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  • Re: 2017 Duke 390 Owners Reviews and Experiences

    Originally posted by kau8552 View Post
    Hi Guys,

    this is my first post on Xbhp. I purchased my D390 in July 2017 and have to say it's an amazing bike considering i barely used to like the old gen 390 (no offence there). I have clocked close to 3200 kms till date and faced a few minor issues with regards to vibrations and HLU unit vibrating (which was replaced under warranty). However, i've two major concerns to write this post.
    1. Firstly, i love touring on the bike so this seemed like a good option at the price point. Windblast is definitely an issue as you can easily cruise at 120kmph. I need experts suggestion or anyone who has tried installing a visor and a good suggestion towards the same. I did stumble across one post where AS200 visor was installed, would like to know how its working after installing it. Request your kind suggestions and inputs.
    2. Secondly, though the brakes given on the D390 are absolutely maniac, i dont know if i'm the first person experiencing this. During the first 1000kms they seemed totally brilliant. Post that the bite seems very less and have to put a considerable effort to slow the monster. I visited the Mekhri Circle SVC twice and they opened and cleaned the pads and bled the system. But was of no use. Hence i raised a complaint and they reacted swiftly within a few hours. I dropped my bike for service as it was due and they attended the issue at the same time. With me not getting satisfied result with the same cleaning and system bleeding, they agreed to replace the pads under warranty. Post which the brakes seemed like new again. I rode with the new pads for close to 500-600 kms, and i'm back to the square one. And unfortunately i'm facing the same issue on the rear brakes as well. Which seemed to work perfectly alright and provided great feedback and bite. also the brakes seem to heat up quite a bit with small rides as well. Badly need some advice as to what can be the issue and how can i go about rectifying the brakes issue as it ruins my confidence.
    The old models did have some options like the FZ's windshield and quite some aftermarket items too. SahyadriMoto, these guys have a gamut of touring accessories widespread across a broad spectrum of Indian motorcycles.

    More information on this video, windscreen from Sahyadri



    Sahyadri Moto
    Address: Unit No. 609, 5 Acre Kothari Warehouse,,
    Tikujini Wadi Rd, Off Ghodbunder Rd,, Manpada, Thane West, Thane,
    Maharashtra 400607

    Rear brakes do tend to be poorer bite compared to the front. If you find your rotors heating up, it's time to inspect the rear caliper, a stuck piston or improperly aligned wheel will glaze on the pads, heat up the rotor and cause accelerated wear of the pads and the rotor. Though normally all rotors heat up during and after a ride, due to the friction in brake pads themselves and with the constant use of the brakes, which isn't an issue per se.

    Cheers!
    VJ
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    • Re: 2017 Duke 390 Owners Reviews and Experiences

      Originally posted by kau8552 View Post
      Secondly, though the brakes given on the D390 are absolutely maniac, i dont know if i'm the first person experiencing this. During the first 1000kms they seemed totally brilliant. Post that the bite seems very less and have to put a considerable effort to slow the monster. I visited the Mekhri Circle SVC twice and they opened and cleaned the pads and bled the system. But was of no use. Hence i raised a complaint and they reacted swiftly within a few hours. I dropped my bike for service as it was due and they attended the issue at the same time. With me not getting satisfied result with the same cleaning and system bleeding, they agreed to replace the pads under warranty. Post which the brakes seemed like new again. I rode with the new pads for close to 500-600 kms, and i'm back to the square one. And unfortunately i'm facing the same issue on the rear brakes as well. Which seemed to work perfectly alright and provided great feedback and bite. also the brakes seem to heat up quite a bit with small rides as well. Badly need some advice as to what can be the issue and how can i go about rectifying the brakes issue as it ruins my confidence.

      the rotor will heat up and it's normal, braking works based on friction and friction generates heat.. so yes, that's normal.
      after bleeding did they top up the fluid ? I would say top up the fluid if required.. then pump the lever a few times/keep it pressed for a minute or so.
      next go ahead and clean the rotors with some soapy water(like dish wash vim) and a scotch brite pad(green one)
      then rub the brake pads down with sandpaper and put them back in.
      for the rear brakes, in addition what you could do is to ask them to grease the caliper (locally called 'caliper greasing' i.e. clean and apply some grease on the caliper pin) the rear is a floating caliper which slides to engage the brakes and if it isn't moving freely you'd facing braking issues. i had this done when the bike was around a year old. << this step might actually improve the rear braking feel/performance.
      the rear brakes usually get better after a couple 1000km i.e. once the pads wear out more.. at-least that's what i've noticed on the dukes. initially they feel 'wooden' lacking much bite requiring one to stomp on them.. but over a few 1000km the bite improves.

