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**burnoutdee** · 05-27-2019, 12:02 AM

Re: Yamaha FZ 25 Owners Reviews and Experiences

Originally posted by slopegatri View Post

Try riding another new bike, if noise is much lower or different, you can go for replacement but if both bikes have same amount of noise As long as performance is good and wear and tear is normal. don't change anything. just do regular service and maintenance and bike will last long. don't do unnecessary mods. also stick to Recommended Yamalube oil and change it every 2000/2500km instead of using fancy engine oil for 4000-5000km.

Yes, this is exactly my plan. But am not going to try any other bike as of now because I am feeling there's nothing wrong with the bike it's just what you said it is. But I will certainly keep them in loop so I get proper support in future. Also, am gonna stick to Yamalube as I have checked a lot of other options in other forums n based on mixed opinions i feel it's better to stick to basics.
You helped alot [MENTION=91784]slopegatri[/MENTION] to cope with this issue, i can't thank you enough.

**B7ACKTHORN** · 05-27-2019, 03:43 PM

Re: Yamaha FZ 25 Owners Reviews and Experiences

Originally posted by GandalfTheGrey View Post

Hello mates,

Hope y'all are doing good. I gave my bike for 15k service and seems my chain sprocket is loosing its life and will last only for next 2k or so. Advisor says it'll cost close to 4k for replacement. Only for the past 6 months, I and my colleague are traveling to office often in my bike and the total weight of rider and pillion comes close to 210kgs.
So my question is: whether overloading of bike is one of the causes for the issue? Thanks for your responses in advance!

Cheers!

Yes. There is a reason why the manual mentions the load factor. Too much load, and the drive train takes the load, i.e. chain and sprockets. Too much loads compress and expand the chain causing it to wear faster. Top this up with a tighter chain, too much weight and crappy roads, your chain/sprocket will get eaten up even faster. There is a reason why manufacturers recommend having the right chain slack and right load.

Cheers!
VJ

**roadrunner10** · 05-30-2019, 05:25 PM

Re: Yamaha FZ 25 Owners Reviews and Experiences

Hi,
I own FZ25 ABS. The suggested oil grade in manual is 10W40 JASO MA Certified. It does not say Synthetic/Semi-synthetic/Mineral. The problem I am facing is with Yamalube Synthetic 10W40 oil which service center put in. The Yamalube loses its consistency/quality within 800 - 1000 kms. I changed the oil a month back in first service and it already is not up to the mark within 900 kms. The same issue I faced for the original oil which was there when I bought the bike 2 months back.

Now I want to change oil on my own and I do not want to go back to Yamalube. The option I am considering are Shell AX7 (Synthetic blend) as its available in 10W40 and fits in budget as well. However, I am not sure about putting AX7 in FZ25. I checked Motul as well, there is no semi-synth in 10W40. The synthetic oils in 10W40 (all brands) are very expensive or at least I feel them as expensive. Can someone give me expert advice for AX7. Or should I opt for FS oil.

Note-I have been using Shell AX7 for my ZMR and Super Splendor and there absolutely no issues. Both bikes are very smooth. I use Shell HX7 (semi-synth) for Santro and there are absolutely no issues. In other words I trust Shell semi-synth for all my rides.

**truelypulsarian** · 05-30-2019, 06:02 PM

Re: Yamaha FZ 25 Owners Reviews and Experiences

Originally posted by roadrunner10 View Post

Hi,
I own FZ25 ABS. The suggested oil grade in manual is 10W40 JASO MA Certified. It does not say Synthetic/Semi-synthetic/Mineral. The problem I am facing is with Yamalube Synthetic 10W40 oil which service center put in. The Yamalube loses its consistency/quality within 800 - 1000 kms. I changed the oil a month back in first service and it already is not up to the mark within 900 kms. The same issue I faced for the original oil which was there when I bought the bike 2 months back.

Now I want to change oil on my own and I do not want to go back to Yamalube. The option I am considering are Shell AX7 (Synthetic blend) as its available in 10W40 and fits in budget as well. However, I am not sure about putting AX7 in FZ25. I checked Motul as well, there is no semi-synth in 10W40. The synthetic oils in 10W40 (all brands) are very expensive or at least I feel them as expensive. Can someone give me expert advice for AX7. Or should I opt for FS oil.

Note-I have been using Shell AX7 for my ZMR and Super Splendor and there absolutely no issues. Both bikes are very smooth. I use Shell HX7 (semi-synth) for Santro and there are absolutely no issues. In other words I trust Shell semi-synth for all my rides.

Yes the yamalube is the worst oil it looses its viscosity very early. You can use liquimoly oils they are the best ones you can get right now.
Does the 2019(ABS) new bikes also suffer from the engine noise like the old ones???

