Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V Ownership Experience

Check your owner's manual, you will find what you need to check for the second service. Carry that with you and compare it with the bill if those checks or replacements are done, moreover go for a test ride, rev your engine high and also brake harder if you can to find any abnormal differences on your bike. Importantly ask the svc to show the replaced parts if done, probably no replacement in the 2nd service as far as I know. Initially the brakes will be spongy or slippery because they are washed, you'll get back the bite after about 10-20 kms of riding.

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This robust little beast has clocked 10,000 kilometres without any failures. From the neverending highways to miserable potholes, and few memorable track sessions, this boy can do it all! The motorcycle is built to last but alas the vibrations and the top end. Anything from 0-100 he'll keep you up and running!

That's my full take on this motorcycle do give it read! - https://themotojojo.wordpress.com/20...pache-rtr-200/

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Can I convert carb into fuel injection?

With the fuel injected RTR now released I'm dying to convert my carb RTR 200 to Fi. Where should I start? I'm willing to spend anything and do anything for it. Please advice me how to do it and what all I should buy. The cold starts are so annoying!

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Awesome review bro! Great work! very nice photographs and details. I have a similar rather comprehensive review on my RTR 200, I planned to write it including what all other reviewers have missed. Please do give it a read. It's rather long though. So be patient. I hope I receive all support from my fellow RTR Xbhpians. Thank you!

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Hi!

Thanks for the valuable suggestion.

I have been riding for 1 month but I am still confused with the response ABS gives back under hard braking.

Is it really like what I have felt is like a little kick in the rear brake pedal under hard braking. Is it really like this ..... actually it is a little uncomfortable, it diverts mind. Actually, it feels like something has hit from the downside of the brake pedal.

Same is with the front brake lever .....felt like it hits back a little while a hard braking.

Can anyone confirm that its okay?

I have not driven an ABS bike earlier and this one I bought for this reason only.

I have read that Bikes with ABS does not skid in hard braking.....but I manage to make it skid a little everytime when I stopped abruptly.


Please share your experience with ABS bikes.

Thanks and Regards

coil problem in apache rtr200 4v

i own apache rtr200 for the past 18months. i have completed 15000kms last month.Since then, i had coil problem in which the spark plug did not receive enough power eventually my bike could not rum beyond 6000rpm. this made a huge trouble when i was on a trip. then after servicing the bike in TVS sercive centre after 15 days i am getting the same problem . they mentioned that coil magnet is changed. but even then the problem persisted. i read a few people having the same problem at some ppint of time. any solution for this problem ?. Trusting TVS quality was my mistake. #needhelp.

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Well written!!! Even now there is no news about the FI variant. I thought after their announcement in November '17 on FI availability, it would be very easily available. But till date the dealers are clueless on the availability. Heard some stocks coming in April, but then the new Slipper Clutch version had been announced. I am almost fed up and tired of waiting. My 9-year old Apache 160 FI has started giving problems and is costing me money. Thinking of going for FZ25 or Dominar...

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Thank you Prashant! Thanks for reading!

BTW, do you happen to know how to make this change from the carb to Fi for the RTR 200? Or are you telling me not to do the swap? I suppose 9 years is a lot of time for the bike and Fi issues can come up, but cold starts put a lot of wear on the engine and I definitely don't want that to happen. I know its a total pain to do it and one might even need to switch the fuel tank to make it happen, but I'm willing to do it. That will make my RTR 200 perfect in every sense. However I suppose tier 1 cities like chennai and bengaluru might have RTR 200 Fi. At least that is what I heard from some friends.

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Yes ABS bikes tend to give that feedback back it's natural to feel pressure while hard braking on the levers and the pedal. All ABS bikes have it.

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Sorry Clone, no experience in modification department. I understand your pain with cold starts and FI is the solution for this. I have never faced any problems with starts. Only time you should worry is when you have a problems with Battery drain or short in wiring.

Don't you think it would be easier to sell off your current Carb variant and buy FI Variant when (and if) it launches??? You won't have to go through the trouble of modifications and future problems cropping up due to those modifications. It would be cost-effective too. You would get a stock FI bike from TVS, under warranty!!!

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Haha never actually thought about that lol. but it will be hard to let go my ride I love her lol. Anyway since you thought about getting the FZ-25, I would say it's no fun to ride. Sucks terribly at corners when compared to the RTR 200. Get it if you are only planning to commute or if mileage and Fi are concerns. The dominar is another segment though.

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Hi!

Thanks for a swift reply.

So, How much can I rely on the ABS? Still, when I brake hard tires do skid a little. For once I even had a little longer wheel lock when I was on the sandy part of roadside in the traffic.

In short, Is there any way I can get to know my bike's ABS is working fine?

Thanks

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Firstly you need to understand what ABS is and what it is for.

When you brake very hard on a vehicle/ motorcycle without ABS after coming in with a high speed, your wheels will be stopped from rotating by the brakes. However your momentum is not equal to zero. This means that the inertia will continue and you'll slide/skid the rest of the way/ get thrown off the bike because your wheels are not rotating. Normally in such a condition, you cannot avoid a collision with the object because you have no control over your bike. Why? Because the wheels aren't rotating.

ABS will apply brakes many times a second in parts so that the wheel keeps rotating and you will be able to control your bike from collision with the object.

ABS is intended to allow you to manoeuvre around an object even under hard braking so that you won't be thrown out of the bike/ hit the object when you're coming at a high speed. As a consequence if you consider braking distance on a straight line for both ABS and non-ABS variants, the ABS variant will require more distance to stop because the wheels take longer to come to a stop.

ABS will not work if your speed is below a certain threshold say maybe 10-20 kmph and in gravel/sand etc where the tyres lose traction and the ability to rotate.

So all your current wheel locks must've occurred when you applied brakes below that threshold speed (for example, suddenly applying brakes while inching through traffic to save you from hitting the bumper of a car in front will lock your tyres)

If you are still in doubt, get your ride checked at the service station they'll examine if all the sensors and pump are working fine. Additionally you can do this if you wish for peace of mind.

Sheesh. That took 15 mins!

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So I met an A 200 rider during morning tea at the local stall and asked for his feedback about the bike.
He did say that the bike is nice to ride in city and he had done 22K kms on it since. He had the displeasure of having to replace the chain sprocket twice, 2nd time was done under warranty.
He did tell that it depends a lot on the kind of service center you give the bike in which is a hit or a miss.
City rides with very easy throttle gives 35ish kmpl and highways give about 40ish. His was the basic model and from 1st gen.

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Well said pal... and also whenever the abs system is on work there will be a pulsating feedback on the lever or pedal. The magnitude of the pulse depends upon the level of slip at the wheels during braking. Whenever the wheel locks the abs will release and apply the brakes multiple times per second to avoid losing traction or skidding. Thus it creates pulsating feedback on the user end.

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Thanks for clearing my doubt that too in detail.

I was facing this problem in the speed limit < 20km/hr.

However, this time they have done a fabulous service ..... bike has become so smooth .....that I am wondering if they have added something new to it.
For ABS they checked and told me .....if you ever see the ABS icon blinking when you are riding or it is off or continuously on while you are on standby, that only consider your ABS not working.

I have topped 122 km/hr with a pillion feeling confident and in control .....it is a hell of a performance from an indigenously developed 200cc bike .

I am loving it.

Cheers guys.

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Upon ignition, the ABS light will be continuously blinking, once you cross a speed of 5km/h the light has to be off.

If at all the ABS light is continuously ON, get it checked.

I had the same issue with ABS when I had gotten my speed sensor replaced. The light was continuously ON. The service centre checked and fixed it !!