post
    Check by reserve to reserve method and at different petrol pumps\dispensers.
    Ok.. Ll try the reserve to reserve.. But one question, how much of mileage difference there will be if we keep the rpm under 5000 and just ride as u like.. I will mostly ride free road and will reach 85 Kmph..

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    • Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

      Originally posted by mac4rfree View Post
      Ok.. Ll try the reserve to reserve.. But one question, how much of mileage difference there will be if we keep the rpm under 5000 and just ride as u like.. I will mostly ride free road and will reach 85 Kmph..
      That will depend on which gear you will ride.

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      • Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

        Originally posted by Anupam Das View Post
        That will depend on which gear you will ride.
        I will shift properly at 4000 rpm.. So I ll reach 5th gear at 54 Kmph.. After that its only at 5th gear..

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        • Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

          Originally posted by mac4rfree View Post
          I will shift properly at 4000 rpm.. So I ll reach 5th gear at 54 Kmph.. After that its only at 5th gear..
          Let me give you a couple of advises.

          1. Fuel mileage should be checked using Full tank to full tank method not reserve to reserve. Reserve indicator is unreliable (in any bike), and mind you I said Full tank to Full tank NOT Brim to Brim

          2. Bike makes peak torque at 6500rpm. If you shift below 4k, you are short shifting. Its not good for the engine. stay between 4.5k to 5.5k or 6k
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          • Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

            Originally posted by mac4rfree View Post
            I will shift properly at 4000 rpm.. So I ll reach 5th gear at 54 Kmph.. After that its only at 5th gear..
            If you ride at 60 kmph approx. in 5th gear on highway consistently you should get around 55 kmpl. It is as per my experience. You may even get higher mileage if petrol is of good quality and you are given the right volume\amount.

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            • Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

              Ok guys. I will check and keep you all posted. BTW which fuel you people are using. Am using bharat petroleum consistently..

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              • Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

                Originally posted by MotoBlizzard View Post
                Let me give you a couple of advises.

                1. Fuel mileage should be checked using Full tank to full tank method not reserve to reserve. Reserve indicator is unreliable (in any bike), and mind you I said Full tank to Full tank NOT Brim to Brim

                2. Bike makes peak torque at 6500rpm. If you shift below 4k, you are short shifting. Its not good for the engine. stay between 4.5k to 5.5k or 6k
                1. I beg to differ. If memory serves me right, I have seen Honda advising reserve to reserve method somewhere, maybe at ASC.
                2. At 6000 rpm in 5th gear Hornet hits 80 kmph, which does not give maximum mileage.

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                • Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

                  Originally posted by Anupam Das View Post
                  1. I beg to differ. If memory serves me right, I have seen Honda advising reserve to reserve method somewhere, maybe at ASC.
                  2. At 6000 rpm in 5th gear Hornet hits 80 kmph, which does not give maximum mileage.
                  1. Confirm that first, then beg to differ. Nobody in this world does a reserve to reserve fuel mileage measurement except in India. Use your common sense. Do you think reserve to reserve is going to be more accurate than full tank to full tank?

                  2. You dint understand my point. If you want to treat your bike like a baby and get Maximum fuel mileage, then sell the bike and get a Bajaj Platina or TVS Sport. They will give you 80+ kmpl.
                  Last edited by MotoBlizzard; 04-23-2018, 10:55 PM.
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                  • Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

                    Originally posted by Anupam Das View Post
                    1. I beg to differ. If memory serves me right, I have seen Honda advising reserve to reserve method somewhere, maybe at ASC.
                    2. At 6000 rpm in 5th gear Hornet hits 80 kmph, which does not give maximum mileage.
                    1. Some say brim to brim is more accurate than R to R, but brim method can't be used for vehicles with EVAP. Full tank to full tank is convenient for cars and Fi motorcycles as they don't have a fuel tap/valve.

                    2. R to R is fairly accurate if done correctly. My Eterno didnt have a fuel gauge so I had to rely on such calculations. It would hit reserve +/- 10 kms of the predicted reserve.

                    3. Usually SVC uses a mileage bottle for testing kmpl.

                    4. Shifting at peak torque is for best acceleration. GS hits peak torque at 6k but Suzuki recommends shifting at 4.5k for best economy. Fortunately for GS, the crank is so big that it can take abuse (in the form of short shifting).

                    5. IIRC, HMSI claimed 59 kmpl for Eterno and that can be achieved easily by not so aggressive acceleration.

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                    • Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

                      Originally posted by MotoBlizzard View Post
                      1. Confirm that first, then beg to differ. Nobody in this world does a reserve to reserve fuel mileage measurement except in India. Use your common sense. Do you think reserve to reserve is going to be more accurate than full tank to full tank?

                      2. You dint understand my point. If you want to treat your bike like a baby and get Maximum fuel mileage, then sell the bike and get a Bajaj Platina or TVS Sport. They will give you 80+ kmpl.
                      Your reply is disgusting to say the least which shows that you have little\no knowledge about motorcycle. I repeat that reserve to reserve method is recommended by Honda which is more accurate than your disgusting method. Proof is attached. Read owner's manual first, acquire some knowledge, then comment.
                      I only commented that riding at 6k is not conducive for good mileage. Shifting gear at 6.5k repeatedly will only shorten the bike's life.Click image for larger version

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                      • Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

                        Has anyone modified the bike handle?

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                        • Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

                          Originally posted by Anupam Das View Post
                          Your reply is disgusting to say the least which shows that you have little\no knowledge about motorcycle. I repeat that reserve to reserve method is recommended by Honda which is more accurate than your disgusting method. Proof is attached. Read owner's manual first, acquire some knowledge, then comment.
                          I only commented that riding at 6k is not conducive for good mileage. Shifting gear at 6.5k repeatedly will only shorten the bike's life.
                          Chill out Bro. MB isnt wrong with what he said. Experienced riders use Full tank to full tank method because it does not depend on the reserve indicator which is known to be unreliable. With Full tank to Full tank, you get fully accurate reading because when you fill a tank fully (not to the brim), the fuel nozzle shuts off automatically which is consistent.

