Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V Ownership Experience

Only old version. Not for 2.0

Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V Ownership Experience

Hi guys,

I got delivery of RTR200-R2 - Black ( Carburettor )version last week. But just noticed there is nor ART sticker at the bottom of Engine guard. Whereas when i test drove vehicle was having it.. Any idea on this?

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revz s are perfect for daily commuting and touring brother. I have been using them as stock tires on my R15 and it has done about 24 thousand kms. The average life of these is about 30 thousand kms, depending on how hard you ride the bike and how hard you brake. They provide very good dry and wet grip and I have never felt the need of a grippier tires on my day to day commuting and occasional touring. Of course if you regularly go for track days, you might feel the need of a little more grip.


The Pirrelli sport demons are soft compound rubber which is provide excellent grip, but the life of the tire will be less. A soft compound tire is also more prone to punctures, as even small wires and nails can easily pierce the soft rubber and cause puncture. Punctures depend on pure chance and luck, but given the worst conditions of out roads, they really are more prone to damage and cuts.

My advise would be to choose the Pirellis if you do regular track days and feel that your current set of rubber is not enough for you. You will need to replace the tire sooner, but it will provide the grip you need. If (like me), you use the bike for normal day to day commuting and touring, the zappers will do just fine. Cheers

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Yes, some service centers employ morons who polish the bikes after the service. These guys apply liberal amounts of wax polish to each and every surface of the bike including the disc brake rotors. That wax takes a long time to burn off the disc, usually about 100 kms. To speed up the process, wash the rotor with hot water and really harsh detergent. I have found that Vim bar (soap used to wash utensils) and surf excel does help in removing the wax a bit sooner. Use really hot water and then scrub the rotor with scorch brite and Vim, then rinse off with really hot water. Do this about 2 times and your brakes will start working in about 2-3 days.
Please ride carefully till you get the full brake force back. Cheers.

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Thanks for sharing this information. Same thing happened last time also during 2nd service. I told them about this loss of braking power while taking delivery. Then after two attempts, rear brake started working fine. But they couldn't fix the front brake. Since then I haven't really got that bite in the front brake.

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Brother, ideally the bite of the brakes is back after about a week of riding or in about 100-120 kms. But if the brakes still don't work after such a long time, then there is a reason for worry. If the brake pads were recently changed, check if the brake oil is up to proper level. If pads are not replaced, check if the they are worn out. Make sure that you note the condition of the brake pads before you give the bike for servicing and then check them once it is back form the service. Many service center guys swap your new pads with worn out pads and that might reduce the braking capabilities.

If all seems fine, then you might have air bubbles trapped in the brake fluid, that makes the brakes spongy and weak, you will have to bleed the brake lines to get the bite back. Its fairly easy and there are lots of tutorials on you tube.

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Hey guys !

Finally after quite a looong wait, I got my v1.0 ABS delivered on Saturday.

This is going to a long post !

Friday: I had inspected the bike, went for the ride the day before deliver and ok-ed it for deliver on Saturday. The payment of 1.38L was complete and had informed that I will be coming on Saturday to take the delivery.

Saturday: I had reached the showroom at the decided time and the delivery experience was quite good. Got the owners manual, insurance papers. signed on RTO forms and the delivery undertaking. They also explained about the service schedule. WAs told that the bike invoice will be given along with the bike number once it's registered in 3-4 days.. is this normal ?

Took the bike for the usual pooja and went to college. They had provided about 1L of petrol after delivery. Filled About 10-11 L of petrol at shell .After about 20km, noticed that the speed reading has stopped the message check speed sensor started showing. Same afternoon visited the showroom and was redirected to the service people.

They did various checks and after about 60-90 minutes told that they required more time to check the complete wiring and requested to leave the bike and collect the bike on Monday evening as the complete check will take a long time.

Escalated the issue to the showroom owner who then had a chat with the service incharge, they replaced the speed sensor and the message disappeared and all was good.

Read the owners manual about the ABS system and found out how the ABS warning light functions.

On battery ON, the ABS light will be flashing continually and once bike crosses about 5km/h the flashing stops and all is good. if not the ABS light remains on continuously.

As I did not check this point, wanted to check this the next day.

Sunday: Found that there was a fault I my ABS system as the light was continuously ON. Confirmed this my hard braking the rear wheel on a sandy surface and the rear wheel was indeed locking.

Visited the showroom people again expressed my dis satisfaction about how a new bike can get 2 such critical issues, as service centre is closed on Saturday, was told to leave the bike in Monday.

Felt very bad and parents also were not satisfied with my bike choice as they wanted me to buy a Gixxer as it was a more common and "visible on the road" bike.

Various options had run through my mind about the situation so as to what can be done. Options such as giving the service people time till Monday and escalating the issue to showroom owner, if not wait till Wednesday and press for a bike replacement as registration procedures were not yet complete/started.

Monday: was first at the service centre @8:30 and confirmed the the service in charge understands the issue. Was promised a quick resolution on the same day.
@11 called them and was informed that, as the speed sensor was replaced, the ABS ecu had to be recalibrated or reflashed which was not done on Saturday. Once that was completed it was functioning normally. Rushed from office at maratahalli to home which was a distance of 24 km in the afternoon heat and verified that the issue is resolved. Was offered an apology along with the above explanation of the steps to solve the problem.

