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Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences
Some motorcycles are like that, take the Royal Enfields for example, almost all variants within the same CC range runs the same, the tighter things get, more prominent certain after effects would seem.Originally posted by Shashank K R View PostThis I agree, though for those hornets, the differences were very noticeable. I have seen and ridden other Unicorn 160s and Gixxers, even though they run somewhat differently, idling and the way they accelerated were similar. The idling was with smooth beats. The acceleration was similar (linear), though refinement was slightly different due to maintenance and normal factors as you mentioned.
On some hornets the idle seemed to be "start-stop" and not smooth (I guess the correct word is that they had a rough idle) despite having the same idle speed. A few couldn't go past 100kmph easily. The refinements were very different, some of them ran as if there was sand in the engine. I can't imagine that these owners will be happy with the bike. There is definitely some problem with these ones, perhaps the valve clearances or the carb.
But then again they would not ideally be the same due to the number of variables, say you and I purchase the same motorcycle, after a few days of running we may or may not have motorcycles that run alike, which again depends on numerous factors including consumable wear and tear to atmospheric factors to usage patterns, the variables are just too many and too diverse to pen down, and just because our motorcycles might feel a bit different to each other doesn't actually mean that something is wrong.
Plus it takes only a miniscule difference in AFR to bring a noticeable difference to idling and acceleration, the difference could be caused by type of fuel, condition of fuel, condition of air filter element, atmospheric condition, condition of spark plugs etc, I hope you get my point.
The best means to see if all is well is to check the basics i.e Air, Fuel, Compression, Spark, and Lubrication, if they are within recommended thresholds for the type of use and other consumables are replaced and clearances are maintained as per recommended intervals then all is well unless you start observing something starkly unusual.
Even the exact same motorcycle doesn't give the same output on consecutive dyno runs AFAIK.
Nothing as such. Performance satisfaction is highly subjective, and for me, it's a Bajaj any day due to reliability and for me, reliability is covering the maximum km's with the least possible expenditure with the least possible downtime and nothing matches my expectation as far as Bajaj does, period.Originally posted by #bpk View PostHi , then which motorcycle brand will give an even smoothness and performance please tell me. Should i trust yamaha, suzuki, tvs over honda and bajaj as my next motorcycle upgrade.
But at the same time, those who are Jap aficionados might get a stroke seeing the oil residue on my P220's head cover or would go bonkers when they realize that my P220 doesn't come with an auto-decompressor. I have a friend who almost foamed at the mouth when his Yamaha on draining returned 50ml less oil than what was put in, whereas for me even a 400ml drop in oil level won't be a matter of alarm.
Motorcycling Experience:
2000 ~ 2017 Y2K Kinetic Zoom (Disposed at 15k)
2011 ~ 2015 Hero Honda Karizma R (Sold at 56.5k)
2013 ~ 2014 Bajaj Discover 100 4G (Sold at 16.5k)
2015 ~ 2017 TVS Wego (Totaled at 18k)
2015 - Bajaj Pulsar 220F (Currently 31k) < Garage Queen!
2017 - Bajaj CT100B (Currently 21k) < 'Golden Quadrilateral' Runner!
The Ride was Good, but Life is short, spend it Wisely!
Adios Comrades!
A.P. 2018
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Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences
Hi ashwani ji, is dominar a good bikeOriginally posted by ashwinprakas View PostSome motorcycles are like that, take the Royal Enfields for example, almost all variants within the same CC range runs the same, the tighter things get, more prominent certain after effects would seem.
But then again they would not ideally be the same due to the number of variables, say you and I purchase the same motorcycle, after a few days of running we may or may not have motorcycles that run alike, which again depends on numerous factors including consumable wear and tear to atmospheric factors to usage patterns, the variables are just too many and too diverse to pen down, and just because our motorcycles might feel a bit different to each other doesn't actually mean that something is wrong.
Plus it takes only a miniscule difference in AFR to bring a noticeable difference to idling and acceleration, the difference could be caused by type of fuel, condition of fuel, condition of air filter element, atmospheric condition, condition of spark plugs etc, I hope you get my point.