**burnoutdee** · 05-30-2019, 09:54 PM

Re: Yamaha FZ 25 Owners Reviews and Experiences

Originally posted by truelypulsarian View Post

Yes the yamalube is the worst oil it looses its viscosity very early. You can use liquimoly oils they are the best ones you can get right now.
Does the 2019(ABS) new bikes also suffer from the engine noise like the old ones???

Engine Noise : 2019 Fazer 25, yes.

Why do you feel Yamalube is not good? I have heard a lot of positive reviews about it esp. from R15 owners.

**vanp** · 05-30-2019, 11:21 PM

Re: Yamaha FZ 25 Owners Reviews and Experiences

Originally posted by burnoutdee View Post

Engine Noise : 2019 Fazer 25, yes.

Why do you feel Yamalube is not good? I have heard a lot of positive reviews about it esp. from R15 owners.

i have also had bad experience with yamalube.. it loses its viscosity very early.. i am currently using the optima prime mineral oil.. and after 400-500 kms it has lost its viscosity.. now engine overheats very fast with hard shifts and rattling noise..

**truelypulsarian** · 05-30-2019, 11:22 PM

Yamaha FZ 25 Owners Reviews and Experiences

Originally posted by burnoutdee View Post

Engine Noise : 2019 Fazer 25, yes.

Why do you feel Yamalube is not good? I have heard a lot of positive reviews about it esp. from R15 owners.

So all the yamaha bikes are bit noisy. The yamalube sporty premium is good but the optima prime which they fill as the stock oil in FZ sucks to the core. It will be good for only 700Kms MAX after that the engine becomes rough and the gear shifts also becomes hard.
Even the engine screams a lot after crossing 75KMPH.
Are you talking about SPORTY PREMIUM or OPTIMA PRIME??.

**burnoutdee** · 05-30-2019, 11:56 PM

Re: Yamaha FZ 25 Owners Reviews and Experiences

Originally posted by truelypulsarian View Post

So all the yamaha bikes are bit noisy. The yamalube sporty premium is good but the optima prime which they fill as the stock oil in FZ sucks to the core. It will be good for only 700Kms MAX after that the engine becomes rough and the gear shifts also becomes hard.
Even the engine screams a lot after crossing 75KMPH.
Are you talking about SPORTY PREMIUM or OPTIMA PRIME??.

I wouldn't know to be honest as at that time I was a Honda person & used Shell Advance for my Impulse. This is my first Yamaha, about noise I have come to know it's just balancer gear n nothing serious. I just got the first service done n put the stock Yamalube oil... Gear shifting has become butter smooth but let's see if I experience what you are talking about.

**Shashank K R** · 05-31-2019, 01:48 AM

Re: Yamaha FZ 25 Owners Reviews and Experiences

Originally posted by roadrunner10 View Post

Now I want to change oil on my own and I do not want to go back to Yamalube. The option I am considering are Shell AX7 (Synthetic blend) as its available in 10W40 and fits in budget as well. However, I am not sure about putting AX7 in FZ25. I checked Motul as well, there is no semi-synth in 10W40.

There's very less difference between Yamalube and the oils mentioned. You can use AX7 if you want, it'll work fine.

I'm currently using Motul 5100 which is a semi-synthetic oil.

As per my experience (mostly in traffic on dusty roads and small highway trips at 100-110kmph), Yamalube lasts around 2-2.5k kms, AX7 lasted 2k and 5100 lasted 3k.

There's barely any difference in performance and smoothness, although with Yamalube the rattling noise was a bit more apparent after spirited rides.

Do this and see if it makes any difference - when starting the bike after a period of rest (say overnight or after your shift ends), let it warm up for around 30 seconds. For the first 1-2kms, ride the bike as if it's in the run-in period.

Another thing to note is that till 7-8k kms, the bike may feel rough, noisy and "tight". You may want to ride more before starting to experiment.

**roadrunner10** · 05-31-2019, 09:57 AM

Re: Yamaha FZ 25 Owners Reviews and Experiences

Originally posted by truelypulsarian View Post

Yes the yamalube is the worst oil it looses its viscosity very early. You can use liquimoly oils they are the best ones you can get right now.
Does the 2019(ABS) new bikes also suffer from the engine noise like the old ones???

There is no engine noise in V3. The engine is very smooth. However, because of the Yamalube it feels noisy. Post oil change, immediately the engine feel very smooth and noise free.

Originally posted by burnoutdee View Post

Engine Noise : 2019 Fazer 25, yes.

Why do you feel Yamalube is not good? I have heard a lot of positive reviews about it esp. from R15 owners.

This is my first Yamaha. I have owned other bikes though. The lubes from hero honda were very good as OEM ones. But the Yamalube is losing its consictency in 800 kms is very evident on my bike. I can feel lots of vibrations at 50kmph to 70 kmph (3000 to 5000 rpm range) which was not the case in first 500 kms after oil change.

