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  • Originally posted by julianpaul View Post
    Wtf! I thought the Q was newer than that. 15000!!!
    I changed it to Q at 10000kms, used the bike till 26000 then sold the bike and bought the RTR.
    My current TVS tyres are as good as new, so i'm thinking to use them more then i'll switch to MRF.

    The FIERO too had that pathetic "shrichakra" tyres both front and rear and they sucked atleast two light years more than the present crop of TVS tyres.

    @SWAGAT:

    Nice find.
    The Magician"

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    • Originally posted by chicane1879 View Post
      Guys, Check this out!!
      Looks Nice...

      But i was expecting lot more then these circular wheelies..
      "I hate people moving fast....so I overtake them.."

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      • [QUOTE=chicane1879;436760]Guys, Check this out!!

        expected more ((-_-))



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        • Issues!

          The bike has clocked close to 1900kms in 50 days. The bike till now had been great. However, off late it has been showing some problems.
          1. Electric-start won't work.
          This started after I gave a wash last Sunday and didn't use for the next 36 hours!(But I started the bike with a self-start soon after the wash and revved it to 6000rpm before shutting it off). The headlights, indicators, horn, display in the console are all fine!
          2. At times I feel as if the petrol being cut/blocked when on the move(when in 2500-3100rpm range). Even if I wring the throttle, there is no response, leave alone the Racing Throttle Response!! The bike even got off in the middle of the road this evening!
          Nevertheless I am in LOVE with my Apache RTR 180!
          Last edited by Makky; 06-03-2010, 11:29 PM.

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          • Originally posted by Makky View Post
            Nevertheless I am in LOVE with my Apache RTR 180!
            LOL! Now i know what they mean by love is blind! Nothing personal man, it's kinda ironic that i should say that too, i'm stuck on someone i can't get over even though it's long over...

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            • Originally posted by Makky View Post
              The bike has clocked close to 1900kms in 50 days. The bike till now had been great. However, off late it has been showing some problems.
              2. At times I feel as if the petrol being cut/blocked when on the move(when in 2500-3100rpm range). Even if I wring the throttle, there is no response, leave alone the Racing Throttle Response!! The bike even got off in the middle of the road this evening!
              Nevertheless I am in LOVE with my Apache RTR 180!

              even i get that feeling... i did some research of my own n found out that most of the other Apaches have the same problem... n about the starter problem i think u should take it to svc personnel....



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              • Originally posted by julianpaul View Post
                LOL! Now i know what they mean by love is blind! Nothing personal man, it's kinda ironic that i should say that too, i'm stuck on someone i can't get over even though it's long over...
                That 'someone' is biotic or abiotic??
                Now answer to my issues mentioned earlier!!!

                @DP... Did you say most Apaches?? Anybody else experiencing the same in the forum?
                Last edited by Makky; 06-04-2010, 09:04 AM.

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                • Originally posted by Makky View Post
                  The bike has clocked close to 1900kms in 50 days. The bike till now had been great. However, off late it has been showing some problems.
                  1. Electric-start won't work.
                  This started after I gave a wash last Sunday and didn't use for the next 36 hours!(But I started the bike with a self-start soon after the wash and revved it to 6000rpm before shutting it off). The headlights, indicators, horn, display in the console are all fine!
                  2. At times I feel as if the petrol being cut/blocked when on the move(when in 2500-3100rpm range). Even if I wring the throttle, there is no response, leave alone the Racing Throttle Response!! The bike even got off in the middle of the road this evening!
                  Nevertheless I am in LOVE with my Apache RTR 180!

                  Simple Solution to the above mentioned problems:

                  1. Open the main wire that goes to the self (the one directly from the battery) and rub it with sandpaper and replace it back.
                  I guarentee you, you wont face the problem then.

                  2. open the reservior/sump below the fuel cock, and clean it, then get your slow/low/small jet cleaned, and you'll get back that RTR.

                  Originally posted by julianpaul View Post
                  i'm stuck on someone i can't get over even though it's long over...
                  Ahmmmmm!!!!!!
                  Last edited by rennycornelius; 06-04-2010, 12:01 PM.
                  The Magician"

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                  • Originally posted by rennycornelius View Post
                    Simple Solution to the above mentioned problems:

                    1. Open the main wire that goes to the self (the one directly from the battery) and rub it with sandpaper and replace it back.
                    I guarentee you, you wont face the problem then.

                    2. open the reservior below the fuel cock, and clean it, then get your slow/low/small jet cleaned, and you'll get back that RTR.
                    Renny to the rescue! Thanks mate!!