The best means to see if all is well is to check the basics i.e Air, Fuel, Compression, Spark, and Lubrication, if they are within recommended thresholds for the type of use and other consumables are replaced and clearances are maintained as per recommended intervals then all is well unless you start observing something starkly unusual.
Even the exact same motorcycle doesn't give the same output on consecutive dyno runs AFAIK.
Nothing as such. Performance satisfaction is highly subjective, and for me, it's a Bajaj any day due to reliability and for me, reliability is covering the maximum km's with the least possible expenditure with the least possible downtime and nothing matches my expectation as far as Bajaj does, period.
But at the same time, those who are Jap aficionados might get a stroke seeing the oil residue on my P220's head cover or would go bonkers when they realize that my P220 doesn't come with an auto-decompressor. I have a friend who almost foamed at the mouth when his Yamaha on draining returned 50ml less oil than what was put in, whereas for me even a 400ml drop in oil level won't be a matter of alarm. [emoji3]
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Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences
Thank you very much for the reply, i tried in amazon i didn't dounf the exact one , if possible could you please share the links ?Originally posted by #bpk View PostBuy matt black spray paint from amazon and spray it. You'll get siver colour spray on Amazon too
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Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences
Indeed it is, I doubt you'd get anything more feature packed and safer at that price point.Originally posted by #bpk View PostHi ashwani ji, is dominar a good bike
But personally, it is not my cup of tea, I thrash my motorcycles hard and I doubt anything with liquid cooling and fuel injection can survive a good thrashing. And even if I'm careful I would end up dropping the motorcycle once in a while due to the nature of riding and something so modern like the Dominar doesn't inspire much confidence.
If I were looking for safety then I'd consider the RTR200V4 ABS or the RTR180 ABS they also come with BOSCH dual channel ABS kits that offer commendable performance and are available with Carburettor fuelling and air cooling which is more abuse friendly than FI and LC, plus the Suzuki derived based motor has commendable lineage compared to the KTM derived motor of the Dominar.
And counter to what the advertisements say, touring is not about how fast you can go, but rather for how long you can maintain a given speed consistently, which is why some riders here tour close to 1000 km's a day on their 100cc motorcycles whereas some 1000cc touring motorcyclists barely do a 100 km's a day, so in fact it has more to do with the rider than the ride.Motorcycling Experience:
2000 ~ 2017 Y2K Kinetic Zoom (Disposed at 15k)
2011 ~ 2015 Hero Honda Karizma R (Sold at 56.5k)
2013 ~ 2014 Bajaj Discover 100 4G (Sold at 16.5k)
2015 ~ 2017 TVS Wego (Totaled at 18k)
2015 - Bajaj Pulsar 220F (Currently 31k) < Garage Queen!
2017 - Bajaj CT100B (Currently 21k) < 'Golden Quadrilateral' Runner!
The Ride was Good, but Life is short, spend it Wisely!
Adios Comrades!
A.P. 2018
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Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences
How's your 220 is it a smooth bike, i always liked the bike but ended up buying hornet [emoji23][emoji23]Originally posted by ashwinprakas View PostIndeed it is, I doubt you'd get anything more feature packed and safer at that price point.
But personally, it is not my cup of tea, I thrash my motorcycles hard and I doubt anything with liquid cooling and fuel injection can survive a good thrashing. And even if I'm careful I would end up dropping the motorcycle once in a while due to the nature of riding and something so modern like the Dominar doesn't inspire much confidence.
If I were looking for safety then I'd consider the RTR200V4 ABS or the RTR180 ABS they also come with BOSCH dual channel ABS kits that offer commendable performance and are available with Carburettor fuelling and air cooling which is more abuse friendly than FI and LC, plus the Suzuki derived based motor has commendable lineage compared to the KTM derived motor of the Dominar.
And counter to what the advertisements say, touring is not about how fast you can go, but rather for how long you can maintain a given speed consistently, which is why some riders here tour close to 1000 km's a day on their 100cc motorcycles whereas some 1000cc touring motorcyclists barely do a 100 km's a day, so in fact it has more to do with the rider than the ride.