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      • Re: 2017 Duke 390 Owners Reviews and Experiences

        Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post
        The old models did have some options like the FZ's windshield and quite some aftermarket items too. SahyadriMoto, these guys have a gamut of touring accessories widespread across a broad spectrum of Indian motorcycles.

        More information on this video, windscreen from Sahyadri



        Sahyadri Moto
        Address: Unit No. 609, 5 Acre Kothari Warehouse,,
        Tikujini Wadi Rd, Off Ghodbunder Rd,, Manpada, Thane West, Thane,
        Maharashtra 400607

        Rear brakes do tend to be poorer bite compared to the front. If you find your rotors heating up, it's time to inspect the rear caliper, a stuck piston or improperly aligned wheel will glaze on the pads, heat up the rotor and cause accelerated wear of the pads and the rotor. Though normally all rotors heat up during and after a ride, due to the friction in brake pads themselves and with the constant use of the brakes, which isn't an issue per se.

        Cheers!
        VJ
        Thanks a lot bro. Did take a look at the Sahyadri motors Visor. But it looks very bulk and takes the looks away from the bike. Will keep looking if i can get some better option. Also i'm not as concerned about the rear brakes as i believe they are not supposed to be as great as the front ones on any naked/superbikes. But the front brakes are a major concern. as even after replacing the pads it seems to have bounced back. Also does the free play and adjustable levers have anything to do with the way the brakes perform?

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        Originally posted by s1d View Post
        the rotor will heat up and it's normal, braking works based on friction and friction generates heat.. so yes, that's normal.
        after bleeding did they top up the fluid ? I would say top up the fluid if required.. then pump the lever a few times/keep it pressed for a minute or so.
        next go ahead and clean the rotors with some soapy water(like dish wash vim) and a scotch brite pad(green one)
        then rub the brake pads down with sandpaper and put them back in.
        for the rear brakes, in addition what you could do is to ask them to grease the caliper (locally called 'caliper greasing' i.e. clean and apply some grease on the caliper pin) the rear is a floating caliper which slides to engage the brakes and if it isn't moving freely you'd facing braking issues. i had this done when the bike was around a year old. << this step might actually improve the rear braking feel/performance.
        the rear brakes usually get better after a couple 1000km i.e. once the pads wear out more.. at-least that's what i've noticed on the dukes. initially they feel 'wooden' lacking much bite requiring one to stomp on them.. but over a few 1000km the bite improves.

        Thanks S1d for the response. I will check it once again if the fluid is topped up or not. Also the brakes dont seem to work until the lever is pulled more than halfway. so may the bleeding isn't done right. The rear brakes seemed to work absolutely good until now at about 3000 kms they seem to be losing bite. The SVC also told me that it's because of the ABS, which is not convincing. I would want to try switching the ABS off an see if it helps. Also i got brake cleaner to clean the pads but havent really helped.

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        • Re: 2017 Duke 390 Owners Reviews and Experiences

          Today on switching on the bike, the TFT display did not switch on but everything else came up. Even after switching on the engine the screen was just blank. This is new to me. Has anyone faced this issue? I could capture the same in my phone.

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          • Re: 2017 Duke 390 Owners Reviews and Experiences

            Originally posted by nikhn View Post
            Today on switching on the bike, the TFT display did not switch on but everything else came up. Even after switching on the engine the screen was just blank. This is new to me. Has anyone faced this issue? I could capture the same in my phone.

            https://youtu.be/pdXljXZI2GE
            Have faced this issue twice while the bike was moving. I just restarted and moved ahead. So far unable to identify the root cause by me as well as SVC folks. Do check your version of TFT software and get it updated in SVC if not done already.
            Hero Honda Karizma -> RE Thunderbird 350 -> Duke 390 (current bike)

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            • Re: 2017 Duke 390 Owners Reviews and Experiences

              Now our bikes also start hanging until we update software. Until now, this headache was limited to our PC and phones.

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              • Re: 2017 Duke 390 Owners Reviews and Experiences

                Originally posted by vinodpakath View Post
                I gave my bike to SVC again to check on the additional noise that is coming up. Shim adjustment did not help. Hence they are further checking the issue. Its been almost 5 working days today and SVC hasn't been able to eliminate the noise. They are working on bike based on trial and error method. First they changed the shims. Tested the bike. Then cam lobes and then valves. Now they say they are changing piston rings.

