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Re: 2017 Duke 390 Owners Reviews and Experiences
The passage leak was mild - yes, it can be inferred from the fact that every 400 - 500 km the coolant gets down from max to min mark in reservoir. Yes I will keep my observations posted here. For now the issue is tick tick sound for which I will take my bike to SVC soon. Will keep posted.Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View PostHero Honda Karizma -> RE Thunderbird 350 -> Duke 390 (current bike)
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Does anyone have this issuw?
If the bike turns off unexpectedly, let's say you release the clutch fast and the engine goes off. The oil pressure light turns on.
And it stays on as long as you don't move the bike, or you don't give gas. Moving the bike a few meters turns off the light for sure.
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I don't think that's an issue. It is normal behavior.Originally posted by slink21 View PostDoes anyone have this issuw?
If the bike turns off unexpectedly, let's say you release the clutch fast and the engine goes off. The oil pressure light turns on.
And it stays on as long as you don't move the bike, or you don't give gas. Moving the bike a few meters turns off the light for sure.Hero Honda Karizma -> RE Thunderbird 350 -> Duke 390 (current bike)
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I have the same feeling, it is not an issue.Originally posted by vinodpakath View PostI don't think that's an issue. It is normal behavior.
But I've contacted KTM and they told me to talk about it with my engineer. Of course, I have. But he didn't seem to know about it.
The thing is that the light stays on no matter how long you wait. You can have the light on for minutes if you don't move the bike.
The reason I'm calling this an issue, is because if there is an actual problem, you may stay with the bike on without noticing that the light didn't turn off when you moved the bike.
In case you turn on the bike ( the first time you do it when the bike was off normally) the light will turn on for the check and when the engine turns on it will go off in seconds without moving the bike. The scenario I'm describing is different.
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There have been cases where, the TFT throws tantrums w.r.t to oil pressure and it's sort of always been a sort of a unicorn issue where even after updates, pressure sensor replacements, the issue crops up. I personally feel it all has to with software programming, perhaps with an update. In the meantime, keep a tab on the oil level, just in case.Originally posted by slink21 View PostDoes anyone have this issuw?
If the bike turns off unexpectedly, let's say you release the clutch fast and the engine goes off. The oil pressure light turns on.
And it stays on as long as you don't move the bike, or you don't give gas. Moving the bike a few meters turns off the light for sure.
Cheers!
VJ
Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
The girl said, 'NO!'
And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.
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It doesn't have to do with the screen. It is the light on the side, there is no warning in the screen.Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View PostThere have been cases where, the TFT throws tantrums w.r.t to oil pressure and it's sort of always been a sort of a unicorn issue where even after updates, pressure sensor replacements, the issue crops up. I personally feel it all has to with software programming, perhaps with an update. In the meantime, keep a tab on the oil level, just in case.
Cheers!
VJ
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Right. For some it throws up an error on the screen and for some the light stays on for some time and randomly goes on and off. If you feel something's amiss, try replacing your pressure sensor. If after the replacement you have the same error displayed, have your TFT console updated to the newest firmware, v39.Originally posted by slink21 View PostIt doesn't have to do with the screen. It is the light on the side, there is no warning in the screen.
Cheers!
VJ
Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
The girl said, 'NO!'
And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.
THE END
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There are definitely some tantrums with this bike. The oil pressure turns ON for me while riding in bumper to bumper traffic while the speed is less than 15kmph. Once the speed increases the oil pressure sign vanishes. Hence I have stopped worrying about these indications. What I do is keep a close monitor on Coolant and engine oil level and condition. Sometimes conventional ways are much better these advanced sensors which are at times faulty.Originally posted by slink21 View PostIt doesn't have to do with the screen. It is the light on the side, there is no warning in the screen.Hero Honda Karizma -> RE Thunderbird 350 -> Duke 390 (current bike)
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On slow speeds i think i have seen it too in my bike, to turn on the oil presure light and it turns off if you increase the speed.Originally posted by vinodpakath View PostThere are definitely some tantrums with this bike. The oil pressure turns ON for me while riding in bumper to bumper traffic while the speed is less than 15kmph. Once the speed increases the oil pressure sign vanishes. Hence I have stopped worrying about these indications. What I do is keep a close monitor on Coolant and engine oil level and condition. Sometimes conventional ways are much better these advanced sensors which are at times faulty.
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It's a faulty sensor.. Get it replaced.. I did it and no more flashing of low oil pressureOriginally posted by slink21 View PostOn slow speeds i think i have seen it too in my bike, to turn on the oil presure light and it turns off if you increase the speed.