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Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences
The P220 is not a smooth motorcycle, it is cheap, durable and the after-sales support inspires long-term ownership. The motorcycle absolutely lacks finesse but gets the job done without fail.Originally posted by #bpk View PostHow's your 220 is it a smooth bike, i always liked the bike but ended up buying hornet [emoji23][emoji23]
Since you're finding it hard to live with the Hornet I'd suggest you stay away from a Pulsar, because a Pulsar is hard to live with for most enthusiasts who're into keeping their motorcycles in tip-top condition, because there is no perfect state for a Pulsar, it is always noisy and vibey compared to a Honda, and the vibrations are out of this world in comparison to any Honda.
Rather than think about replacing the motorcycle I would suggest you get yourself a decent toolbox and start working on your own motorcycle and ride even more, though not exciting on the highways I would any day opt for a Honda for trail riding due to the way they put down torque, you might crack a few panels in the process but you'll make memories for a lifetime, plus I love scratches and scuffs on my motorcycle, it's like something someone told me a while ago, "Every scratch is a decal with a story." which I believe is true.
Motorcycling Experience:
2000 ~ 2017 Y2K Kinetic Zoom (Disposed at 15k)
2011 ~ 2015 Hero Honda Karizma R (Sold at 56.5k)
2013 ~ 2014 Bajaj Discover 100 4G (Sold at 16.5k)
2015 ~ 2017 TVS Wego (Totaled at 18k)
2015 - Bajaj Pulsar 220F (Currently 31k) < Garage Queen!
2017 - Bajaj CT100B (Currently 21k) < 'Golden Quadrilateral' Runner!
The Ride was Good, but Life is short, spend it Wisely!
Adios Comrades!
A.P. 2018
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Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences
Hi, I returned yesterday from my 2300 kms solo trip over my 4 months old hornet. Did two 12 hour journeys with 730 kms a day from Hyderabad to Mysore. I've also taken it from Mysore to Bandipur to ooty through the hairpins, back to Mysore though gudaloor on twisty hill roads. The next day to Coorg through heavy rains with a pillion. The bike kept up very well. Although at very cold temperatures at higher alritudes due to heavy rains, it seemed a bit harsh. That wouldn't be a problem if carb is tuned according to the altitude and warmed up sufficiently. It was continuously exposed to rains as I stayed at my friend's flat which didn't have enough parking space qt night and daytime, all day long in rainy forest and hill roads. Rode across long forest roads, twisties, bad roads, harsh rainy crosswinds and the bike performed really very well. The best part is the highway stability. I was able to do 110 plus speeds for really very long stretches and absolutely no botherable vibrations. It felt so stable from 92 kms with a feeling of doing 40 kmph. I just took two 15 minutes breaks after Kurnool and at the outskirts of Bangalore. Bike didn't feel stressed even after such long stretches and trust me, the heating is only in city rides. We can take it for long stretches without any heating problems on highways.Originally posted by #bpk View PostHi , then which motorcycle brand will give an even smoothness and performance please tell me. Should i trust yamaha, suzuki, tvs over honda and bajaj as my next motorcycle upgrade.
I'm so very much in love with my bike after this ride. We just need to maintain it well. Chain maintenance, sufficient warm up and engine oil maintenance. I had minor niggles too before I had this trip, but now they don't matter me at all. If hornets had any problems in the initial deployment it'd have been sorted out long ago. We don't need to think much, it's still a Honda. It's here to stay.[emoji16]
Below are few images from the trip. [emoji16] [emoji16]
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Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences
I know it is OT, but the newer pulsars post 2012 are damn smooth IMHO. I remember it putting my unicorn to shame. I love that typical pulsar whine for some unknown reason. Every spare is available at local spare shops (eg. I got a UG3 P150 front sprocket at a local spares shop for just 93 Rupees). I'm only going for the FZ25 due to FI and the comfort it provides.Originally posted by ashwinprakas View PostThe P220 is not a smooth motorcycle, it is cheap, durable and the after-sales support inspires long-term ownership. The motorcycle absolutely lacks finesse but gets the job done without fail.