                KTM your quality issues day by day is just getting worse. Nothing would have broke if things were right in the first place in this case coolant loss. Trying not to get frustrated and having a lot of patience to get things resolved is what we need with KTMs. I am hoping bike will be fine one day. Waiting for that day

                Update on this coolant loss issue after a really long time and after 3000 kms - So SVC was able to fix the noise finally after changing a lot of parts. Parts changed were - Shims, Head Assembly, valves inspected, piston ring and obviously things like gasket and pasting. When asked SVC about reason how this could have been damaged in such a short span they did not have an answer. I assume that it is due to service unable to identify coolant leaking into engine oil earlier and since bike was running with mixture of oil and coolant, parts could have been damaged. Or the only other reason would be SVC messed up while fixing back the head. Anyway, long story short the major major coolant loss issue is finally fixed and the bikes sounds normal as well. I went on a long ride during December last week and added 2500 km to my ODO. Bike just performed flawless. I took my bike to don't know what all places. Bike saw smooth tarmac, bad roads, Sand, Offroad. Bike did not drop a sweat and took me back home safely. Once again fell in love with this lady 390 :P . I took my bike to sand and bike showed errors in TFT - ECU Failure and ABS Failure. However, i am sure this is due to unexpected surface that bike gave such errors. I have made a short video of my ride. Do watch and share the feedback.

                Last edited by vinodpakath; 01-10-2018, 12:24 PM.
                Hero Honda Karizma -> RE Thunderbird 350 -> Duke 390 (current bike)

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                • 1st ride this year

                  So far i had issue with tft. It was during monsoon. After riding in the rain my tft started to live it's owl life. It (i mean electronics) started to switch on high beam every 5 seconds. + in the beginning it started to show turn indicator signal, but actual indicator was off. After sometime tft progressed and started to really switch on turn indicator on one side. I do not remember now which one. So, tft is not waterproof. I was worry about electronic – what will happen if it will not let to start bike or ride.

                  This is my this year 1st ride. Good test for my horse:

                  They told four wheels were better then two.
                  So, I bought another motorcycle!

                  alienbiker.peepletree.in

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                  • White D390 is back

                    Just went to book D390 the other day. I was curious about limited edition D390(white) which came out when bike was first launched and whether I can still get it. Manager says he can arrange one for me. I initial felt something fishy about it. I told him I will stick to orange one as I would like to select bike from lot. Next day he calls me to tell KTM has just released white colour scheme. Went to KTM website to check and there it was, they have indeed launched White colour for 2017 Duke 390.

                    Here is a screenshot from ktm.com
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                    PS: I am going to be first buyer. yay!
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                    • Re: 1st ride this year

                      Originally posted by Aigars View Post
                      So far i had issue with tft. It was during monsoon. After riding in the rain my tft started to live it's owl life. It (i mean electronics) started to switch on high beam every 5 seconds. + in the beginning it started to show turn indicator signal, but actual indicator was off. After sometime tft progressed and started to really switch on turn indicator on one side. I do not remember now which one. So, tft is not waterproof. I was worry about electronic – what will happen if it will not let to start bike or ride.

                      This is my this year 1st ride. Good test for my horse:
                      TFT won't cause starting problem with the bike. A fellow member of ours did face the same issue, wherein the TFT was totally blank yet the motorcycle cranked without a glitch. It's rumored though the newer 2018 Duke's have minor improvements, software updates, especially the TFT console and a few tid bits added along. As long as the battery isn't drained by high draw applications such as headlight, TFT console etc, and as long as the ignition is off, your battery wouldn't drain per se.

                      Cheers!
                      VJ
                      Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
                      The girl said, 'NO!'


                      And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


                      THE END

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                      • Re: 1st ride this year

                        Originally posted by Aigars View Post
                        So far i had issue with tft. It was during monsoon. After riding in the rain my tft started to live it's owl life. It (i mean electronics) started to switch on high beam every 5 seconds. + in the beginning it started to show turn indicator signal, but actual indicator was off. After sometime tft progressed and started to really switch on turn indicator on one side. I do not remember now which one. So, tft is not waterproof. I was worry about electronic – what will happen if it will not let to start bike or ride.
                        this is due to moisture in the switchgear.. i had a similar issue after being stuck in a traffic jam during heavy rains on my d200 a year or so ago.
                        the solution is to blow compressed air in to the switchgear, spray in some wd 40 and again repeat it. otherwise, disassemble the switchgear on the handlebar and clean and put it back.
                        the first time the mechanic removed the switchgear, cleaned it and put it back since the compressed air wasn't available at the workshop. hardly took 10 minutes to do it.
                        the second time it happened (due a pressure waterwash) blew some compressed air into the switch gear, followed by a spray of carb cleaner and finally a dash of wd40.

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                        • Duke 390 2018 models

                          Hi,

                          I came to know from somewhere that 2018 duke 390 models are coming with some tweaks..like :
                          1. Updated software.
                          2. Additional plate to prevent heat to rider legs.
                          3. New radiator fan.

                          Can someone please confirm this?