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Thanks for the answer.Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View PostRight. For some it throws up an error on the screen and for some the light stays on for some time and randomly goes on and off. If you feel something's amiss, try replacing your pressure sensor. If after the replacement you have the same error displayed, have your TFT console updated to the newest firmware, v39.
Cheers!
VJ
FYI i have the 5 V39 version
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I just saw that my mechanic removed and the other plastic part and he placed it in a plastic bag under the sheat.Originally posted by scapeghost View Postthanks, will get that fixed. Right now I got bigger problems though. Engine oil leak - engine is to be opened and all gaskets to be replaced :-(
I am pretty sure that you shouldn't worry about these no more.
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Is there any definite method of ascertaining whether the coolant has mixed with oil since visual inspection indicates the colour of oil as normal. I have also noticed significant drop in the coolant level after having ridden the bike for about 500 kms post the first service. Just want to make sure whether there is actually a coolant leak in the engine or there is some other issue. Don't want to go for the last option before being absolutely sure..Originally posted by vinodpakath View PostYes Definitely. So let me start from the beginning what all i went through in last 2 months of this issue. So soon after 1st service i was facing coolant vanishing issue. The coolant was reducing from max to min mark from the reservoir every 400 - 500 km. I used to check my engine oil from the small glass however could not infer that coolant was mixing with engine oil since the oil seemed like used engine oil (a slight golden color). I went to SVC and following was done in every visit.
1. First Visit - They changed my radiator. I could see a portion which was wet always hence i had my doubts on radiator. SVC took advantage of this situation and changed my radiator and made me pay for it without any diagnosis. They did not even check if coolant is mixing with engine oil.
I went for a ride for around 400 kms and again the coolant was again at min and decided to visit SVC again.
2. Second Visit - Mechanic told me that there was some issue with pressure cap due to dirt trapped. He has a device to check the pressure and inferred that the pressure was low and he has corrected that and now the issue should be fixed.
I went for a 400 km ride again and issue remains the same.
3. Before my third visit i made a complaint to KTM. Third Visit - This time I was taken up seriously. They checked the engine oil. Found traces of coolant. They replaced my water pump seals and gave back my bike.
As usual I took out my bike for a test ride and inferred that issue remains as it is.
4. Fourth Visit - I went to the SVC and gave my bike. They said they will have to check the head gasket and said that it will take some time. I left my bike in SVC. While they were working on my bike i thought let me do a uninformed visit to SVC. The next thing that I see my opened up engine. I was very angry since they told me that issue is only with head gasket and I see not just the head opened but engine below the head also opened up. On further inquiry they told me that they inspected head gasket and found it to be fine. The picture which I have posted has a marked area through which coolant flows through the side walls of engine. There is a liquid sealant which separates the coolant and engine block. And that sealant was not pasted properly by Robots in Factory was the explanation given to me by everyone including Karnataka ASM. I got my bike back after 4 days of work in SVC.
I went for a long ride after this. Around 700 km this time and looks stable now. What I got along with the fix was an additional tick tick sound which I am suspecting due to valve clearance issue. A shim adjustment / replacement will resolve this according to my knowledge hence not really worried now. Will take my bike to SVC to get my shim adjusted. But the actual coolant issue is fixed finallyyyyy.
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Take it to SVC and drain the engine oil to confirm. My friend who went to svc they checked the clutch casing. Opened the clutch casing and once they opened it they could see visual trace of coolant !Originally posted by S.Raj View PostIs there any definite method of ascertaining whether the coolant has mixed with oil since visual inspection indicates the colour of oil as normal. I have also noticed significant drop in the coolant level after having ridden the bike for about 500 kms post the first service. Just want to make sure whether there is actually a coolant leak in the engine or there is some other issue. Don't want to go for the last option before being absolutely sure..Hero Honda Karizma -> RE Thunderbird 350 -> Duke 390 (current bike)
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The easiest way is by probably removing the oil filter and checking. It'll definitely show traces of coolant incase its leaking.Originally posted by S.Raj View PostIs there any definite method of ascertaining whether the coolant has mixed with oil since visual inspection indicates the colour of oil as normal. I have also noticed significant drop in the coolant level after having ridden the bike for about 500 kms post the first service. Just want to make sure whether there is actually a coolant leak in the engine or there is some other issue. Don't want to go for the last option before being absolutely sure..
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