[MENTION=98329]#bpk[/MENTION] give it some time, it should smoothen out. Almost all the issues I mentioned earlier (and what [MENTION=87391]ZZR1[/MENTION] mentioned) are applicable only to the older hornets from 2016. I'm pretty sure once you cross the 6000-8000kms mark, you'll be satisfied.Originally posted by #bpk View PostHi , then which motorcycle brand will give an even smoothness and performance please tell me. Should i trust yamaha, suzuki, tvs over honda and bajaj as my next motorcycle upgrade.
Also you've crossed the 1500km mark, stop babying the bike. Ride normally and ride it hard once in a while. Accelerate gradually to 7k rpm in each gear.Last edited by Shashank K R; 08-19-2018, 01:50 AM.
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Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences
If you guys want to compare P150 with Hornet, there are a few points to consider here. What I write below are solely based on personal experience and not factual/fictional.
1. Service and Availability: Pulsar spares are cheap, widely available and popular due to it being a time-tested and popular bike for a decade and half. It's easy to repair and light on pockets. Quality control is an issue with Bajaj though. I've seen people having frequent issues with chain and disks on harsh usage. Hornet on the other hand is opposite. I wouldn't recommend servicing it with random local mechanics. It requires precision and the spares are rather costly and take some good finding. Not to mention that Hornet can take the heavy and harsh usage which you throw at it. It'll outlive the Pulsar and won't disappoint you. I guess that's a premium you pay for owning a japanese motorcycle.
2. Power, refinement and VFM: Pulsar is a rev-happy bike whereas the Hornet relies on smooth power delivery. Pulsar is noisy, harsh and vibey but the sound doesn't feel bad at all. One can easily get used to it. Power delivery is constant in the rev range and takes less time than Hornet to reach the top speed. Hornet isn't noisy and harsh at all. Most of the times you don't feel the engine cranking up. Hornet does take a bit of time to reach it's top speed. Once again, refinement here > top speed. VFM? Well, with the application of GST the price of P150 sky-rocketed here. Almost at 80k, ex-showroom. Hornet with the rear disk is about 87 to 88k here. If you're into more afford-ability, Pulsar might be the bike to go for. If you can shell the extra few thousands for quality, pick the damn Hornet.
3. Ergonomics & Safety: Pulsar has a straight riding position compared to Hornet's semi-sporty position which takes a bit of time to get used to. The riding dynamics on Pulsar are more comfortable and the center of gravity is more maintained on Pulsar. But safety, yeah well the skinny tires and lack of good bite from the rear brake isn't confidence inspiring. Those drum brakes are terrible even for drum brakes. The tyres skid more often than I can count. Hornet doesn't lack on this aspect. The MRF Zappers on Hornet take sure that you don't fall when panic braking, unless you're foolhardy enough to brake in-midst of sand. The disk on Hornet feels more safer to use and the rear brake is better compared to Pulsar. Only downside I see on Hornet is that the rear drum takes a lot of regular tightening just like the chain.[My Motorcycles]
2019 - Honda xBlade Non-ABS (2018)
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Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences
My bike is smooth, but i expected honda aviator kind of smoothness, when i rev my aviator my aviator becomes more smooth and runs like butter, i expected same but lets see till now I've clocked 1300 kilometers on my hornet only .Originally posted by ashwinprakas View PostThe P220 is not a smooth motorcycle, it is cheap, durable and the after-sales support inspires long-term ownership. The motorcycle absolutely lacks finesse but gets the job done without fail.
Since you're finding it hard to live with the Hornet I'd suggest you stay away from a Pulsar, because a Pulsar is hard to live with for most enthusiasts who're into keeping their motorcycles in tip-top condition, because there is no perfect state for a Pulsar, it is always noisy and vibey compared to a Honda, and the vibrations are out of this world in comparison to any Honda.
Rather than think about replacing the motorcycle I would suggest you get yourself a decent toolbox and start working on your own motorcycle and ride even more, though not exciting on the highways I would any day opt for a Honda for trail riding due to the way they put down torque, you might crack a few panels in the process but you'll make memories for a lifetime, plus I love scratches and scuffs on my motorcycle, it's like something someone told me a while ago, "Every scratch is a decal with a story." which I believe is true.
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