                          Regards,
                          Jisnu

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                          • Re: Duke 390 2018 models

                            Originally posted by jdev16 View Post
                            Hi,

                            I came to know from somewhere that 2018 duke 390 models are coming with some tweaks..like :
                            1. Updated software.
                            2. Additional plate to prevent heat to rider legs.
                            3. New radiator fan.

                            Can someone please confirm this?

                            Regards,
                            Jisnu
                            And what about users who bought the bike at 2017?
                            I would like to have these updates also...

                            It is obvious that there will be more updates since there are still issues with the screen and My Ride.

                            About the plate though, I don't think this is going to happen. The major problem with the heat is when the fan turns on. They will have to add a plate at the side of the radiator, this doesn't seem good looking to me.

                            The fan doesn't have a problem itself. There is only a case to change it if they think it is small. The thermostat that controls the fan i don't think that is in the fan itself, so they maybe need to change the settings so they will turn on the fan more time to drop the heat at lower levels, so the fan will turn on again in such a short time. But this doesn't seem to work i think. A bike is a heat machine, it is obvious that it heats up in city riding.
                            I do not have such an issue because i use the bike in open road every day and not in the city. So the fan turns on only while i reach my garage and it stays stopped for few seconds till i get the garage remote from my pocket
                            So if you thing that here in Greece we have around 10 C this time of year, and that i ride to my way home, around 30 Km with speeds 120-150km (the fan will never turn on in this situation) and then for 2-3Km till my garage (this is 5 min top) i go with speeds 20-40Km (sometimes it turns on, based also on the temp of the day) and when i reach my garage the fan goes on always, i am pretty sure that this will happen even if the change the fan. The only way to overcome it is to redesign the engine and the cooling system

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                            I've reached 3000+ Km and i have to share this.

                            The brakes are fine, they have saved me numerous times, in heavy braking situations. they feel loose while you don't press the brake with much force, but they do a pretty good job when you need heavy breaking.
                            This is what brakes should do. Keep a smooth feel on light breaking situations and show their strength in heavy braking situations.

                            Now about the oil pressure light. If you remember i had the issue when the bike turned off (unexpectedly, like in a fast clutch release or by using the kill engine switch) the oil pressure light was stayed on even if you started the engine again. The light was on till you give gas. I replaced the sensor and i didn't saw the same problem for some time (let's say a week). The truth is that it is still there, now that the bike doesn't turn off in situations like that i come across this much less and i' m pretty sure this isn't a problem. Keep in mind you will see the light on as long as you don't give gas. If you give some, the light goes off.

                            There are still some issues with the screen and my ride. Let's say that you connect your phone to the bike, listen to some music, turn off the bike and go home. There you will make some calls or answer some. When you connect the phone to the bike the next morning, you will see on the screen all the calls to appear the one after another. This is definitely a glitch.

                            Another issue is that you may face a screen restart while you listen to music and riding, even after the restart the screen will still be connected to the phone and you will be able to control the music from the pad, but the restart itself is glitch also.

                            Finally, the clock that shows the time on the screen, i don't know why but it is the worst clock ever. I haven't seen a clock to add more than 10 minutes in a period of less than 3 months.

                            I hope KTM will fix these and of course add a functionality where you can see google maps on the screen. I think this is the most crucial of all.
                            I would suggest to contact KTM with this request in the current model. This will be the only way to make them do it.
                            Last edited by slink21; 01-11-2018, 04:09 PM.

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                            • Re: Duke 390 2018 models

                              Originally posted by jdev16 View Post
                              Hi,

                              I came to know from somewhere that 2018 duke 390 models are coming with some tweaks..like :
                              1. Updated software.
                              2. Additional plate to prevent heat to rider legs.
                              3. New radiator fan.
                              Your news source is RushLane? No one trusts them. Dont worry.
                              Software update is something, which is common to all bikes.
                              The radiator fan is same, if you read their article. It says that the fan rotates faster to keep the bike cool. Its done by the software, so the software update is the only new thing.
                              Did anyone notice the additional plate? where is it?

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                              • Re: Duke 390 2018 models

                                Originally posted by jdev16 View Post
                                Hi,

                                I came to know from somewhere that 2018 duke 390 models are coming with some tweaks..like :
                                1. Updated software.
                                2. Additional plate to prevent heat to rider legs.
                                3. New radiator fan.

                                Can someone please confirm this?

                                Regards,
                                Jisnu
                                Checked new white D390 which was displayed at showroom. Cosmetically it is exactly same has usual 2017 model. Couldn't locate plate you are talking about.
                                If radiator fan was improved, KTM would have advertised it.
                                Last edited by rathores; 01-11-2018, 11:04 PM.

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