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**raaz321** · 07-18-2018, 08:35 PM

Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

Originally posted by anoopkumar0 View Post

Most of compression loss are not serious issue. You won't get carbon accumulated in few thousand kms.
When you get this issue next time, just open the tank cover and close it after a few seconds and try start after 30 sec.
If that works then it just vapor lock issue.

are you sure , my hornet got carbon formation after 6.5k km, so i told the same to SVC and he showed me one unicorn engine that just run 2k with carbon formed valves , honda brand name is past , all faulty bikes, svc only told me this ,they are facing more issues with hornet and unicorn 2nd version.

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after values change bike become harsh, but after 15 days approx again bike is power less and same old crap, i took it to local famous honda third party mechanic he right way after riding my bike told me , unicorn 160 version and this one got same engine, this engine is really crap no one can fix it, just use it and sell it after a year and told me it will give more headache in future as most of their customers are unhappy with hornet,

Just with trust on honda brand name i blindly brought this crap , no way i will buy another Honda in life .wasted my hard earned money on this shit.

**#bpk** · 07-18-2018, 10:07 PM

Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

Originally posted by raaz321 View Post

are you sure , my hornet got carbon formation after 6.5k km, so i told the same to SVC and he showed me one unicorn engine that just run 2k with carbon formed valves , honda brand name is past , all faulty bikes, svc only told me this ,they are facing more issues with hornet and unicorn 2nd version.

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after values change bike become harsh, but after 15 days approx again bike is power less and same old crap, i took it to local famous honda third party mechanic he right way after riding my bike told me , unicorn 160 version and this one got same engine, this engine is really crap no one can fix it, just use it and sell it after a year and told me it will give more headache in future as most of their customers are unhappy with hornet,

Just with trust on honda brand name i blindly brought this crap , no way i will buy another Honda in life .wasted my hard earned money on this shit.

Same feelings towards honda by me [emoji34]

**ashwinprakas** · 07-19-2018, 02:46 AM

Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

Originally posted by raaz321 View Post

are you sure , my hornet got carbon formation after 6.5k km, so i told the same to SVC and he showed me one unicorn engine that just run 2k with carbon formed valves , honda brand name is past , all faulty bikes, svc only told me this ,they are facing more issues with hornet and unicorn 2nd version.

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after values change bike become harsh, but after 15 days approx again bike is power less and same old crap, i took it to local famous honda third party mechanic he right way after riding my bike told me , unicorn 160 version and this one got same engine, this engine is really crap no one can fix it, just use it and sell it after a year and told me it will give more headache in future as most of their customers are unhappy with hornet,

Just with trust on honda brand name i blindly brought this crap , no way i will buy another Honda in life .wasted my hard earned money on this shit.

Carbon formation is not a matter of concern per say, modern motorcycles run a tight squish band so watever minimal deposit you notice is quite normal and the only cause for excess build-up would be if you do not properly ride the motorcycle i,e if you ride like a typical Indian i.e high gear, low RPM style!

Make sure you properly utilize the power band before an upshift and the motorcycle would run at its optimum, this doesnt mean that you should crack open the throttle like a maniac, rather you should delay your shifts until you're near peak torque at 6.5k RPM.

Quite contrary to what the public notion is Honda's are a pain to own in the long run due to sub par customer support, spare quality, pricing and many such factors, but if you're willing to put in the effort and get your hands dirty in the process then there's nothing as engaging as owning one, especially since most workshop manuals are available online due to many models being available internationally.

**ashwanth.r** · 07-19-2018, 03:05 PM

Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post

Quite contrary to what the public notion is Honda's are a pain to own in the long run due to sub par customer support, spare quality, pricing and many such factors

Ashwin, why do you say spare quality is a miss - experience from your ZMA/Activa?

Which spares are low in quality?

Looking at the parts catalogue, one can find the CDI is from Shindengen, brake discs from Yutaka, calipers and master cylinder from Nissin, seals from ARAI, forks and rear shock from Showa, starter motor and magneto from Mitsuba, Carb from Kehin, cam chain and sprocket from Borg Warner, all prevailing torque/self-locking nuts from Simmonds Marshal, wheel bearings from NEI/NBC, plug from NGK, switchgear and lockset from Minda, etc.

These companies are some of the best in business, no?

**#bpk** · 07-19-2018, 03:24 PM

Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

Originally posted by ashwanth.r View Post

Ashwin, why do you say spare quality is a miss - experience from your ZMA/Activa?

Which spares are low in quality?

Looking at the parts catalogue, one can find the CDI is from Shindengen, brake discs from Yutaka, calipers and master cylinder from Nissin, seals from ARAI, forks and rear shock from Showa, starter motor and magneto from Mitsuba, Carb from Kehin, cam chain and sprocket from Borg Warner, all prevailing torque/self-locking nuts from Simmonds Marshal, wheel bearings from NEI/NBC, plug from NGK, switchgear and lockset from Minda, etc.

These companies are some of the best in business, no?

That's on paper only , in reality see quality of recent honda bikes, rusting in 1 week old hornet, panel gaps formed in the instrument cluster after 1month of usage, chain rusting etc, and all these problems are faced by me on recently launched 2018 hornet. Quality wise yamaha and tvs are good in all aspects. Except cbr 250r, every honda bikes have some quality issues. Honda is good for only scooter sells in india . Even hero is better than honda, atleast, they provide dc headlight.