                          And no, shifting at 6.5k repeatedly will not shorten the bikes life. Infact the idea is to not lug the engine. If you are going to bother about maximum fuel mileage with a performance bike, then this bike should not have been purchased in the first place.
                          Last edited by RoyalIndian; 04-24-2018, 09:56 PM.

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                          • Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

                            Originally posted by RoyalIndian View Post
                            Chill out Bro. MB isnt wrong with what he said. Experienced riders use Full tank to full tank method because it does not depend on the reserve indicator which is known to be unreliable. With Full tank to Full tank, you get fully accurate reading because when you fill a tank fully (not to the brim), the fuel nozzle shuts off automatically which is consistent.

                            And no, shifting at 6.5k repeatedly will not shorten the bikes life. Infact the idea is to not lug the engine. If you are going to bother about maximum fuel mileage with a performance bike, then this bike should not have been purchased in teh first place.
                            If you go through YouTube videos of BS4 RE bikes filling petrol tankful having problems then you will agree that bikes having evaporative emission control system(with charcoal cannister) should not be filled tankful. Hornet is BS4 compliant. Older bikes did not have evaporative emission control system. That's why some riders calculated tankful to tankful. This does not mean that reserve to reserve method is incorrect\inaccurate. I am calculating FE by reserve to reserve method since my RX 100 days and find it quite correct.
                            I did not suggest to lug the engine. Hornet 160R is not a performance bike. If you always shift at 6.5k please think is it okay? It will definitely have adverse effect like faster wear out, noise pollution, inconvenience to the public and so on.

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                            • Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

                              Originally posted by Anupam Das View Post
                              If you go through YouTube videos of BS4 RE bikes filling petrol tankful having problems then you will agree that bikes having evaporative emission control system(with charcoal cannister) should not be filled tankful. Hornet is BS4 compliant. Older bikes did not have evaporative emission control system. That's why some riders calculated tankful to tankful. This does not mean that reserve to reserve method is incorrect\inaccurate. I am calculating FE by reserve to reserve method since my RX 100 days and find it quite correct.
                              I did not suggest to lug the engine. Hornet 160R is not a performance bike. If you always shift at 6.5k please think is it okay? It will definitely have adverse effect like faster wear out, noise pollution, inconvenience to the public and so on.
                              Theres a difference between filling the tank to the Brim and filling it upto the Filler Neck where the Nozzle shuts off automatically. In the latter, there is no issue with EVAP system. As ashwanth mentioned earlier, the issue comes when you fill it to the brim.

                              Reserve to reserve is calculated in Carb bikes with a fuel petcock. But you cant do this in an FI bike, it will damage the Fuel pump.

                              If you have been calculating it with R to R method since RX100 days, thats fine. You have been doing it with Carb bikes only. But as the motorcycles are now shifting from Carb to FI, measuring fuel mileage using the FT to FT method has become the norm.

                              Hornet 160R is definitely a performance bike. Otherwise they would not have Unicorn160 and XBlade in the same segment with the same engine but in a different state of tune.

                              And nobody suggested to shift at 6.5k. The suggestion was to shift between 4.5 to 6.5k meaning downshift at 4.5 upshift at 5.5 or 6 or 6.5.

                              Faster wear out? Yes, but not as fast as you might be thinking/exaggerating. Noise pollution? No, lets leave this problem to Royal Enfield riders! Inconvenience to public? No, not at all.

                              -Ride Safe!

                              Originally posted by MotoBlizzard
                              Take care buddy! Cheers!
                              Do you need to chill out. He probably misunderstood your statements because hes referring to the R to R method in relation to Carb bikes. Obviously on a petcock if you keep the knob at ON, the bike will turn off after the 1 liter test fuel runs out and you can get the fuel mileage that way. But I get it, FT to FT is the current norm.
                              Last edited by RoyalIndian; 04-24-2018, 10:41 PM.

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                              • Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

                                Originally posted by RoyalIndian View Post
                                Theres a difference between filling the tank to the Brim and filling it upto the Filler Neck where the Nozzle shuts off automatically. In the latter, there is no issue with EVAP system. As ashwanth mentioned earlier, the issue comes when you fill it to the brim.

                                Reserve to reserve is calculated in Carb bikes with a fuel petcock. But you cant do this in an FI bike, it will damage the Fuel pump.

                                If you have been calculating it with R to R method since RX100 days, thats fine. You have been doing it with Carb bikes only. But as the motorcycles are now shifting from Carb to FI, measuring fuel mileage using the FT to FT method has become the norm.

                                Hornet 160R is definitely a performance bike. Otherwise they would not have Unicorn160 and XBlade in the same segment with the same engine but in a different state of tune.

                                And nobody suggested to shift at 6.5k. The suggestion was to shift between 4.5 to 6.5k meaning downshift at 4.5 upshift at 5.5 or 6 or 6.5.

                                Faster wear out? Yes, but not as fast as you might be thinking/exaggerating. Noise pollution? No, lets leave this problem to Royal Enfield riders! Inconvenience to public? No, not at all.

                                -Ride Safe!
                                This type of filling as mentioned by you will bring inaccuracy in FE calculation than R to R method.
                                I am talking about carbureted bikes only.
                                Such repeated shifts will have adverse effects.
                                Hornet 160R is not a performance bike even it is tuned for more power than the other two.
                                Such spirited riding is not advisable always.
                                Ride responsibly.

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