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                    • Originally posted by Makky View Post
                      The bike has clocked close to 1900kms in 50 days. The bike till now had been great. However, off late it has been showing some problems.
                      1. Electric-start won't work.
                      This started after I gave a wash last Sunday and didn't use for the next 36 hours!(But I started the bike with a self-start soon after the wash and revved it to 6000rpm before shutting it off). The headlights, indicators, horn, display in the console are all fine!
                      2. At times I feel as if the petrol being cut/blocked when on the move(when in 2500-3100rpm range). Even if I wring the throttle, there is no response, leave alone the Racing Throttle Response!! The bike even got off in the middle of the road this evening!
                      Nevertheless I am in LOVE with my Apache RTR 180!
                      Well avoid revving the bike while in neutral. The one-way clutch gives up because of this as told by a TVS personnel.Don't know what's the connection between giving throttle and the clutch but this is what i was told.

                      And cleaning the carb will take care of the hiccup issue.

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                      • Originally posted by chicane1879 View Post
                        Well avoid revving the bike while in neutral. The one-way clutch gives up because of this as told by a TVS personnel.
                        Now that's BS.
                        I love TVS guys for their immense knowledge.

                        I remember i was having a talk with the "head" mech at the SC, when i went with my FIERO for it's first serv and he told me the CV carbs comes without floats and the vaccum inside them regulates the flow of it.

                        I saluted him for his knowledge and wondered who awarded him the "HEAD" tag mech there..
                        The Magician"

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                        • Originally posted by rennycornelius View Post
                          Now that's BS.
                          I love TVS guys for their immense knowledge.

                          I remember i was having a talk with the "head" mech at the SC, when i went with my FIERO for it's first serv and he told me the CV carbs comes without floats and the vaccum inside them regulates the flow of it.

                          I saluted him for his knowledge and wondered who awarded him the "HEAD" tag mech there..
                          Dude he is far ahead of being just a mechanic of any sorts. He is an engineer!!

                          Ok, i dug deeper and deeper about the one-way clutch failures and indeed my friend was right.After clarification with him and through various websites here is what i could understand about the real causes of this issue.

                          The problem can be attributed to the battery and charging system. When the battery voltage drops as the engine is spun by the starter, the sudden voltage drop can confuse the CDI which controls the coil and send a premature spark to the plug. This in turn gives the effect of advanced timing and a slight kick back occurs, This kickback can put strain on the one way sprag clutch and cause failure in this component. The spark delay unit will cut out the spark momentarily on start up. Thus allowing the engine to get spinning and overcoming the voltage drop problem and sending a spark when the load has become lighter on the starter.Also in many cases a low-charged battery can damage the one-way clutch.

                          The Sprag clutch and starter issues are related and mostly results from backfire/ignition issues. Which is why it is mostly advised that KS be used for a cold start, when there is more chance of a kickback.

                          Note: One of the prime causes for the gears and/or the sprag to break is the engine backfiring/premature ignition.So in a way the CDi might be the culprit here which fails in sensing the correct timing during the compression stroke.So my friend advising not to over-rev the bike while using the starter motor makes sense!!

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                          • I don't know of the above & my bike has done only 1500 kms.but the gap (revvs) between 2nd & 3rd gear is huge.

                            What i mean is the 2nd seems inadequate & the 3rd overtly abundant.

                            i constantly feel this should have been a 6 gear bike.

                            Almost all the time in city conditions the bike just stalls in 3rd gear.

                            can anyone please update on the gearing ratio of the 180 or do i need to get anything addressed at the svc.
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                            • @all - pls excuse me for replying late. i was a little busy.

                              let me clear things here. i had bought rtr180 around diwali last year. got d delivery 2days before diwali from innovative tvs, bhandup (mumbai). had rhs pulling, front disk noise along with rear disk squeaking, front end noise (was prolly cone-set or fork oil issue) & rear suspension 'thud" noise. i informed the sales executive the day i took delivery after riding it all the way back home & was advised to bring the vehicle to the service center the next day. that day, they were shutting early & were going to remain closed for next three coz of diwali. sope the bike was with me for 4 days (@chicane). the fifth day i submitted the bike at their workshop & was asked to pick it up the next day. four days went by, the problems stated weren't being solved. i had to continuously follow up & check for the status. after being told that the things have been rectified, i would reach the workshop only to find the otherwise. this happened for 4 days with got me boiling & the thing which really blew my lid off was when i was told by the senior mechanic that i had dropped my bike!!!.
                              as my Mum has studied law & my Dads' friend is a consumer activist, i mailed the firm (tvs) & the dealer to drag them to consumer court & hence got full refund. (@haxor)

                              but now, i have booked my bike yesterday with ashwini tvs, thane(w) , & will be getting it in white on 9th .
                              guys, please guide me with what to get checked before taking the delivery (as it was partially my mistake the last time).

                              @chicane - why wouldn't abs be a retro-fit??

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