**ashwanth.r** · 07-19-2018, 03:42 PM

Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

Originally posted by #bpk View Post

see quality of recent honda bikes, rusting in 1 week old hornet, panel gaps formed in the instrument cluster after 1month of usage, chain rusting etc, and all these problems are faced by me on recently launched 2018 hornet. Quality wise yamaha and tvs are good in all aspects.

Rusting is common in every bike, especially if one is close to the coast like me. Suzuki rusts faster and worser than a Honda - but the owners have to take care as well - simply servicing a bike every 4000-6000 kms is not enough. Chain of all bikes will rust unless plated with brass or sprayed with oil. Yes, Yamaha and TVS are good, no doubt. And, why have you developed so much negativity against your hornet - you have to live atleast another 2 years with it, won't you?

**#bpk** · 07-19-2018, 03:57 PM

Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

Originally posted by ashwanth.r View Post

Rusting is common in every bike, especially if one is close to the coast like me. Suzuki rusts faster and worser than a Honda - but the owners have to take care as well - simply servicing a bike every 4000-6000 kms is not enough. Chain of all bikes will rust unless plated with brass or sprayed with oil. Yes, Yamaha and TVS are good, no doubt. And, why have you developed so much negativity against your hornet - you have to live atleast another 2 years with it, won't you?

Even after cleaning and lubing chain for every 500 kilometers, chain rusing happened in my bike which is only 920 kilometers run. I think you don't own hornet, do you ? [emoji16][emoji16][emoji16]

**#bpk** · 07-19-2018, 03:58 PM

Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

Originally posted by ashwanth.r View Post

Rusting is common in every bike, especially if one is close to the coast like me. Suzuki rusts faster and worser than a Honda - but the owners have to take care as well - simply servicing a bike every 4000-6000 kms is not enough. Chain of all bikes will rust unless plated with brass or sprayed with oil. Yes, Yamaha and TVS are good, no doubt. And, why have you developed so much negativity against your hornet - you have to live atleast another 2 years with it, won't you?

Will you buy my hornet, i will sell it to you now [emoji23][emoji23].

**ashwanth.r** · 07-19-2018, 04:09 PM

Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

Originally posted by #bpk View Post

Will you buy my hornet, i will sell it to you now [emoji23][emoji23].

You already know I don't own a Hornet. Definitely, pack it, put it in the Guwahati-TVM Express SLR and let me know

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**#bpk** · 07-19-2018, 04:13 PM

Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

Originally posted by ashwanth.r View Post

You already know I don't own a Hornet. Definitely, pack it, put it in the Guwahati-TVM Express SLR and let me know

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Haha that was just a joke, actually we customers want more perfection in terms of quality, since the manufacturer has demanded a premium amount so the quality should be best, this makes me sad, bdw pardon me if i said something wrong, i love automobiles, specially bikes, so got little emotional [emoji22][emoji22]

**ashwanth.r** · 07-19-2018, 04:45 PM

Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

Originally posted by #bpk View Post

we customers want more perfection in terms of quality, since the manufacturer has demanded a premium amount

Honda always charges a premium. And they also tell you to wait. Indian customer wants everything - quality, mileage, power, lost cost. Before joining XBhp, I did not like Bajaj and TVS much - but both these desi manufacturers have improved/grown a lot.

Originally posted by #bpk View Post

if i said something wrong

You did not offend me. We are just discussing here.

Originally posted by #bpk View Post

i love automobiles, specially bikes, so got little emotional [emoji22][emoji22]

Yes, that is true. It is our or our parents' hard earned money. You are going through this with your Hornet and am going through the same with my GS. Once that "I shouldn't have bought it" sets in our mind, living with it becomes difficult.

**ashwinprakas** · 07-19-2018, 09:49 PM

Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

Guess my previous post didn't come through.

To make things precise, a motorcycle should run when I require it to run and it should cover as much miles as I wish to cover on it with the least possible inconvenience at a reasonable cost and that is why I would recommend against opting for anything that is derived from the CB150, the CB125 is a different story though.

**ManishVerma** · 07-21-2018, 08:42 AM

Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

Morning Gents,

Where can I get this fixed in New Delhi?
Also, will it better to have the unit replaced altogether?

Thanks!

**raaz321** · 07-21-2018, 07:26 PM

Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

Originally posted by ashwanth.r View Post

Honda always charges a premium. And they also tell you to wait. Indian customer wants everything - quality, mileage, power, lost cost.

don't talk like immature bro ,not only in india every customer expect these, we are paying dude not getting these for free and we know every thing has it's own pros and cons,
if's ok it it has problem and not best in it's class but we expect it to be not worst in its class,

I hate my hornet for the trouble it giving but the same time i love it for it's feel,at 100km speed also it going like study beast and my active pick up is more better than my hornet and reaching 85 easily and my activa is more smoother than this .125cc model. hornet is failed version no doubt in it, i contacted around 6 mechanics to found root cause all said same.

**elviento** · 07-21-2018, 08:44 PM

Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

Reading through the recent posts I now feel like i should opt for yamaha or at least not opt for hornet. I was about to place an order for hornet tomorrow...damn..

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