Verified by hard braking on a sandy surface and the rear brake doesn't lock Anymore. Now as soon as ignition is ON, the ABS light flashes ON and OFF and once the bike reaches a speed of 5-7km/h the ABS light stops flashing.

Rode the bike to office and back home and no other issues were observed today !
The bike is a real joy to ride as my previous vehicle was an activa! Purposely stayed late in office to check the effectiveness of the 60w headlight on Apache as compared to the 35w one on the activa. The spread and illumination was real good and very satisfied with it !

As of now, completed 150km, and shifting the gears at 4000 rpm and set the shift light accordingly. I would like to know if the rpm can me raised a little to 5000 or I'll gradually increase the rpm by 500's for every 500 Kms !

Thanks for reading !

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Congratulations Praneeth!

Ride safe.

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Congratulations!
My friend's 180 ABS had this same problem at the time of delivery & it was due to the loose wiring at the ABS module. The ABS won't work if the module & the pulsator along with the speed sensor don't work in sync.

5000 rpm limit is fine for the run in period 👍

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Hello,

I have covered 27K+ kms without any issues untill recently, when I had the first breakdown. Upon investigation it seems the shaft connecting front sprocket has worn out due to which there is no movement in front sprocket and the bike has become pretty much useless. Long story short, I am not able to get the part anywhere in Pune.

Can someone please help me in getting the part, its been 2 weeks now and I am not able to use the bike

Regards
Juzar

P.S. I was not expecting such kind of issues in the bike, my trusted mechanic tells me that he has seen this issue in other 2-3 bikes as well. If this is the case then least TVS can do is make that part available easily.

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I have completed 28K + kms till now nothing major till now with the engine. What is normal life for Chain and sprockets? I think i need to replace the same now nothing as such a problem but the chain has become a bit rough now i have lubed it properly but i can feel the roughness in the chain. Tyres are also the original ones Remora, i am thinking of changing the same before the rains. Air filter i have changed to Oval or round filter i.e after market ones.
For chain cleaning you need to clean the front sprocket atleast once in 6 month depending on the Kms you travel. You need to open the front sprocket cover before pressure wash and then get it diesel washed so all the dirt will be cleaned and than lube the same. It increases the life of Sprocket and chain.
I also need to replace the Silencer as it has started to make the torn noise again like last time. No use of telling the same to service center as they are useless. Much better i will go for replacement.

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My Apache sticker on the right side of the tank cover is peeled off, it is making my bike look ugly. I believe it is done by kids around my near by houses.
Where can i get the apache sticker, does svc has this, or can i place an order in SVC.

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Anyone got the delivery of Apache 200 ABS in Bhubaneshwar? I have booked it in March 4 and the showroom guys have no clue when the bike will be arriving to the showroom. Should I go with the base model or should I wait couple more days?Ps. There's no urgency in getting the bike I am still riding my Dad's bike.

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I have been watching this thread for quite some time now(read the whole thread). After taking a test drive of many vehicles, I finally decided to go in for the RTR 200 4V Race Edition 2.0 abs. I booked the vehicle on 14th of April and the dealer informed me that the waiting period is 1 month. On the 23rd I got a call from him saying my vehicle has arrived. I was very excited and I got it delivered(from Century TVS Pune) the day before yesterday. The RTR 200 is just a joy to ride, but a bit harder for me to control as I've been driving a TVS Jive for the past 4-5 years.

Here are some pics:





If some of you were wondering, my bike does not have the abs label on the front near the forks as shown on the company website. When I asked the dealer about it, he showed me the abs wire and ring which were not present on the other RTR 200s that he had. The dealer showed me the manufacturing label on the rear tire hugger that had "RTR 200 4V R 2.0 abs" written on it. I also cross verified it with the company helpline which directed me to the sales head of my area and he confirmed this. And yes the abs light blinks continuously until I reach 5 kmph.

I had some questions to ask:

1. The bike feels a bit viby especially in the 3rd gear. Is this normal for new bikes?
2. The gearbox makes a bit of noise when shifting between 1st and 2nd gear. Is this normal?
3. I did a mileage check yesterday and I got an average of around 23 kmpl. Will it increase after a few days or after the first service?
4. I took the bike to a high area which had a bit of a steep climb(only around 700 meters long) yesterday(the second day after getting the bike). I made sure the rpm stayed under 5000. Also I had a pillion on board.This shouldn't have damaged the engine right?

Also give me suggestions on what other precautions I have to take during the run-in period.

TVS Apache RTR 200 4V Ownership Experience

Congrats in the first place...
And:
1. When compared to smaller bikes larger engines will be vibey at slow speeds but it’ll be lot smoother at high speeds. So Wait till the run in. Ride below 5000rpm for first 1000kms.
2. If it’s noisy at normal speeds it’s not right. Check the clutch play and chain slackness. But wait till run-in may be the clearances will be very close.
3. Any vehicle after run-in will give better average. But the figure you’ve mentioned is too low. It’ll return an average above 32kmpl at a worst case otherwise it’s ridden hard. Please check it again with a test can to ensure this.
4. It won’t do any harm because the engine had not taken to it’s limits. No engine is made that weak.

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Hey man congratulations, did you enquire about other colours in the abs variant, or do we get black only. Also can you post pictures of the tyre hugger with the abs sticker and the abs rings on the tyres(look for abs ring on Google images to get an idea of what it looks like)