Originally posted by truelypulsarian View Post

So all the yamaha bikes are bit noisy. The yamalube sporty premium is good but the optima prime which they fill as the stock oil in FZ sucks to the core. It will be good for only 700Kms MAX after that the engine becomes rough and the gear shifts also becomes hard.
Even the engine screams a lot after crossing 75KMPH.
Are you talking about SPORTY PREMIUM or OPTIMA PRIME??.

FZ25 use Sporty Premium. Optima Prime is for FZ.

Originally posted by Shashank K R View Post

Do this and see if it makes any difference - when starting the bike after a period of rest (say overnight or after your shift ends), let it warm up for around 30 seconds. For the first 1-2kms, ride the bike as if it's in the run-in period.

I do warmup the bike at every startup. I usually have only two startups in a day. One in morning and one evening. I do not have stop and go like have to turn off engine frequently. The warmup is usually when I put on my face mask and helmet which is approx 1 min. Also, the sane riding in first couple of kms does make difference. I do not follow it very religiously, but let me do that as a standard practice going ahead.

**truelypulsarian** · 05-31-2019, 12:48 PM

Re: Yamaha FZ 25 Owners Reviews and Experiences

Originally posted by Shashank K R View Post

There's very less difference between Yamalube and the oils mentioned. You can use AX7 if you want, it'll work fine.

I'm currently using Motul 5100 which is a semi-synthetic oil.

As per my experience (mostly in traffic on dusty roads and small highway trips at 100-110kmph), Yamalube lasts around 2-2.5k kms, AX7 lasted 2k and 5100 lasted 3k.

There's barely any difference in performance and smoothness, although with Yamalube the rattling noise was a bit more apparent after spirited rides.

Do this and see if it makes any difference - when starting the bike after a period of rest (say overnight or after your shift ends), let it warm up for around 30 seconds. For the first 1-2kms, ride the bike as if it's in the run-in period.

Another thing to note is that till 7-8k kms, the bike may feel rough, noisy and "tight". You may want to ride more before starting to experiment.

Shell AX7 is also very good alternative.
Also try LIQUIMOLY oils they are the best oils from germany.

**Vishal Rohra** · 05-31-2019, 07:28 PM

Re: Yamaha FZ 25 Owners Reviews and Experiences

I have been using Motul 7100 10w 50 for past 10000kms on my fz25 changed twice at 5000 kms , I am very happy witrh the result, it is better than stock oil
1) Oil lasts for 5000kms and still feels good
2) heat from the engine has reduced , I feel mush less heat while waiting at the signal while the bike idles
3) Gear shift is smoother than felt instock oil
Have been using Motul 7100 since 2013 on my Dazzler and for 5 years till i had the bike the engine performed very well due to this oil , I feel this oil is value for money as you get it in 1.5 litre pack for around 1000 on Amazon which is the exact quantity that we need , We have a Fz25 group in Mumbai and I think around 20 guys are using the same oil without any issues, The Motul V300 should pewrform better in terms of long highspeed highway runs but it is expensive and one has to buy 2 bottles of 1 litre as it is not avaliable in 1.5 litre
I am Sharing this information as per personal experience only
Thanks

**#bpk** · 05-31-2019, 10:19 PM

Re: Yamaha FZ 25 Owners Reviews and Experiences

Originally posted by Vishal Rohra View Post

I have been using Motul 7100 10w 50 for past 10000kms on my fz25 changed twice at 5000 kms , I am very happy witrh the result, it is better than stock oil
1) Oil lasts for 5000kms and still feels good
2) heat from the engine has reduced , I feel mush less heat while waiting at the signal while the bike idles
3) Gear shift is smoother than felt instock oil
Have been using Motul 7100 since 2013 on my Dazzler and for 5 years till i had the bike the engine performed very well due to this oil , I feel this oil is value for money as you get it in 1.5 litre pack for around 1000 on Amazon which is the exact quantity that we need , We have a Fz25 group in Mumbai and I think around 20 guys are using the same oil without any issues, The Motul V300 should pewrform better in terms of long highspeed highway runs but it is expensive and one has to buy 2 bottles of 1 litre as it is not avaliable in 1.5 litre
I am Sharing this information as per personal experience only
Thanks

Hi, which grade of oil is suitable for Honda engines? Which grade did u use in your dazzler?

**Vishal Rohra** · 06-01-2019, 12:08 PM

Re: Yamaha FZ 25 Owners Reviews and Experiences

Originally posted by #bpk View Post

Hi, which grade of oil is suitable for Honda engines? Which grade did u use in your dazzler?

I used 20w50 for dazzler,, use which matches the company specification

**#bpk** · 06-01-2019, 02:51 PM

Re: Yamaha FZ 25 Owners Reviews and Experiences

Originally posted by Vishal Rohra View Post

I used 20w50 for dazzler,, use which matches the company specification

Dazzler's recommended grade is 10w 30, isn't it? 20w 50 is for KTM's and BAJAJ's [emoji51]

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